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Featured Healty Foods ?

Discussion in 'Christian Health Forum' started by Grams, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. Blueberry

    Blueberry Well-Known Member

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    Hello CoreIssue,

    I was prescribed statins in around 2003. Never took them. Not even the samples meant to hold me over until I could get the script filled. About 6 months later I received an urgent call from the doctor's office to stop taking them and throw the rest away.

    Never said anything about statins, but simply that I cannot link recommendations for reducing sodium to some sort of conspiratorial ploy to sell more drugs.

    Have not studied statins much, but they seem to be the typical symptom reducing affair. Like many other meds, they can reduce the scary numbers, but often never actually reduce the likelihood of events causing reduced health or death. (aka 'false numbers') Good numbers produced from correcting the actual causes would give the better actual outcomes. Many medications do not do that. Many medications merely shutdown the feedback mechanisms that are out of whack due to a problem initiated upstream.

    Like the diabetic who has high blood sugar numbers. They get meds that reduce the numbers and then go back to poor eating habits. Then the conditions worsens again so new more powerful meds. Until things get too much for meds. Some meds can give short term symptom and even condition relief, but that is a grace period in which behavior modifications need to take place. To stop doing what caused the problem in the first place.

    Still fail to see where suggesting reduced sodium intake to some patients sells more statins? Which are for cholesterol. I fail to see how diet modifications such as reduced sodium sell more blood pressure drugs as well? Will reduced sodium sell more drugs of any kind? I thought that "I agree with this basic premise." clarified my position with Big Pharma and studies usually paid for my the people who want a particular result? As always... follow the money

    An otherwise healthy person should be able to have at the salt with few or no complications. But, for me now, excess sodium causes some minor edema. When one sees such cause & effect in their own body then doctors, studies or much of anything do not matter very much. I am from the era of salt tablets. No agenda or axes to grind.

    I am dealing with some kidney issues. I am watching sodium, potassium and the big toughie, phosphorus. I take no drugs. Of any kind. But having waited so long after early signs showed up that if medicine were more accessible, I probably would see what it offers and then research it beyond what a doctor might recommend for myself. Like I did with statins 15 years ago. Likely what drove me to curezone.org back then come to think of it. I will take from big medicine (or anything else not immoral or sinful) what it offers, but never blindly. I've learned to be that way with alternative options too. Which has become somewhat of its own Big Biz these days.

    Regards
     
  2. CoreIssue

    CoreIssue Well-Known Member

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    Sodium is essential to regulate electrolytes. For people like me reducing sodium has some very negative results, as in the nervous system stops functioning properly.

    Same as statins. I stopped taking them because they made me act loopy.

    Remember, a lot of doctors prescribe medicine to meet Federal requirements and protect themselves from legal problems.
     
  3. Blueberry

    Blueberry Well-Known Member

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    No doubt in specific situations particular protocols are in order. In general, people consume far too much sodium from processed foods. I have to be concerned about too much potassium. Which can cause heart function issues. As well as phosphorus. I am uncertain of what is causing what as I am winging it.

    Absolutely doctors follow federal guidelines and those from the AMA who issues their licenses. They have practices to run and in many cases student loans to pay off. Their training is very lacking in nutrition, but focuses on medicine. I just think that they are mostly ignorant and unwilling to risk treatments outside of established guidelines. I see individual doctors as pawns in this thing rather than co-conspirators. Such profit driven policies are established much higher up. Even there, it may be more unbelief in the power of proper diet over man's great scientific solutions.
     
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    They gain having people sicker from restricting salt. So if it's not the BP meds, it's some other treatment. Low salt requires hospitalization for several days so that easily makes up for it.
     
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    Hey liefailrock,
    I hear what you're saying. Can see this happening on occasion due to incompetence or simple ignorance. Just can't see the overall conspiracy thinking that such is done intentionally with any great frequency. Perhaps I am naïve?
     
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    Blueberry Well-Known Member

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    @bbyrd009

    Guess what I do now? I sprinkle flax seed on most of my food.

    I have a teachable spirit. :)

    Mostly I do this mostly for lignan content rather than O3 content. Even for the taste.
     
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    bbyrd009 Groper

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    is that a space-suit? ha!
     
  8. Blueberry

    Blueberry Well-Known Member

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    Sure. Are you asking if I am a 'space cadet'? :)
     
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