Every rapture position is new

[Spiritual Israelite]

Bro, he started a thread claiming something as a fact, that he had never researched.

We have seen someone make a claim about what the early church fathers taught before which was proven wrong and he later apologized and admitted that he didn't research the topic first. Now, we are seeing that again. I don't understand why people do that.

 

[The Light]

Don't just post scripture without telling us where you are seeing two harvests (grain harvest and fruit harvest) there. Exegete the text and show us how exactly you are concluding that those texts teach two harvests.

Anyone can just post scripture and make claims about it. That is not enough. You need to show how exactly you are coming to your conclusions.

He has restricted me from using the Old Testament so that makes it a challenge.

I asked him to fix my truck because it would not start and only allowed him to use the car interior pages of the repair manual. He was not up to the challenge.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

He has restricted me from using the Old Testament so that makes it a challenge.

I don't think he is doing that. If you have Old Testament scripture that you think the New Testament scriptures you posted are based on, then you certainly can show that. But, you have to do something to show that the NT authors were intending to reference those OT scriptures.

 

[Jericho]

You made the bold claims in the Op. The burden of proof is therefore with you. So far, you have presented no historic evidence. The first principle of evidence is: he who alleges must approve. So you have the floor.

It seems to me that the burden is on you. If you disagree with something I wrote, then it's up to you to disprove it.

Are you admitting that you just made a claim without being an authority on the topic and without doing much research to confirm it?

Why do I have to be an "authority" on a topic to talk about it? I'd wager none of us here are authorities on anything, yet we still voice our opinions. Even if I were an authority, you still wouldn't accept it.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Why do I have to be an "authority" on a topic to talk about it? I'd wager none of us here are authorities on anything, yet we still voice our opinions. Even if I were an authority, you still wouldn't accept it.

You didn't provide any evidence to back up your claims in the original post. Why should we take you seriously at all when you didn't bother to do that? What was the purpose of your original post? Are you pre-trib? I'm wondering if you're trying to make people think that no one really taught pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib at all until more recent years, which is not true. Pre-trib is the view that only started being taught around 200 years ago. Few, if any, believed in that theory before that.

 

[WPM]

It seems to me that the burden is on you. If you disagree with something I wrote, then it's up to you to disprove it.



Why do I have to be an "authority" on a topic to talk about it? I'd wager none of us here are authorities on anything, yet we still voice our opinions. Even if I were an authority, you still wouldn't accept it.

You started a thread on a lie. You never researched it to see if it was true.

Are you going to admit that? Are you going to repent of that?

Or, is lying fine with you?

 

[WPM]

He has restricted me from using the Old Testament so that makes it a challenge.

I asked him to fix my truck because it would not start and only allowed him to use the car interior pages of the repair manual. He was not up to the challenge.

No, you have produced nothing from the Old Testament or the New Testament to support your claims.

 

[WPM]

We have seen someone make a claim about what the early church fathers taught before which was proven wrong and he later apologized and admitted that he didn't research the topic first. Now, we are seeing that again. I don't understand why people do that.

hey hey

I told you that that is the reason why I started to study the subject in depth, to establish the truth.