Okay, so if a Christian say, stubs their toe and a curse word comes out...veniel? Also, if a person denies doing really horrid stuff to you, and is avoiding you...can't forgive them face to face, nor can we forgive them if they do not own up to what they have done...I'm speaking of "christians".
Yeah, we can forgive without them being present and I have but, I want nothing to do with these people ever again and I sure hope that is not sin!
Yes, those are trespasses. Just forgive them and you are free. Imagine them just being afraid to tell the truth, and not that they don't know the truth. And I've been in the same situation in a Bible study among Christians that believed their past, present and future sins are automatically forgiven as long as they believed in Jesus. I'm a teacher so I didn't keep my mouth shut and tried to share the difference between sins unto death, and sins not unto death, and in front of everyone, the leader yelled at me, that they didn't want to hear what I had to say anymore, that I had said enough. He thought I was condemning them, as many do on here, and teaching a form of sinlessness that was unattainable. What hurt the most was not one person there stopped him to tell him what I really meant. I didn't say a word, but I never went back. You can forgive someone for their ignorance, but it doesn't mean you have to stay around and get punched. Jesus said to brush the dust off your feet and go on your way.
What I teach is not anything I learned in someone else's teaching. I believe it was the original teaching of the apostles, but when the outpouring of the Spirit seemed to dry up during the long dry summer, leaving behind the early rain of the Spirit, and the church became worldly, thinking in more human reasoning, the reasoning of past, present and future sins being forgiven, put the Church into teaching defeatism, instead of victory - we will always sin, so just believe and they are covered so the Father doesn't see them. Anyway, one of the old ladies at the Bible study called me and told me she was getting booklets from a Church in Texas and he taught the same thing I did! She said she didn't understand his teaching any better than she understood mine. LOL Anyway, I sent for them, and sure enough we are alike. He also knew that he was only to teach what the Father taught him no matter how new it seemed to his congregation. He wasn't to teach anything He hadn't taught him directly. We are the same in that command as well. It is called Calvary Outreach Ministries. cochurch.org. All their books are free, or you can order an e-book. I always get the paper booklet, because I read in bed, not in my office. I sure wish I could talk to LeRoy or Keith Surface (brothers) because we could learn from each other. I've learned from them, and I know some things God has taught me that they haven't gotten yet. It was a lonely ride for me until I learned about them.
If I remember correctly from being raised Catholic...mortal sins are like, murder, blasphemy, and other violence towards another person. Are there other examples of Mortal sins?
Yes, they are the moral laws: murder, stealing, perjury, adultery and other sexual sins (homosexuality, bestiality, pedophilia, fornication)
The difference between sins, trans. tress. is what (IMO) need to be explained better.
Oh yes, what about those flitting thoughts that are not always "good" ones and you don't know where they come from cause you would never do or say anything like that thought ?
Those thought are from demons - like all temptation. They are not yours, so don't own them. And don't allow yourself to dwell on them to take action on them and let them become sin. James 1:14-15. James also said to resist the devil and he will flee before you. When I was married and being abused, and I saw a nice man treating his wife with respect, I wouldn't ponder on it, I would shake my head physically real hard - rattle my brains - and walk away and the image would be gone.
Leviticus 5:15 “If a person commits a trespass, and sins
unintentionally..."
That is one form of trespass. Number 15:22 is the beginning verse of a sacrifice for unintentional sins. But down at verse 36 was the end of a passage where someone broke one of the Ten commandments. There was NO sacrifice for it, they killed him. They are examples of sins not unto death, and sins unto death of 1 John 5:16-17.
A trespass/venial sin can also been done intentionally, it is not just unknown to you. But as long as you keep up your forgiving others, they are cleansed. Never allow unforgiveness to form a root of bitterness, or you're in real trouble. That is hate, akin to murder! You'll have to repent and ask Jesus to renew a right spirit within you. Isa. 51:10. That chapter is what I prayed the night I was filled with the Spirit. Wow, what a night! (Isn't that a song???)
Trespasses are also called debts. That doesn't just mean money, though Jesus made analogies using money.
Matthew 5:
21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. 25 Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. 26 Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny.
I take that to mean, if you know you've hurt someone's feelings, go to them and make it right. And if they've hurt you, forgive them. God's ultimate goal is reconciliation, but if that isn't possible, forgive from afar.
I'm really trying to understand it all because, I do NOT WANT to sin, ever.
Thank you for the insight, I do understand better where you are coming from.
God Bless
Good, you're a first!!! I'm like you. I stay away from sin too.