Greater Things Than These - John 14

[DuckieLady]

Why were you asking?

Was something I kept being reminded of in the spirit, which doesn't really mean anything, but it got me thinking about what could be greater. Red sea parting was the only thing I could think of.

But I can't answer the question, "Why does God heal some, and not others?"

1. I'm sorry for your friend. I will pray for her.

2. I wanted to tell you something for encouragement.

My grandmother had tongue, breast cancer, and another. She could not eat except from a tube in her stomach and they replaced a piece of her tongue with a piece of skin from her leg.

They gave her one year to live, but he carried her at least another 17 years.

But her cancer was her testimony and made her strong in the Lord and gave encouragement to a lot of people before and after. Sometimes things are unbearable, but they are not pointless. God uses all things for his good. <3

 

[DuckieLady]

Fluffy, this is a special word of encouragement from the Lord just for you. It is a promise of becoming a great servant unto the Lord doing signs and wonders that confirm who you are in Christ. Be humble with a servant heart unto the Lord.

Here are other verses where the Greek word translated as "greater" is also found: -

John 5:20: - 20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does; and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel.

John 14:12: - 12 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.

John 19:11: - 11 Jesus answered, "You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above. Therefore the one who delivered Me to you has the greater sin."

1 Cor 12:31: - 31 But earnestly desire the best/greater gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.

James 4:6: - 6 But He gives more/greater grace. Therefore He says:

"God resists the proud,
But gives grace to the humble."​

Be truly Blessed in the Lord, Fluffy.

Shalom

Beautiful and still reflecting on it. Thank you :)

 

[Hidden In Him]

Was something I kept being reminded of in the spirit, which doesn't really mean anything, but it got me thinking about what could be greater. Red sea parting was the only thing I could think of.

The power to move in supernatural gifts will characterize the end-time army of God. If you are called to that army, you are still very young, and could indeed move in them some day. You just need to pay the price is all.

 

[TLHKAJ]

What do you think Jesus meant by greater things? "Greater Things than these" has been going through my head for a couple of days now.


John 14:11-14
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

This is something God has been bringing to my remembrance for a good while now. I know at least one close friend who also has been brought to this by the Lord. And I believe @Hidden In Him is correct. I believe that the Lord is bringing His people through many trials in this last hour to prepare an army who can walk in the "greater works" with humility, in His power and for His glory and the furthering of His kingdom.

 

[Lambano]

1. I'm sorry for your friend. I will pray for her.

2. I wanted to tell you something for encouragement….

<3

Thank you, Fluffy. I think she’d appreciate that.

Cool story about your grandmother. My wife is an 18-year breast cancer survivor- and she’ll praise God for it to whoever will listen.

 

[Truman]

This is something God has been bringing to my remembrance for a good while now. I know at least one close friend who also has been brought to this by the Lord. And I believe @Hidden In Him is correct. I believe that the Lord is bringing His people through many trials in this last hour to prepare an army who can walk in the "greater works" with humility, in His power and for His glory and the furthering of His kingdom.

I believe He's got me in boot camp. So I can receive comfort and through me, others can receive comfort! I find this rather comforting... in other words, what she said! Lol

 

[Truman]

Suffering for the benefit of another...where have I heard that before?

 

[DuckieLady]

This is something God has been bringing to my remembrance for a good while now. I know at least one close friend who also has been brought to this by the Lord. And I believe @Hidden In Him is correct. I believe that the Lord is bringing His people through many trials in this last hour to prepare an army who can walk in the "greater works" with humility, in His power and for His glory and the furthering of His kingdom.

If there is anything I have learned from Him it is has to do with learning surrender and trusting Him, which I am still learning, and it helps to think about why Jesus is called "Prince of Peace".

And not sure why I feel like bringing this up but the world's perception of confidence through success and vanity isn't accurate, but it's through knowing Him, having confidence in Him, and contentment. Maybe that doesn't relate but I'm saying it anyway.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Endure .....stay faithful through the trials.

1 Peter 4:12-18
[12]Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
[13]But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
[14]If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
[15]But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
[16]Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
[17]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
[18]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

2 Timothy 2:3-13
[3]Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
[4]No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
[5]And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
[6]The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.
[7]Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
[8]Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
[9]Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
[10]Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
[11]It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
[12]If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13]If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

 

[DuckieLady]

Endure .....stay faithful through the trials.

1 Peter 4:12-18
[12]Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
[13]But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
[14]If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
[15]But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
[16]Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
[17]For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
[18]And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

2 Timothy 2:3-13
[3]Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.
[4]No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.
[5]And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
[6]The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.
[7]Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
[8]Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
[9]Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.
[10]Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
[11]It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
[12]If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13]If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

So good. Thank you. I love that last verse so much.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Trials bring heaviness, but they have a purpose....

11 Peter 1:3-7
[3]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4]To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5]Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
[6]Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
[7]That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:

 

[DuckieLady]

@Lambano You don't have to watch this if you don't want to but I just feel like sharing it with you. It just is good encouragement. And I think @TLHKAJ's verses reminded me of it.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

What do you think Jesus meant by greater things? "Greater Things than these" has been going through my head for a couple of days now.


John 14:11-14
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.

Isn't it true that while Jesus was on Earth he spoke about the kingdom of God mainly to the Jewess nation, while the Apostles and disciples of Jesus Christ spread the message of the kingdom of God to the then known world.

 

[Hidden In Him]

And not sure why I feel like bringing this up but the world's perception of confidence through success and vanity isn't accurate, but it's through knowing Him, having confidence in Him, and contentment. Maybe that doesn't relate but I'm saying it anyway.

Correct. The Biblical phrase was, "Let him who boasts, boast in the Lord." (1 Corinthians 1:31; 2 Corinthians 10:17). There's nothing wrong with being bold in faith, either towards man or God. But our boast has to be in Him, not in our own ability or self-sufficiency.

 

[DuckieLady]

But our boast has to be in Him, not in our own ability or self-sufficiency.

I have tried this "my own ability" thing and it did not work out in my favor. Lol

Thank goodness, I would have never realized the revelation I just had.

 

[amadeus]

@FluffyYellowDuck
A NEW TAKE ON AN OLD DEBATE.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I have tried this "my own ability" thing and it did not work out in my favor. Lol

Thank goodness, I would have never realized the revelation I just had.

I'm pretty much a nothing and a failure left to my own devices. In Christ, however, I've become something of a bad ass, Lol, and unapologetically so.

I suggest you take the latter route at your earliest convenience, and stick with it till the end of your life. As scripture states, "We are more than conquerors, through Christ who strengthens us."

 

[DuckieLady]

I'm pretty much a nothing and a failure left to my own devices. In Christ, however, I've become something of a bad ass, Lol, and unapologetically so.

I suggest you take the latter route at your earliest convenience, and stick with it till the end of your life. As scripture states, "We are more than conquerors, through Christ who strengthens us."

I need to because it had just occured to me that I have not been very good at relying on Him.

So I think I will get some peppermint oil (because I like the smell) and a relaxing cup of turmeric tea and meditate on that for a little bit.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I need to because it had just occured to me that I have not been very good at relying on Him.

So I think I will get some peppermint oil (because I like the smell) and a relaxing cup of turmeric tea and meditate on that for a little bit.

You'd be surprised how important that is to the spiritual life. Whenever I pick up something valuable from the Lord, everything stops. I take time and think on it and remind myself of what I have learned before I resume any study. Otherwise, you just get busy and forget it, and then a year later He reveals it to you again, and at first you're all excited like you've just gotten the greatest revelation... then the thought starts to creep in, "Wait a minute... haven't I learned this already somewhere?..."

 

[Curtis]

Okay, that's a fair criticism. But I have prayed for the Gifts, both for myself and (with a nod to Rita's post above regarding the power of numbers) for the members of my church family. So, when you keep asking and keep not receiving, you conclude it's not God's will and you stop asking to spare yourself the faith-killing disappointment. (I've teed one up here for somebody to quote Matthew 7:7 or James 4:3. Step up to the plate, folks!)

But, caught here between the “Already” and the “Not Yet”, those "parting the Red Sea" (and a nod to Fluffy's second post here) types of manifestations of God's power are notable because they are rare in the extreme. (To say the least!) So also some of the less spectacular works. And the question is still, "Why?"

Don’t know how your church does it, but the scriptures show that a spirit-filled believer lays hands on believers for them to receive the Holy Spirit infilling and get spiritual gifts.

Act 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:

Act 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

Act 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

Act 8:17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.

Act 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,

Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues