God Made Jesus, born of the Flesh and Spirit, whom was the Word of God.

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Did you know? God made Jesus. His Word was in the beginning with him. Jesus was made sin, and he was sinless.

2 Corinthians 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
1 John 3:5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.
John 1:18 No one has ever seen God; the only begotten God who is on the bosom of the Father—He has expounded [Him].
John 14: Jesus says to him, "Am I with you so long a time, and you have not known Me, Philip? The one having seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

Still, the Word of God must have indwelled Jesus. Many people came and worshipped him as a King. In the days of King you would prostrate yourself before the King. However even in those days, those of faith would have continued to look and pray to Yahavah, Jesus taught this same thing. I love the Lord Yeshua, and am thankful for what he has done for the whole world, and what God had done through the Lord Yeshua by sustaining his Word in and through him, though Jesus had a choice at any time to disobey. He was held back by the Holy Spirit of Yahavah, and risen after dying on the cross by the Holy Spirit of Yahavah, rising his Word back from the dead. In the end what you believe about this things are totally between you and yourself. Whether you seek to be right with others or not. What does mean something is loving Yahavah first, by and through the strength of Jesus, who was made, and worshiping the Father in heaven in having fellowship with him and his Son, loving and continuing to be faithful.

John 6:28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
1 John 3:23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.


Even people claiming faith doesn’t mean anything if a person doesn’t love. Paul says these things in 1 Corinthians 13, and that’s what’s gonna count by the end of life… did one have faith and did they love.

“Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬-‭3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Hebrews 2:19 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

Numbers 23:19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

John 1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
All things came from Yahavah, and all things came by and through the Word of God, whom was born of flesh, and spirit, being made a human being, given the name Jesus.
Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
Even Jesus spoke concerning of worshiping the LORD thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”
John 4:22 You Samaritans know very little about the one you worship, while we Jews know all about him, for salvation comes through the Jews. 23 But the time is coming—indeed it’s here now—when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way. 24 For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

This is the dangers of not seeking out God for answers, he will help you if you need it.

James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you.

1 John 1:3 We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ.


All the best for those who seek for truth in their lives! All blessing to anyone who disagrees, and may God help you understand.
 

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God made Jesus
You really need to study English literature, to learn how wo4ds are used.
John 1 states Jesus was not made.
The verse you quote describe a process not a creation event.
Example you could be made a Russian citizen, without having to be born a citizen.
In the same way Jesus became a man, he was not made at his conception, also as a sinless perfect man, on carvery he was made to be the sin bearer. GOD put All our sin, guilt and shame on to him.
 

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Did you know? God made Jesus.


Yes, God created Jesus, via the Holy Spirit, inside a Virgin's Womb.

This really happened.

Its a Miracle......

His Word was in the beginning with him.

That is John 1.

"The Word, WAS God".

"Jesus is the WORD... made flesh".. (inside a Virgin's womb).

Jesus was made sin, and he was sinless.

"God hath made Jesus........to be sin for us....."

There was no sin found IN HIM........and our sins were placed ON Him... and that is why His BODY and Blood were sacrificed for our sin.

Still, the Word of God must have indwelled Jesus.

Jesus Himself is the "Word made Flesh"....as "God manifest in the Flesh"...

Notice that when Jesus was water baptized, God spoke and said......."IN HIM... I AM.... well pleased".

Notice.....where the "I AM".. is located? As "I AM" is the Name that God gave to Moses, when Moses asked God "what is your name"..

Even people claiming faith doesn’t mean anything if a person doesn’t love.

Christians are to walk in love, but we are not to love the world or the things in it.....
In other words.. never allow yourself to feel more affection for what this world offers, then you feel LOVE for God and Jesus.

There is Agape' love and there is secular love and in both cases... we are to give all our love to God and Christ , above all else.

Also, showing Love, as a Christian, does not mean "blind tolerance" towards, wrong doing....including dealing with people who say they are a "christian" and then teach all sorts of man made demonic theologies.......such as "preterism" or "calvinism'..

See, we are not to LOVE, as in accept.. those who teach doctrines of devils.

We can read Titus 3:10, as Paul explains that when a person is lost in heresy, and they are unrecoverable, then you put them outside the church door, and lock it.
Why?
Because if you let these heretics in, they will subvert the members. They will infect them with the same spiritual sickness that has them infected with whatever "doctrine of devils' has taken over their mind, that they want to SHARE with other Believers, to deceive them.

Se, we are not called to "love"... this one, in the sense of accepting them.
We can love them as a Brethren, but never as a part of the Local membership.

Jesus refers to this twisted one as a "dark light"......in other words, they have light... they were enlightened but now that Good light has become deception, and that is their inner light.....its Dark... .spiritually, and theologically.
 

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Yes, God created Jesus, via the Holy Spirit, inside a Virgin's Womb.

This really happened.

Its a Miracle......



That is John 1.

"The Word, WAS God".

"Jesus is the WORD... made flesh".. (inside a Virgin's womb).



"God hath made Jesus........to be sin for us....."

There was no sin found IN HIM........and our sins were placed ON Him... and that is why His BODY and Blood were sacrificed for our sin.



Jesus Himself is the "Word made Flesh"....as "God manifest in the Flesh"...

Notice that when Jesus was water baptized, God spoke and said......."IN HIM... I AM.... well pleased".

Notice.....where the "I AM".. is located? As "I AM" is the Name that God gave to Moses, when Moses asked God "what is your name"..



Christians are to walk in love, but we are not to love the world or the things in it.....
In other words.. never allow yourself to feel more affection for what this world offers, then you feel LOVE for God and Jesus.

There is Agape' love and there is secular love and in both cases... we are to give all our love to God and Christ , above all else.

Also, showing Love, as a Christian, does not mean "blind tolerance" towards, wrong doing....including dealing with people who say they are a "christian" and then teach all sorts of man made demonic theologies.......such as "preterism" or "calvinism'..

See, we are not to LOVE, as in accept.. those who teach doctrines of devils.

We can read Titus 3:10, as Paul explains that when a person is lost in heresy, and they are unrecoverable, then you put them outside the church door, and lock it.
Why?
Because if you let these heretics in, they will subvert the members. They will infect them with the same spiritual sickness that has them infected with whatever "doctrine of devils' has taken over their mind, that they want to SHARE with other Believers, to deceive them.

Se, we are not called to "love"... this one, in the sense of accepting them.
We can love them as a Brethren, but never as a part of the Local membership.

Jesus refers to this twisted one as a "dark light"......in other words, they have light... they were enlightened but now that Good light has become deception, and that is their inner light.....its Dark... .spiritually, and theologically.
To be separate from the world is to be set apart and not act as the world acts, to refrain from immoral acts that the world engages in, and to love our neighbor as ourselves, to be surely grounded in the Truth of God's Word and obedient to His Commandments.
Jesus said a new commandment He gives us. 1- to Love God and 2- to love our neighbors as ourselves. In obeying these Commandments we have fulfilled all the Jewish laws of Moses.
 

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A passage showing he was made to be as sin to be under judgment from God being then used to say Jesus was made is mistaken. When conceived by the Holy Spirit he was called the Son of God, see Luke 1:31-32, as the incarnation from God. Logos the Word with God who is God is eternal, without any beginning. God has always been this way, and never changes.
 

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You really need to study English literature, to learn how wo4ds are used.
John 1 states Jesus was not made.
Sure it does. It absolutely says Jesus was made. It says he was made flesh. In other places in John, it refers to Jesus' nature as a son, which is a created, made being.
 
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God made Jesus a lot of things

The Word was MADE Flesh (John 1:14)
God sent His Son, MADE of a Woman (Gal 4:4)
Jesus Christ, MADE of the Seed of David (Romans 1:3
God MADE him a little lower than the Angels(Psalm 8:5, Hebrews 2:9)
Then, Being MADE so much better than the angels (Heb 1:4)
MADE of the seed of Abraham (Hebrews 2:9) for the suffering of death
And whom God MADE both Lord and Christ (Hebrews 5:5)
Wherefore in all things it behoved him to BE MADE like unto his brethren, that HE MIGHT BE a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God (Heb 2:17)
Whom God glorified and MADE High priest (Hebrews 5:5) Who glorified NOT himself TO BE MADE high priest
Who of God is also MADE unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption (1 Cr 1:30)
Whom God MADE the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. (Hebrews 2:10)
Who was MADE perfect, and BECAME the author of eternal salvation (Hebrews 5:9)
Who would also MAKE His soul an offering for sin (Isaiah 53:10)
Jesus Christ was MADE sin for us (2 Cr 5:21)
The stone which the builders disallowed, the same IS MADE the head of the corner (1 Peter 2:7)
 
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Sure it does. It absolutely says Jesus was made. It says he was made flesh. In other places in John, it refers to Jesus' nature as a son, which is a created, made being.
are confusing the eternal nature of Jesus as God the Son who was not made, with the incarnation of Jesus, as a man. Jesus the man was made.
 

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are confusing the eternal nature of Jesus as God the Son
You are confused. Jesus died. Proving he is neither eternal nor any kind of God. Nothing in Scripture says Jesus has an eternal nature or is God.

Do you know ‘the son of God’ is not an equivalent expression to ‘God the son.’ Notice the missing pesky OF?
 
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You are confused. Jesus died. Proving he is neither eternal nor any kind of God. Nothing in Scripture says Jesus has an eternal nature or is God.

Do you know ‘the son of God’ is not an equivalent expression to ‘God the son.’ Notice the missing pesky OF?
His body was dead, not His spirit. Hiw could He say to the thief next to Him, "TODAY, you will be with Me in Paradise"?
How could He claim to resurrection Himself from the dead?
How could He have ALL AUTHORITY in heaven en and on earth if He was not omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent - the exclusive powers of God?
How could He take away the sins of the world _ trillions _ for all time _ if He was not God?
How could He be the Light of men, the spiritual force that transforms a man into a new creature?
How could He be the "Truth"? Truth means reality. So are we to think that before he was born there was no truth or just truth he was not part of? Truth means all knowledge, whatever is real, physically and spiritually ... eternally.
How could He be "the Life", which is implying life itself, physical and spiritual?
You must answer all thise questions for yourself
 
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How could He claim to resurrection Himself from the dead?
He didn’t make the claim that he actually raised himself from the dead. If he made such a claim, it would contradict the many times Scripture explicitly tells us that God - in his Unitarian nature - raised Jesus from the dead.
 

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He didn’t make the claim that he actually raised himself from the dead. If he made such a claim, it would contradict the many times Scripture explicitly tells us that God - in his Unitarian nature - raised Jesus from the dead.
Yes He did.
18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.”John 10:18
Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” John 2:19
 

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Yes He did.
18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.”John 10:18
Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” John 2:19
That sounds like the establishment of the heavenly Jerusalem. Laying down the mosaic law, and establishing Christ law and administration.
 

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Yes He did.
18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.”John 10:18
Jesus answered and said to them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” John 2:19
Right, he will do, not did do! You cannot grasp how this does not refute what I said. Speaking figuratively of a temple, he says he will raise it up. This is NOT the same as him speaking literally, that he actually in the past did raise himself. Therefore, my statement stands correct.
 

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Jesus is not a created being nowhere in the bible and in Christianity does it teach that unless your a Jehovah Witness.

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome
14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

He came to take on flesh and a soul and raise that soul to heaven to save humanity who has been condemned.He came to do the will of the Father he was not created.This is a fallen world and you are in a fallen state its why he came the enemy's of salvation Satan and the fallen angels put us in this position its right there in Genesis.Its what this faith is all about.
 
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One of the first places I started when I was 26 years old was reading the Gospels as they are laid out. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. There many people that will tell people start in John. Why? I believe its good to start just as it is laid out. While people may differ that is okay. However, Jesus was born of a woman. He had flesh just like us. However, he also had access to the Father, and the holy spirit. He was known as Immanuel "God with us." However his flesh simply put, was not God. That body died on the cross.


What is interesting is that Yahavah didn't let his Begotten sons body after resurrection see corruption, and that body Yeshua had lived in ascended to the sky. Apparently to go and sit on the right hand of God, until... a time would come where all things would be placed underneath the feet of Jesus. Jesus would give all authority and everything back to his Father and be subject to him, and also move from that place at the right hand, to the sitting on the Fathers throne.

There is something about that, and it's interesting at least to me.
 

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No human soul could enter heaven until Jesus raised his soul to heaven he is the first born and we all find salvation through him nowhere else.
 

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If human beings are created. Then Jesus coming through the womb, makes him a created being. Don’t get me wrong God sent his Word to become flesh, but that means it had to be created in flesh and therefore named Jesus afterward.

I’m not someone who believes that Jesus was a person with God in the beginning but the Word of God.

So idk why people get so brittle and bent out of shape of just seeing these things as they are.