God made evil ( proof)

[Eternally Grateful]

God made humans.

Humans are evil.

When god creates a human he's creating an evil thing because that human is evil.

God makes evil humans.

That debunks the bible when it says god doesn't do evil.

The second humans are born they r born sinning. When u r sinning u r evil itself. When u r born u r evil by sinning. When u r born god created you.

The bible says humans never do anything good at any point in their lives. That means even at the moments of being created they are evil.

1. God made humans, he made them perfect.
2. God gave humans free will. at the risk of humans using their free will to rebel against him, which is evil
3. God did not create evil. Humans did, because they rejected God.

 

[Difflugia]

Iniquity came from Lucifer, who fell as Satan.
When Adam obeyed him, the nature of the devil, that is the sin nature, became Adam's.

This situation, became the fall of us all.

JESUS, the 2nd Adam, came to recover us from this Fall and restore us Spiritually as born again, = "One with God"... as 1st Adam had it before he "fell">.

God created evil, by declaring that which was not good, as evil.

 

[Pearl]

God created evil, by declaring that which was not good, as evil.

Now that is just clutching at straws and means absolutely nothing. Declaring something is evil is NOT the same as creating evil.

 

[Pearl]

If evil was created it was by Lucifer an angel aka Satan who rebelled against God and was thrown out of the heavenly realms taking with him his followers, no longer angels but demons. And Jesus says he saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven.

People forget that Satan was once a beautiful angel who has the ability to draw people to himself and deceive them.

 

[Difflugia]

Declaring something is evil is NOT the same as creating evil.

So when God declared it is good, that is not the same as creating it?

 

[Behold]

God created evil, by declaring that which was not good, as evil.

If you write the definition of Pornography, that is not the same as you creating it.

If you write the definition of Murder, that is not the same as you creating it.

If you lust in your heart as you look upon a woman, that is the same as you committing the deed.


#1 & #2 are not you causing it, its you defining it.

#3 is you creating it in your head and that is the same as you doing it.

God's Holiness defines what isn't.. and that isn't the same as God creating the unholiness.

 

[Pearl]

So when God declared it is good, that is not the same as creating it?

What God created WAS good and declaring it was good wasn't the same as creating it.

I think you may need to find a fellowship that doesn't lead you astray by teaching these falsehoods.

 

[Difflugia]

If you write the definition of Pornography, that is not the same as you creating it.

If you write the definition of Murder, that is not the same as you creating it.

If you lust in your heart as you look upon a woman, that is the same as you committing the deed.


#1 & #2 are not you causing it, its you defining it.

#3 is you creating it in your head and that is the same as you doing it.

God's Holiness defines what isn't.. and that isn't the same as God creating the unholiness.

In the beginning everything that God created He declared it to be good.
Then in the process of time, God declared something that happened to be evil.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME EVIL WAS CREATED BY GOD DECLARING IT TO BE EVIL.
BEFORE GOD DECLARED IT TO BE EVIL THERE WAS NO EVIL. GOD CREATED EVIL.

 

[Difflugia]

What God created WAS good and declaring it was good wasn't the same as creating it.

I think you may need to find a fellowship that doesn't lead you astray by teaching these falsehoods.

Lean not to your own understand. You of all people should heed that wisdom.

 

[lforrest]

Say goodbye to the banned false profit again, spirits and spoof.

 

[Behold]

In the beginning everything that God created He declared it to be good.

Before Lucifer fell from Heaven, and that was before Adam was created........."iniquity was found in Him".

1.) Pride
2.) Murder
3.) Liar

He was "cast out" and ended up down here, but had no authority, yet.

When Adam rebelled, the dominion he had over the earth, over creation, was transferred to Satan, who became "the god of this world".

When Adam made the choice to rebel, He lost spiritual union with God.... Satan received His dominion, and Adam's spiritually became this..

"You are of YOUR Father, the Devil".

This is the '" Adamic" nature, or the "fallen nature'.

Why is called "fallen"? Its because that is symbolic of what Happened to the Devil.

His "fall" was described by Jesus as :

KJ21
And He said unto them, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
ASV
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan fallen as lightning from heaven.
AMP
He said to them, “I watched Satan fall from heaven like [a flash of] lightning.
AMPC
And He said to them, I saw Satan falling like a lightning [flash] from heaven.
BRG
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
CSB
He said to them, “I watched Satan fall from heaven like lightning.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Human perversity comes from humans. The devil didn't make you do it.

Then we were made with that flaw in us....

Of course with mom's taping down their little boys penises (as there was that in-depth discussion you surly remember for another forum a few years back) could go a long way to encourage the gay lifestyle and even the sex change wannabes....

But true evil... the kind that will allow you to take a knife and slit someones throat.... that comes from humans?

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Say goodbye to the banned false profit again, spirits and spoof.

?????

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Before Lucifer fell from Heaven, and that was before Adam was created........."iniquity was found in Him".

1.) Pride
2.) Murder
3.) Liar

He was "cast out" and ended up down here, but had no authority, yet.

When Adam rebelled, the dominion he had over the earth, over creation, was transferred to Satan, who became "the god of this world".

When Adam made the choice to rebel, He lost spiritual union with God.... Satan received His dominion, and Adam's spiritually became this..

"You are of YOUR Father, the Devil".

This is the '" Adamic" nature, or the "fallen nature'.

Why is called "fallen"? Its because that is symbolic of what Happened to the Devil.

His "fall" was described by Jesus as :

KJ21
And He said unto them, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
ASV
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan fallen as lightning from heaven.
AMP
He said to them, “I watched Satan fall from heaven like [a flash of] lightning.
AMPC
And He said to them, I saw Satan falling like a lightning [flash] from heaven.
BRG
And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
CSB
He said to them, “I watched Satan fall from heaven like lightning.

And was this not because Lucifer was created with free will or did God plant that in him?

Id free will evil?

 

[lforrest]

?????

If you are still breathing air on God's green earth this time next year
I will never ever come back here on this forum and post.
That is how sure I am that you are soon to die and be cast into hell.

Yours truly,
the Lord's anointed
in the Seven Spirits of God

 

[Behold]

And was this not because Lucifer was created with free will or did God plant that in him?

Id free will evil?

Lucifer's iniquity was found in Him.


If man, if Lucifer, if the Reader here didnt have free will, then God can't hold you accountable for YOUR CHOICES.

He Does.

A.) You have free will., and so does the Devil

 

[The Learner]

God made humans.

Humans are evil.

When god creates a human he's creating an evil thing because that human is evil.

God makes evil humans.

That debunks the bible when it says god doesn't do evil.

The second humans are born they r born sinning. When u r sinning u r evil itself. When u r born u r evil by sinning. When u r born god created you.

The bible says humans never do anything good at any point in their lives. That means even at the moments of being created they are evil.

It is clear God made people good. It was our disobedance that screwed everything up.

 

[The Learner]

Isaiah​

Chapter 45​

I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Hebrew was my first language. These translations are closer to the Hebrew.

Isaiah 45:7

Easy-to-Read Version

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7 I made the light and the darkness.
I bring peace, and I cause trouble.
I, the Lord, do all these things.

Isaiah 45:7

New International Version

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7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.

AMPC
I form the light and create darkness, I make peace [national well-being] and I create [physical] evil (calamity); I am the Lord, Who does all these things.

CEB
I form light and create darkness, make prosperity and create doom; I am the Lord, who does all these things.

EXB
I make the light and create the darkness. I bring ·peace [prosperity; wholeness; C Hebrew shalom], and I ·cause [create] ·troubles [disaster; calamity]. I, the Lord, do all these things.

 

[ScottA]

God made humans.

Humans are evil.

When god creates a human he's creating an evil thing because that human is evil.

God makes evil humans.

That debunks the bible when it says god doesn't do evil.

The second humans are born they r born sinning. When u r sinning u r evil itself. When u r born u r evil by sinning. When u r born god created you.

The bible says humans never do anything good at any point in their lives. That means even at the moments of being created they are evil.

The Bible doesn't say that.

It says that God himself is not evil.

But you are also off on your idea of God making evil humans. It is humans that had babies and made evil humans. God made 1 good human and created light and darkness. Humans (not God), then leaned into the darkness, got pregnant, and had evil babies.

You're not doing so well with the facts. You probably shouldn't be badmouthing what you don't actually know anything about.

 

[Wick Stick]

But true evil... the kind that will allow you to take a knife and slit someones throat.... that comes from humans?

Yes. As a species, we seem to be very fond of murder.