Hilary Clinton - a vote for the anti-christ?

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tim_from_pa

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Hi to all in the USThe conspiracy theorists seem to point squarely at Hilary Clinton as the US face of the New World Order. Is the only solution to vote for Ron Paul? Or has the race already been won?:naughty:http://www.truthnews.us/?p=319
I'm a conspiracy theorist at heart, and there are theories out there one does not have to be nuts to believe. The reason is because whenever one wants to get to the bottom of something, one only needs to follow the money (and power) trail. In the end, who makes out rich and with power? In that sense, most Christians into eschatology are conspiracy theorists of sorts: take for example antichrist. The bible teaches of an antichrist (or some believe its a system) demanding everyone's allegiance---- in secular terms, called "one world order" as you pointed out.I would be a Ron Paul supporter, considering I'm a Libertarian. He used to run on that ticket but changed over to Republican to try to win the mainstream. But even if all the Libertarians here switched to Republican to try to get him to win in the primary, I don't think there's enough votes (i.e. Libertarians). It's sad because he makes the most sense and at least talks more like the founding father's beliefs. I think Ghouliani is going to get the Republican, and Hellary the Democratic. From there, it will be a close race IMO and at this point I do not know which will get in, but I like neither.
 

Wise Haven

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I agree TimFirst of all the conspiracy theory label is just a ruse to discredit real debate. There is enough real evidence to hang the perpetrators but, the smoke and mirrors principle seems to throw just enough confusion into the arena to prevent the emergence of truth.Ron Paul is the only human in this presidential race - and, unfortunately he is (I predict)going to meet an unfortunate end.Is the American (Majority) public going to see through the Hilary hype? I don't think so. Even if they did there is a massive vested interest that will, using foul means, make sure she wins.I guarantee it!!!
 

Wakka

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Doesn't matter. The polls are rigged. The winning candidate is already chosen.
 

tim_from_pa

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I agree TimFirst of all the conspiracy theory label is just a ruse to discredit real debate. There is enough real evidence to hang the perpetrators but, the smoke and mirrors principle seems to throw just enough confusion into the arena to prevent the emergence of truth.Ron Paul is the only human in this presidential race - and, unfortunately he is (I predict)going to meet an unfortunate end.Is the American (Majority) public going to see through the Hilary hype? I don't think so. Even if they did there is a massive vested interest that will, using foul means, make sure she wins.I guarantee it!!!
I always enjoy talking with folks "across the pond" (since you have your location is the UK. I take it you're a UK citizen.) The sad truth is, you think more like an American than Americans do. I don't understand why people are "relieving" their freedoms away in search of security and order, I guess. But I have seen a radical shift in thinking, as if people are mesmerized, in the last 10-15 years, but I think the so-called 911 occurrence was the icing on the cake so-to-speak.But as Benjamin Franklin stated (to the effect):
Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither
 

tim_from_pa

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Doesn't matter. The polls are rigged. The winning candidate is already chosen.
Now that's a conspiracy theory of sorts!
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Wise Haven

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Blunt but true (Wakka - the polls are rigged)OK that may be a little simplistic but the sad fact is that it is probably true. If you look at democracy in the US - you ain't gonna be elected if you do not have the campaign cash. That makes the candidates and their party dancers to the tune of the money men.The primary indicators of potential success in the forthcoming elections seem to be the ability to raise campaign funds.I like you, my cousins, in the USA. We occasionally have our disagreements but generally we share the same attitude towards freedom and democracy.But, things are changing - as you highlighted about the last 15 or so years. there is something happening - a lot of people seem to be sleepwalking into God knows what. The same is happening here as it is for you. Our (supposed) desire for security is being used to take away our freedom. Here we call it the nanny state - socialism at its worst. Do we have an alternative? it seems not. Our political parties all occupy the same ground(idealistically) therefore it is merely a battle of personalities.We are all being led to oblivion by our caring PC dictators - The New World Order (Brutal, but nice!)
 

jkdjr25

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When it comes to voting I have my own ideals. I intend to vote my principles and nothing else. I can assure you that it won't be for Hilary, but I don't think a vote for her will either hasten or slow down the coming dark times.
 

Wise Haven

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We should all vote on our principles - but has anyone else noticed that every political leader is voted into power on the most appealing manifesto?What happens then?When they are in power they pursue their own agenda every time. It happens in the UK too. The politicians never implement what they said they would at election time. Nothing ever gets better - in fact there is an unbelievable culture of incompetence which leads me to ask if our countries are being deliberately sabotaged from within.Or are we just being paranoid?
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zuessmatthews

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Don't have cable, listen to talk radio and local news, Who is Ron Paul? I would never vote for hillary, I have read some of her books I bought used in the library, some things she has written can and should be used against her.