God made evil ( proof)

[darkspeed6]

God made humans.

Humans are evil.

When god creates a human he's creating an evil thing because that human is evil.

God makes evil humans.

That debunks the bible when it says god doesn't do evil.

The second humans are born they r born sinning. When u r sinning u r evil itself. When u r born u r evil by sinning. When u r born god created you.

The bible says humans never do anything good at any point in their lives. That means even at the moments of being created they are evil.

 

[Matthias]

“God saw all that he had made - and it was very good!”

(Genesis 1:31, NET)

 

[lforrest]

God made humans.

Humans are evil.

When god creates a human he's creating an evil thing because that human is evil.

God makes evil humans.

That debunks the bible when it says god doesn't do evil.

The second humans are born they r born sinning. When u r sinning u r evil itself. When u r born u r evil by sinning. When u r born god created you.

The bible says humans never do anything good at any point in their lives. That means even at the moments of being created they are evil.

Do you actually believe humans are evil? If so I would give thanks to God for bestowing you with wisdom.

Now to the other, does that mean God created evil? No, man became evil due to disobedience. And the initial state of man was good.

Disobedience to God came by obeying another, who was Satan. It is safe to say God also created the angels with free will and the ability to disobey. Did God set Lucifer up for failure? Who knows, but I don't really care if he did.

 

[Difflugia]

Now to the other, does that mean God created evil? No

Isaiah
Chapter 45​

I form the light, and create darkness:
I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

 

[Behold]

God made humans.

God made many things.. as "all of Creation" Proves a CREATOR exists.

You can't have creation without a creator..

So, God created Man on earth, after He created Lucifer, in Heaven.

Lucifer is a "anointed Cherub",..... who while in Heaven, sinned in His Heart against God... and "iniquity was found in Him".

A.) = Right THERE is were "evil" began, as that is the SIN NATURE, = original.

Lucifer, the first DEVIL.

And Lucifer was cast out of heaven, and down here he, as SATAN... deceived Eve..... and Adam willingly rebelled.

At that point of that Rebellion, in Adam's heart, = he bowed his knee to Satan, and that sin nature of Satan became Adam's nature.

This is the "Adamic" nature and its the fall of Adam, and from this 1st Adam... all of use enter into the same sin nature very early on.
This is why we LIKE TO SIN, and ENJOY IT, and WANT MORE..
YET, once we meet Jesus, and are born again... we are given a "divine nature" a "born again Spirit", and from this, we are no longer spiritually connected to THE DEVIL>,.
This is why all the born again, after they die, will meet = FATHER GOD..... and not Eternal Judge.

Now ..

See that EVIL nature that started in the devil and become Adam's nature because Adam REBELLED ?????

God didn't cause that to happen.

 

[JohnDB]

God made many things.. as "all of Creation" Proves a CREATOR exists.

You can't have creation without a creator..

So, God created Man on earth, after He created Lucifer, in Heaven.

Lucifer is a "anointed Cherub",..... who while in Heaven, sinned in His Heart against God... and "iniquity was found in Him".

A.) = Right THERE is were "evil" began, as that is the SIN NATURE, = original.

Lucifer, the first DEVIL.

And Lucifer was cast out of heaven, and down here he, as SATAN... deceived Eve..... and Adam willingly rebelled.

At that point of that Rebellion, in Adam's heart, = he bowed his knee to Satan, and that sin nature of Satan became Adam's nature.

This is the "Adamic" nature and its the fall of Adam, and from this 1st Adam... all of use enter into the same sin nature very early on.
This is why we LIKE TO SIN, and ENJOY IT, and WANT MORE..
YET, once we meet Jesus, and are born again... we are given a "divine nature" a "born again Spirit", and from this, we are no longer spiritually connected to THE DEVIL>,.
This is why all the born again, after they die, will meet = FATHER GOD..... and not Eternal Judge.

Now ..

See that EVIL nature that started in the devil and become Adam's nature because Adam REBELLED ?????

God didn't cause that to happen.

You're not right.

 

[Behold]

You're not right.

Evil started with Lucifer.
Your sin nature came to you from Adam's sin.

"By one man's sin".. 1st Adam, is why you became a sinner serving sin and its why your body is going to stop. (death).

And through 2 Adam we all may be forgiven our sin, and restored to eternal spiritual union with God.

This restoration, this "One with God" = spiritual union, that Christ came to provide as the WAY that we might receive it.......

= Once we do, we are restored into the same spiritual union with God, that 1st Adam Had before He "fell".

A.) Welcome to the Cross of Christ.. = God will meet you there.

 

[Wick Stick]

Evil is an adjective that describes our opinion or judgment of things.

It's not a noun. You can't go to the grocer and buy a pound of evil. Neither is it possible that God or anyone else creates evil the way you've contended here.

We do things. Our actions may be adjudicated as evil. But nobody creates evil.

 

[Pearl]

God made humans.

Humans are evil.

When god creates a human he's creating an evil thing because that human is evil.

God makes evil humans.

That debunks the bible when it says god doesn't do evil.

The second humans are born they r born sinning. When u r sinning u r evil itself. When u r born u r evil by sinning. When u r born god created you.

The bible says humans never do anything good at any point in their lives. That means even at the moments of being created they are evil.

You have a very twisted way of looking at how evil entered the world.

God made two perfect humans - Adam and Eve. He gave them the freedom of the garden with one command not to eat the fruit of a certain tree. They disobeyed him. God didn't make them disobey they did that all on their own.

And I'm sorry to say it but you also seem to have the wrong idea of sin. Sin is not necessarily evil. Sin is the fact of being separated from God.

And we can remedy this by accepting Jesus as our Lord and Saviour and being spiritually re-born into God's family where we are no longer called sinners but saints.

 

[Behold]

But nobody creates evil.

2 Days ago... in Russia.. = 4 gunmen , at night, took assault rifles and went into a concert hall and begin shooting.
So, they killed many.

More then : 130 Russians were shot to death.

Now, the worst part of that, is not the killing.

1.) The worst part of that is that many were sent to hell by a bullet....and had they lived another month or year, another 10 yrs, they may have trusted in Christ and gone to heaven when they died, later.
Those Russian who were not born again, were sent to hell by the Shooters.

2.) So, you also have the plan to kill., and that is to plan cold blooded murder.
3.) You have the killing (murder) loss of innocent lives.
4.) You have the trauma that is now on their Family and Friends.

See ALL that?
That is evil, and it was created by the Devil, as "The Devil was a murderer from the Beginning" and he just used more people to murder more people.

That's Evil for all the eyes to see.

There is no GOOD found in that, because Evil is the opposite of good, exactly as the Nature of the Devil is the exact opposite of God's Righteousness.


God never caused that evil.

Those KILLERS< chose to commit that Evil.

And Christians need to Pray for America, as Joe Biden's open borders are letting in the same type EVIL.
And they are going to do the same....... as it's their Islamic Religion's purpose., = if possible

God protect Americans from what is being allowed to try to harm them.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Evil is an adjective that describes our opinion or judgment of things.

It's not a noun. You can't go to the grocer and buy a pound of evil. Neither is it possible that God or anyone else creates evil the way you've contended here.

We do things. Our actions may be adjudicated as evil. But nobody creates evil.

Alright, then where does evil come from.

Eve brought it to light because she , of her own free will, being coerced into eating the "pretty" fruit made it happen, but evil had to have had an origin.

Lucifer certainly had evil thoughts long before being cast to earth.

Is it as simple as saying that is the outcome of free will?

 

[Difflugia]

Alright, then where does evil come from.

From God, He created it.

 

[Difflugia]

Is it as simple as saying that is the outcome of free will?

There is no such thing as free will. That is a myth. That people like you believe.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

There is no such thing as free will. That is a myth. That people like you believe.

Well, I can assure you that predestination is a myth also.

Except, you wont believe that because Calvin backs you up when you say "From God, He created it."

It was Calvin who stated, in his prophetic capacity, "while the others (the reprobate) would be “barred from access to” salvation and sentenced to “eternal death."

For those who don't understand ... that is the evil ones... that God evidently created before the foundations of the worlds.

Kind of knocks the God is Love idea around a bit doesn't it.

 

[Difflugia]

Well, I can assure you that predestination is a myth also.

Except, you wont believe that because Calvin backs you up when you say "From God, He created it."

It was Calvin who stated, in his prophetic capacity, "while the others (the reprobate) would be “barred from access to” salvation and sentenced to “eternal death."

For those who don't understand ... that is the evil ones... that God evidently created before the foundations of the worlds.

Kind of knocks the God is Love idea around a bit doesn't it.

Everything is determined by that to which comes before it, except God.
God determines that which was, that which is, and that which will be.
God determines the past, present and future.
I do not know this Calvin.
The God is love idea, is far underestimated and far overrated
by them who's thought and ways are not God's thoughts and ways.

 

[Wick Stick]

Alright, then where does evil come from.

Where does invisible come from? Where does curved come from? How about shiny?

If you said that none of those questions make any sense, then you're correct. Likewise, "where does evil come from" is a non-sequitur. Evil is an adjective, not a noun.

I suppose you can use it as a noun, but then it falls on you to define what you mean by it. Do you mean human perversity? If so, I think you have your answer. Are you referring to the effects of entropy that we can observe in the world? Again, you have your answer.

Jarrod

 

[Behold]

From God, He created it.

Iniquity came from Lucifer, who fell as Satan.
When Adam obeyed him, the nature of the devil, that is the sin nature, became Adam's.

This situation, became the fall of us all.

JESUS, the 2nd Adam, came to recover us from this Fall and restore us Spiritually as born again, = "One with God"... as 1st Adam had it before he "fell">.

 

[Rella ~ I am a woman]

Where does invisible come from? Where does curved come from? How about shiny?

If you said that none of those questions make any sense, then you're correct. Likewise, "where does evil come from" is a non-sequitur. Evil is an adjective, not a noun.

I suppose you can use it as a noun, but then it falls on you to define what you mean by it. Do you mean human perversity? If so, I think you have your answer. Are you referring to the effects of entropy that we can observe in the world? Again, you have your answer.

Jarrod

Then as an adjective perhaps I can rephrase things to ask, What makes certain people do what is perceived as evil? How is it that certain people are so motivated? IOW, if it comes from no where, how does it happen?

 

[Wick Stick]

Then as an adjective perhaps I can rephrase things to ask, What makes certain people do what is perceived as evil? How is it that certain people are so motivated? IOW, if it comes from no where, how does it happen?

Human perversity comes from humans. The devil didn't make you do it.

 

[Behold]

Human perversity comes from humans. The devil didn't make you do it.

Evil comes from the Devil, originally.