Heart Talks on Holiness

[Eternally Grateful]

Luke 8:14-15​

14 The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life’s worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature.
15 But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, retain it, and by persevering produce a crop.

Notice.

Only 1 of the 4 groups produce fruit..

we must ask. why is this...

 

[marks]

if we look in the greek.

Perfected is in the perfect tense - a completed action

Sanctified is in the present tense passive an ongoing action

He hath perfected, Perfect Tense, Active Voice, Jesus performed the action upon us,

Those being sanctified, Present Tense, Passive Voice, the action is being received by us.

Much love!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Was God setting a trap for Adam?

And still Adam sinned

“…Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (1 Timothy 2:14)

 

[marks]

“…Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (1 Timothy 2:14)

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Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

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Much love!

He is giving adam a reason to excuse his sin.. Like he does himself

 

[Michiah-Imla]

He is giving adam a reason to excuse his sin..

Is that what Apostle Paul is doing?

I quoted Paul’s writing…

 

[marks]

Is that what Apostle Paul is doing?

I quoted Paul’s writing…

Personally, I'm wondering what your point was, can you elaborate?

Much love!

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Adam sinned

Adam did not sin.

Eve did.

“…Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (1 Timothy 2:14)

Safe to say that if Eve was never made Adam would not have fallen.

 

[marks]

Adam did not sin.

Genesis 2:16-17 KJV
16) And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
17) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Genesis 3:6 KJV
6) And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Genesis 3:11-12 KJV
11) And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12) And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Romans 5:12-14 KJV
12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13) (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14) Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

God commanded Adam not eat from the tree, and he did eat. By Adam's transgression, sin entered the world.

Are you thinking that disobeying God might not be sin?

Much love!

 

[ChristisGod]

Adam did not sin.

Eve did.

“…Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (1 Timothy 2:14)

Safe to say that if Eve was never made Adam would not have fallen.

And it would be safe to say Adam would be the only human ever created to enjoy God if he were to remain sinless. Procreation would be impossible.


And we would not be having this discussion since we would have never existed .

 

[marks]

And it would be safe to say Adam would be the only human ever created to enjoy God if he were to remain sinless. Procreation would be impossible.

I disagree. To the pure, all things are pure.

Much love!

 

[ChristisGod]

I disagree. To the pure, all things are pure.

Much love!

Disagree with what ?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Romans 5:12-14 KJV
12) Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,

Eve was part of mankind.

 

[Keturah]

Adam did not sin.

Eve did.

“…Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (1 Timothy 2:14)

Safe to say that if Eve was never made Adam would not have fallen.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

@Christophany

You’re 100% correct.

@marks
I should clarify:

Adam’s sin was in ignorance.

Eve’s was willful.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

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That would be an “X” over Paul’s words.

I only quoted him.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

So I claimed someone was trying to give adam a reason to excuse his own sin.

He said I was wrong

then he says Adam DID NOT SIN..

 

[Michiah-Imla]

excuse his own sin.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The denial continues

 

[marks]

@Christophany

You’re 100% correct.

@marks
I should clarify:

Adam’s sin was in ignorance.

Eve’s was willful.

Do you mean the opposite? That Eve's sin was in ignorance, her having been deceived, but Adam's was willful, he not being deceived?

Much love!