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Madad21

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Rocky Wiley said:
I rejoice with your desire to walk with God. But have posted many very clear scriptures on subjects and yet most will not hear. That may be because one needs to see it for themselves.

If you have access to bible on your computer, do word searches to gain info. For example, do a word search on 'gift' and read those scriptures. Then do a word search on 'gifts' (plural) and note the differences.

If you have not downloaded a bible to your computer, you might try 'Sword' it is free and google will give a webpage for download.
Thank you for your kind words, I have study resources thanks for offering.

I am aware of the gifts.

But its one thing for people not to hear, its quite another to hide it from them.

There are people out there feeding the hungry and looking after the poor for Christ, to me their strengths are greater though they may not be well versed in scripture they put themselves out there anyway, because of the incredible strength of their mustard seed faiths.

If we know something we need to make it plain on purpose, Jesus came for the sinners not the righteous.

We must be careful not to confuse our gifts with exclusivity.
 

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Madad21 said:
Thank you for your kind words, I have study resources thanks for offering.

I am aware of the gifts.

But its one thing for people not to hear, its quite another to hide it from them.

There are people out there feeding the hungry and looking after the poor for Christ, to me their strengths are greater though they may not be well versed in scripture they put themselves out there anyway, because of the incredible strength of their mustard seed faiths.

If we know something we need to make it plain on purpose, Jesus came for the sinners not the righteous.

We must be careful not to confuse our gifts with exclusivity.
Gifts are given for the edifying of the church.

Rom_11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom_12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1Co_12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
1Co_12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co_12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co_12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1Co_12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
1Co_12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
1Co_14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
1Co_14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.


The gift (singular) is eternal life

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act_2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act_8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
Act_10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Act_11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
Rom_1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
Rom_5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
Rom_5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
Rom_5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Rom_5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
1Co_1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Co_7:7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
1Co_13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
2Co_1:11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.
2Co_8:4 Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
2Co_9:15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph_3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
Eph_4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
Php_4:17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
1Ti_4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
2Ti_1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
Heb_6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Jas_1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
1Pe_4:10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.

The scriptures are plain, the question is. Do we understand it?

Let me say, we can never do any more than be obedient to God.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive:
 

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Dodo_David said:
wordsponge, you are not communicating clearly in your posts.

He's trolling.

He's already posted that lot in another thread.
 

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Arnie Manitoba said:
All 3 of them , 3 times a day , and 3 extra times on Sunday
All 3 of them , 3 times a day , and 3 extra times on Sunday


If you add it all up it comes out to 666
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I missed you :)

Have a look at what John was allowed to see in heaven.
Worship of TWO.
I have read that people were killed for that and here it is in the Bible
that it happened in heaven.
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[SIZE=10pt]International Worship of the TWO, the Everlasting GOD and his Son.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Rev.5[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt][13] I (John) heard every creature (of the whole creation),[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]in heaven and on the earth,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and under the earth,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and such who are in the sea,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and all of the living ones who are in them saying/ shouting:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Blessing (happiness to BOTH)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and honour (acknowledgement and high regard to BOTH)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and glory (greatness to BOTH)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and power (ruler ship to BOTH; The Son is over the entire creation and the Father above all.)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]to GOD The Most High[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] (# 1) who sits upon the throne[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]and to The Lamb[/SIZE][SIZE=10pt] (# 2), the Mighty God)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]forever and ever (ceaselessly, by Gentiles and Israelites >> by the New Man)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]*
[14
] Then the four (4) beasts said: Amen (= warmly agreed)[/SIZE]

Keep well,

Madad21 said:
Can you please explain your reason for saying this to Arnie
Col.3
[16] Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Dodo_David said:
wordsponge, you are not communicating clearly in your posts.
Hello,

These are the Scriptures that we must deal with.
What I did to get help from above, many will not do.
I want to help BUT what Jesus has to reveal has to be done by him.
What the Father has to perform has to br done by him.
The same for the Spirit.
I cannot change things for my OWN children but have them adapt until...

We must build respect for the Son.
I can mean well but I cannot force someone to return CORRECTLY.

Jesus gave the mysteries to the Apostles only.
We must recognizs that and be respectful....

The Spirit will work with the people..

Keep well :)
Rocky Wiley said:
wordsponge,

What you say is not a parable, it is very plain. It is not hidden, just has not been revealed to all.
I like your work...
You are right BUT can we force Jesus or the Father or the Spirit.
What do we do about others?
 

Madad21

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Rocky Wiley said:
Gifts are given for the edifying of the church.

Rom_11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Rom_12:6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;
1Co_12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.
1Co_12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co_12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co_12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1Co_12:30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
1Co_12:31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
1Co_14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.
1Co_14:12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.


The gift (singular) is eternal life

Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Act_2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act_8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
Act_10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Act_11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
Rom_1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;
Rom_5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
Rom_5:16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
Rom_5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Rom_5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
1Co_1:7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Co_7:7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
1Co_13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
2Co_1:11 Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.
2Co_8:4 Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.
2Co_9:15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph_3:7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
Eph_4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
Php_4:17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
1Ti_4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.
2Ti_1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God, which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.
Heb_6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Jas_1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
1Pe_4:10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.

The scriptures are plain, the question is. Do we understand it?

Let me say, we can never do any more than be obedient to God.
Joh 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Joh 7:39 But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive:
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wordsponge said:
I like your work...
You are right BUT can we force Jesus or the Father or the Spirit.
What do we do about others?
wordsponge,

Keep on creating a hunger for the Word, just as you have in this thread.

May God bless us all
 

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Rocky Wiley said:
wordsponge,

Keep on creating a hunger for the Word, just as you have in this thread.

May God bless us all
My brother,

I checked your profile for gender so that I may address you correctly.. :)
I have DONE as Jesus said in John's Gospel and I had the GREAT manifestation.
I wanted help but I nevet expected anything like this.
Then I got OVERFLOWING Revelations, for 4 days, and to this day...
Then I got the Gift of Propecy unto EDIFICATION of the Brotherhood the flow continues...
The Bible is a SEALED Book.

My Gift:
1Cor.14
[1] Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts,
but rather that ye may >> prophesy.
[2] For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men,
but unto God: for no man understandeth him;
however in the spirit he speaks mysteries.
[3] But he WHO prophesies speaks unto men to >> edification,
and >> exhortation, and >> comfort.

Not everyone has the CORRECT heart so I leave it up the reader.
There are many imposters, especially the largest Church,
as the LORD Jesus has cautioned..
We must accept Grace on the Father's terms.
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STEP #2: Baptize correctly OR stagnate and as James said... Self decieve.
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We have been decieved about accepatable BAPTISM for about 1700 years.
The Catholic Church has admitted to it...
Only after CORRECT BAPTISM does a person
know about what GREAT value, he/ she and the past generations were deprived.
We are calling on the LORD (Jesus) to take corrective action
or else he will be seen as a co-conspirator

People with the Spirit cannot be decieved..

When preparing to baptise many obstacles arise.

I plead with you to perform it ASAP and ENJOY the NEW happy Life...

I will post on Baptism again.
Hopefully I have made it easy to understand :)

Jesus saves BUT we must go to him the (GOD) acceptable way.

Keep in touch my friend..
We have the same heart to have all people saved...
 

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wordsponge said:
We have been decieved about accepatable BAPTISM for about 1700 years.
The Catholic Church has admitted to it...

You are not only a troll but a liar as well.