Good News for 2023: Our Universe and Our Fate

[Rapture and End Times]

People have always looked up to the night sky with questions. Some of these questions are relatively new, due to our recent, clearer scientific understanding of the way things work. But, the Holy Bible has the best answers!

Good News for 2023: Our Universe and Our Fate

 

[Davy]

People have always looked up to the night sky with questions. Some of these questions are relatively new, due to our recent, clearer scientific understanding of the way things work. But, the Holy Bible has the best answers!

Good News for 2023: Our Universe and Our Fate

Except in this case brethren in Christ, what that link presents is BAD NEWS! because it is pushing a FALSE PRE-TRIBULATIONAL RAPTURE THEORY devised by men's doctrines.

For over 1,800 years, the Christian Church taught a POST-tribulational coming of Lord Jesus Christ to gather His Church.

Only starting in the 1830's in Great Britain by John Nelson Darby did the false Pre-tribulational Rapture Theory begin to be preached in a Christian Church. That doctrine was then later brought to the Americas and made famous through Cyrus Scofield's study Bible, and organizations like the Moody Bible Institute.

It's ultimate advertisement in today's time has been through the Dallas Theological seminary, and books by their authors like Hal Lindsay and books and movies by Tim LaHaye.

That false doctrine devised by certain men is one of the doctrines of Babylon for the end that faithful saints need to come out of, and be wary of.

If you want direct evidence out of Lord Jesus' mouth showing He comes AFTER... the great tribulation (a POST-trib coming), then it's a simple matter of reading the Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27 Scripture in relation to 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17.

 

[Keraz]

For over 1,800 years, the Christian Church taught a POST-tribulational coming of Lord Jesus Christ to gather His Church.

Yes; as scriptures like 2 Thess 4:16-17 confirm. AFTER the glorious Return.
But some 'post trib' people still have the false idea that gathering is to heaven. Impossible and illogical, as after Jesus returns, He will reign on earth and His faithful people will be His priests and co-rulers. Revelation 5:9-10 makes that crystal clear.

 

[Davy]

Yes; as scriptures like 2 Thess 4:16-17 confirm. AFTER the glorious Return.
But some 'post trib' people still have the false idea that gathering is to heaven. Impossible and illogical, as after Jesus returns, He will reign on earth and His faithful people will be His priests and co-rulers. Revelation 5:9-10 makes that crystal clear.

The gathering is to 'heaven'; the difference is that the heavenly dimension is going to be revealed right here on earth. By your thinking, it shows you still do not understand the two dimensions of existence written of in God's Word. God Himself in final is going to live right here on earth, and He is a Spirit. So how is that possible?

Mark 13:26-27
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall He send His angels, and shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
KJV

The Matthew 24:31 version of the above is about the 'asleep' saints Paul said that Jesus will bring with Him when He comes. But the above is about Christ's faithful saints still alive on earth when He comes. The "last trump" change "at the twinkling of an eye", will happen first, the heavenly dimension opened up on earth for all to see, and all changed at an instant to the spiritual type body. It will then be in that "spiritual body" how Jesus will gather His faithful on earth to the asleep saints, and they all then go to Jerusalem with Him. Simple, if one pays attention to the Scripture as written, and believes what it says.

 

[Keraz]

The gathering is to 'heaven'; the difference is that the heavenly dimension is going to be revealed right here on earth. By your thinking, it shows you still do not understand the two dimensions of existence written of in God's Word. God Himself in final is going to live right here on earth, and He is a Spirit. So how is that possible?

Mark 13:26-27
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall He send His angels, and shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
KJV

The Matthew 24:31 version of the above is about the 'asleep' saints Paul said that Jesus will bring with Him when He comes. But the above is about Christ's faithful saints still alive on earth when He comes. The "last trump" change "at the twinkling of an eye", will happen first, the heavenly dimension opened up on earth for all to see, and all changed at an instant to the spiritual type body. It will then be in that "spiritual body" how Jesus will gather His faithful on earth to the asleep saints, and they all then go to Jerusalem with Him. Simple, if one pays attention to the Scripture as written, and believes what it says.

In the Millennium, people will still procreate and die, Isaiah 65:18-25
Only AFTER the Millennium and the final Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15, will anyone receive immortality. THEN the Spiritual realm will be the reality forever. Luke 20:34-36, Revelation 21 to 22

It is illogical, unscriptural and quite impossible to have immortals existing along with mortals.

 

[Tommy Cool]

 

[Davy]

In the Millennium, people will still procreate and die, Isaiah 65:18-25

This is the main verse you're trying to point to there...

Isa 65:20
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
KJV

Those are 'expressions' about longevity, because after Christ's future return all will be in the "spiritual body", including the wicked dead with their "RESURRECTION of damnation".

What you are listening to are old Jewish traditions on that. Likewise in Ezekiel 44 it talks about animal sacrifices and the Zadok priests of Jesus taking wives of virgins. That is not literal either, otherwise you don't believe Jesus' sacrifice on His cross meant anything and that we're still under the old covenant!

Only AFTER the Millennium and the final Judgment, Revelation 20:11-15, will anyone receive immortality. THEN the Spiritual realm will be the reality forever. Luke 20:34-36, Revelation 21 to 22

It is illogical, unscriptural and quite impossible to have immortals existing along with mortals.

The realm of spirit will be manifest on the day of Christ's future return. That is what the "last trump" event does, for ALL still alive on earth...

1 Cor 15:50-54
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
KJV


Isa 25:6-9
6 And in this mountain shall the LORD of hosts make unto all people a feast of fat things, a feast of wines on the lees, of fat things full of marrow, of wines on the lees well refined.
7 And He will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations.
8 He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of His people shall He take away from off all the earth: for the LORD hath spoken it.
9 And it shall be said in that day, "Lo, this is our God; we have waited for Him, and He will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for Him, we will be glad and rejoice in His salvation."
KJV

 

[Keraz]

Those are 'expressions' about longevity, because after Christ's future return all will be in the "spiritual body", including the wicked dead with their "RESURRECTION of damnation".

What you are listening to are old Jewish traditions on that. Likewise in Ezekiel 44 it talks about animal sacrifices and the Zadok priests of Jesus taking wives of virgins. That is not literal either, otherwise you don't believe Jesus' sacrifice on His cross meant anything and that we're still under the old covenant!

Making plain Bible statements to be 'expressions' is wrong and to discount the Prophesies of Ezekiel 40 t0 48, just because you don't like them is actually a denial of God's Word.

Your 1 Corinthians 15:50-56 quote; refers to the GWT Judgment. Proved by how it is only then that death is no more. Rev 21:4
Isaiah 25:6-9 is about the Return and the Millennium time.

 

[Rapture and End Times]

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Great chart! Really brings the truth out.

 

[Benjamin731]

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People have always looked up to the night sky with questions. Some of these questions are relatively new, due to our recent, clearer scientific understanding of the way things work. But, the Holy Bible has the best answers!

Good News for 2023: Our Universe and Our Fate

Beautiful and uplifting message, R+ET.