How can there be life after death?

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You don't understand my atheism. I simply have a lack of belief in the mainstream versions of God. I definitely haven't ruled out that a God exists or existed at some point, I just haven't enough evidence to back up my thoughts on that.
In this case you are agnostic, not atheist, which is a much easier position to defend than if you were staunch atheist.

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As I've said before, a God who wants a personal relationship with me should be able to convince me with facts, I shouldn't need faith at all.
What makes you think you do, or should, make the rules?

For myself, I was convinced by facts, and became a Christian, and moved into faith.

Is "faith" a lessor position than "evidence"? Or does "faith" offer what "evidence" cannot?

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We know that people are willing to die for their religion, I've named Islamic martyrs who died believing that Jesus wasn't the son of God.

This is sooooo disappointing.

Are you really saying you don't understand the difference between believing-without-seeing and believing-while-knowing ?

In other words the 11 apostles collectively lied about the risen Jesus and kept preaching the lie and then died for the lie.

11 madman, idiots, liars, dying for the same lie.

Really ?????????

That's why I asked you to come with 2 examples from history.

Are you playing me?
 

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You don't understand my atheism. I simply have a lack of belief in the mainstream versions of God. I definitely haven't ruled out that a God exists or existed at some point, I just haven't enough evidence to back up my thoughts on that.
As I've said before, a God who wants a personal relationship with me should be able to convince me with facts, I shouldn't need faith at all.
Someone in another post, pointed out that we haven't yet found life existing anywhere else other than on this planet, and that somehow makes us special, maybe the conditions for life to exist happened by chance, maybe they were created? Looking at the evidence on how long it took mankind to emerge, I have the opinion that we are not particularly special, we are just getting a chance to survive like every other species that's lived and died.