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Jordan

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Choice 1 is unbiblical and it is fantasy. Why would anyone was a fairy tale version of the Word of God?Choice 2 is completely biblical and makes complete sence.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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Dear superjag are you sure Choice 2 is completely biblical?Are we forgetting something here, that it wasre-creation that we are talking about in fromGen 1:2b onwards. Why are we avoiding whatGod had or would have created for Lucifer andexisted until his fall(flood?)? If it didnt exist why does the bible make referenceof it? Are we to shut our eyes to some facts and just"carnival" only what we want to believe?All unanswered will stay as such, until all can behonest to oneself and his brethren. Be Blessed Always.
 

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Are we forgetting something here, that it wasre-creation that we are talking about in fromGen 1:2b onwards. Why are we avoiding whatGod had or would have created for Lucifer andexisted until his fall(flood?)? If it didnt exist why does the bible make referenceof it? Are we to shut our eyes to some facts and just"carnival" only what we want to believe?Be Blessed Always.
Please explain what you mean JIP. "Why are we avoiding what God had or would have created for Lucifer and existed until his fall(flood?)? If it didnt exist why does the bible make reference of it?" I don't understand........Whirlwind
 

Christina

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Dear superjag are you sure Choice 2 is completely biblical?Are we forgetting something here, that it wasre-creation that we are talking about in fromGen 1:2b onwards. Why are we avoiding whatGod had or would have created for Lucifer andexisted until his fall(flood?)? If it didnt exist why does the bible make referenceof it? Are we to shut our eyes to some facts and just"carnival" only what we want to believe?All unanswered will stay as such, until all can behonest to oneself and his brethren. Be Blessed Always.
JIp I think you are talking about the first earth age differnt subject see link http://www.rightdivision.com/html/overview_of_the_ages.htmlGod ended the first earth age this is the second age if you want to discuss this start another thread as to not confuse
 

Jordan

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Dear superjag are you sure Choice 2 is completely biblical?Are we forgetting something here, that it wasre-creation that we are talking about in fromGen 1:2b onwards. Why are we avoiding whatGod had or would have created for Lucifer andexisted until his fall(flood?)? If it didnt exist why does the bible make referenceof it? Are we to shut our eyes to some facts and just"carnival" only what we want to believe?All unanswered will stay as such, until all can behonest to oneself and his brethren. Be Blessed Always.
Ah yes, of course they are three Earth Ages. But we are talking about the second Earth Age. But there are those who existed before Adam & Eve. That's all it matters.JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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You didn't succeed....sweeten up!
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Heres the bottom line to this threadchoice 1God created an earth full of all plants and animals and then created man commanded them to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earththen he rested after he was done he realized there was no man to tend the soil (farmer)So puts Adam and Eve in it now what they had been doing while he was resting we aren't told but they were not following his command of being fruitful and multiplyingSo now he locks them up in the garden to learn farming (you can assume)Where they sin with the help of Satan, so now they are kicked out of the gardenNow they have children Cain and Able then Cain kills ableAnd God punishes Cain by kicking him out of Eden Cain begs that this punishment is unbearable he is afraid some unknown persons will kill him of course there is only his family on earth. So who he is afraid of is a mysteryGod hears his cries and puts a mark on him so anyone seeing him will know not to kill himof course there is no one he could not know sense only his family is on earth.Next we hear Cain takes a wife Well sense no one else is on earth its has to be his sister we are never told aboutSo now we have Incest a sin so God started mankind on the sin of incest. There is no argument incest wasnot a sin first was the word the word says incest was a sin. Second God is the same yesterday today and tomorrowIf incest was not a sin yet then neither should murder have been and we know it was. The law had not been given to Moses yetbut if murder was still a sin so was incest God does not change.So the fact is God forced sin upon man by his very command of go forth and multiply and only putting to people on earthSuddenly Cain is building a city to name after his first born must have been pretty small sense only Cain his wife and his son lived thereWell to be fair I guess some of his other mysterious unmentioned siblings could have moved there.all sounds pretty confusing to me but hey that's what men teach the word says.__________________Choice 2We say God created the earth full of plants and animals then created man male and female commanded them be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth (all the races were created)then he rested. God having a very organized plan for providing man a savior needed a man for this seed to come through a man to till the soil(symbolic for plant the seed of Christ) So he made a protected place a Garden and made Adam and Eve and put them in itAdam was a special man for he was not to mate with others nor subdue the earth he was was for the very reason to bring the seedof Christ into the World.Adam and Eve sin,with help of Satan so are now kicked out of the gardenNow they have children Cain and Able,Cain kills Able and God punishes Cain by kicking him out of Eden Cain begs that this punishment is unbearable he is afraid some of the sixth day people might kill him God hears his cries and puts a mark on him so anyone seeing him will know not to kill himNext we hear Cain goes to the land of Nod and takes a wife (from the sixth day people)Cain and his wife have a son and Cain builds a city for the people and names it after his son.other children of Adam married these sixth day people and there was no incest that the mankind was based onthese sixth day people were doing as God commanded them multiplying and replenishing the earthWe hear only little things of Cain after this because the Bible is not about him its about Christ and the people involved in his storyAll went along until the day Satan and his fallen angels came and started mating with the daughters of menthe whole earth became filled with sin and God brought the floodOnly Noahs line was pure had not been defiled by sin to save the seed line of ChristGod flooded the earth save for two of everything with the breath of life in itthat includes some of Cains descendants and at least two of every raceBut Noah and his family were the only ones left out of all Adam and Eves descendants that had a pure bloodline for the seed of ChristWhy did God save some sinners same reason he saves any of us. God did not send the flood to punish the sin he sent it to save the bloodline of Christit was the offspring of the fallen angels he was interested in killing not the average sinner.Now again why are we not told of these others on the Ark? The story is not about them its about ChristHow does this story change any ones faith ? How does it go against God or his word?Why would one rather believe God caused incest to be committed when its not said he did this??Are you not guilty of accusing God of breaking his own Word without any proof???Now you can belief what ever you like but none of your opinions nor men's Words will ever convince meGod was different yesterday then he is today or tomorrow I will never belief God created the seed of Christ myLord and Savior upon sin (incest) I will never accuse my God of causing his children to sinas God can not nor would never do so.So follow whatever doctrine suits you if its man its you that pays the price but don't ask me to see reason in yourdecisionOur way is not only biblical it is in the chacter of God answers all the question as God said he wouldand frankly has more biblical support then unmentioned accusation of incest.__________________Ok thats it this thread has been reduced to non constuctive babble its is summed up above make your own choice everyone has had their say and then some
 
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