How Confidant Are You Being Saved?

[faithhopecharity]

is grace eternal. or temporal?

Not salvation cos it CANNOT be lost!

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? (future)

We have grace!

Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 10:10 life and life more abundantly

Grace can be lost!

Eph 5:2-6 children of disobedience shall not inherit the kingdom of God
gal 5:1-4 fallen from grace
gal 5:19-21 shall not inherit the kingdom of God
gal 6:7-8 sow and reap
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20 shall not inherit the kingdom of God
1 tim 5:12 lost faith
Hebrews 6:4-6 fall away
rev 21:8 sin buys the lake of fire
rev 21:27 sin keeps us out of heaven
rom 8:1 gace lost by sin
gal 5:4 can fall from grace
1 cor 15:10 can have grace in vain
2 cor 4:7 treasure (grace) in earthen vessels
1 Jn 3:15 no life (grace)
Jn 15:5 apart from Christ? NOTHING!
2 Peter 1:10 diligence to make your calling and election sure
Luke 15:24 my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.

 

[faithhopecharity]

which is forever. hence the term "eternal" life

it is God who keeps us in him. Not we who keep ourselves in him.

we do not have that power..

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Romans 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
(eternal salvation)

thks

 

[Scott Downey]

Not salvation cos it CANNOT be lost!

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? (future)

We have grace!

Jn 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 10:10 life and life more abundantly

Grace can be lost!

Eph 5:2-6 children of disobedience shall not inherit the kingdom of God
gal 5:1-4 fallen from grace
gal 5:19-21 shall not inherit the kingdom of God
gal 6:7-8 sow and reap
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20 shall not inherit the kingdom of God
1 tim 5:12 lost faith
Hebrews 6:4-6 fall away
rev 21:8 sin buys the lake of fire
rev 21:27 sin keeps us out of heaven
rom 8:1 gace lost by sin
gal 5:4 can fall from grace
1 cor 15:10 can have grace in vain
2 cor 4:7 treasure (grace) in earthen vessels
1 Jn 3:15 no life (grace)
Jn 15:5 apart from Christ? NOTHING!
2 Peter 1:10 diligence to make your calling and election sure
Luke 15:24 my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found.

thks

Grace and mercy from God are required to be saved.

Bible Gateway passage: Romans 5 - 21st Century King James Version

Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also, knowing that tribulation worketh...

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1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

2 by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also, knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4 and patience, experience; and experience, hope;

5 and hope maketh not ashamed, because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost who is given unto us.

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely will one die for a righteous man, yet perhaps for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth His love toward us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

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15 But not as the offense, so also is the free gift. For if through the offense of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one Man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one who sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is for many offenses unto justification.

17 For if by one man’s offense death reigned by one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by One, Jesus Christ.

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If you do not overcome the world by your faith, then you are not of God and not saved, it is the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness that we have faith.

All saved people have an abundance of grace and mercy from the Father and the Son

1 John 5:4
For whosoever is born of God overcometh the world. And this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

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Bible Gateway passage: Titus 3 - 21st Century King James Version

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no man, not to be brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men. For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts...

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Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready for every good work,

2 to speak evil of no man, not to be brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another.

4 But after the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared,

5 He saved us not by works of righteousness which we had done, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration, and by the renewing of the Holy Ghost,

6 which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

7 that, being justified by His grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Grace and mercy from God are required to be saved.

Bible Gateway passage: Romans 5 - 21st Century King James Version

Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also, knowing that tribulation worketh...

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1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

2 by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also, knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4 and patience, experience; and experience, hope;

5 and hope maketh not ashamed, because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost who is given unto us.

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely will one die for a righteous man, yet perhaps for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth His love toward us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

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15 But not as the offense, so also is the free gift. For if through the offense of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one Man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one who sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is for many offenses unto justification.

17 For if by one man’s offense death reigned by one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by One, Jesus Christ.

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If you do not overcome the world by your faith, then you are not of God and not saved, it is the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness that we have faith.

All saved people have an abundance of grace and mercy from the Father and the Son

1 John 5:4
For whosoever is born of God overcometh the world. And this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

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Bible Gateway passage: Titus 3 - 21st Century King James Version

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no man, not to be brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men. For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts...

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Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready for every good work,

2 to speak evil of no man, not to be brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another.

4 But after the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared,

5 He saved us not by works of righteousness which we had done, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration, and by the renewing of the Holy Ghost,

6 which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

7 that, being justified by His grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Amen,

We keep ourselves unspotted in the world. to which we shine as lights.

But we can not keep ourselves saved. Only God can do this.

 

[faithhopecharity]

That distinction does not fix the problem. Romans 4:5 does not say, “to him that does natural works not.” It says, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

The issue is not whether the works are natural or empowered by grace. The issue is whether works are being made the ground of eternal life. Scripture does not allow that. “Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us” ~Titus 3:5.

Grace does produce obedience. I agree with that. Ephesians 2 says we are “created in Christ Jesus unto good works” ~Ephesians 2:10. But the same passage says salvation is “not of works, lest any man should boast” ~Ephesians 2:8-9.

So yes, real faith bears fruit. Grace changes a man. But those works are the result of salvation, not the condition that keeps a man justified before God. Christ saves. Works show the life He has already given.

i never said we are justified by works, justification is a free gift of grace. after justification we must participate in sanctification and perseverance unto eternal salvation

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

thks

 

[Eternally Grateful]

i never said we are justified by works, justification is a free gift of grace. after justification we must participate in sanctification and perseverance unto eternal salvation

this is called justification by works.

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

thks

for the wage of sin is death the gift of God is eternal life (rom 6: 23)

 

[faithhopecharity]

Good day to you also! I shall heartily disagree. Israel is and remains the children of Jacob.

We are rather called the children of Abraham. Israel and the gentiles are both branches of the tree that is Abraham.

Much love!

Ephesians 2 which I posted tells you the truth. It is God's works that save us not ours.

But we are commanded to be careful to do good works, if you do evil works, you deny Him.
Good works show our fruitfulness to God, who has done His work in us, saving us.
And we are told to be fruitful.

Matthew 5:16
Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in Heaven.

Titus 1:16
They profess that they know God, but in their works they deny Him, being abominable and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Titus 2:7
in all things showing thyself to be a pattern of good works; in doctrine showing uncorruptness, seriousness, sincerity,

Bible Gateway passage: 1 Timothy 6:17-19 - 21st Century King James Version

Charge those who are rich in this world that they be not haughty, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; that they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate, laying up in store for themselves a...

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17 Charge those who are rich in this world that they be not haughty, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;

18 that they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate,

19 laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.


KJ21
This is a faithful saying, and these things I enjoin that thou affirm constantly, that those who have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

Titus 3:14
And let our own also learn to perform good works for necessary uses, that they be not unfruitful.

if the works of the flesh earn damnation then the works of the spirit earn salvation

rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

((walking refers to the performance of deeds))

Gal 6:7-8

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

((sowing refers to the performance of deeds))

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

((to live according to the flesh or according to Spirit refers to to the performance of deeds))

It impossible to walk, sow, or live without deeds!

The rightous walk, sow, & live by the deeds of the Spirit!

1 pet 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Acts 26:20
But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

rom 2:6-8

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

thks

 

[marks]

if the works of the flesh earn damnation then the works of the spirit earn salvation

This passage below fully and completely refutes this statement above.

Romans 5:15-21 KJV
15) But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16) And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17) For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19) For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20) Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21) That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Much love!

 

[Jay Ross]

Because I am confident in God's promises and not in my own confidence.

 

[faithhopecharity]

Salvation in a nutshell!

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, (redemption) and purify unto himself a peculiar people,(justification) zealous of good works. (Sanctification) Jn 15:4 abide in Christ / Mt 10:22 endures to the end Shall be saved. (Salvation)

(((definition of terms)))

"first we must agree on these terms or we can never attain to an understanding"


The process of salvation!
(any part of the process of salvation can be called salvation or the past tense saved especially the redemption which was accomplished by Christ)

((Redemption))

eph 2:1
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

eph 2:5
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

eph 2:8

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

((Justification))

Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Rom 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, (redemption) much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (righteousness)

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{ before justification works? no!
"justification is a free gift"
after justification works? yes }

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((Union))

Jn 15:5 apart from Christ? nothing!

Phil 4:13 with Christ? all things!

Ps 23:4 Thou art with me...

Isa 53:3 by His stripes (wounds) we are healed.

1 Jn 1:6-7

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

((sanctification))

eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

practice of the virtues: faith, hope, & charity etc.

1 Thessalonians 4:3
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: (impossible without works) mt 26:41 watch & pray / heb 12:4 James 4:7 resist / eph 6:10-18 armor of God / Lk 9:23 phil 1:29 suffering

((grace enables good works))

Jn 15:5
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

2 cor 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

Colossians 1:6
Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:

((Perseverance))

Rom 8:13-17 but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 11:22 if thou continue in his goodness:
1 cor 7:24 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1 cor 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1 cor 13:13 (3) three things are eternal; faith, hope and charity and the greatest is charity.
2 thes 1:4 faith & patience
heb 6:12 faith and patience inherit the promises.
Romans 2:7 patience
James 1:4 patience a perfect work
Hebrews 10:36
need of patience
Gal 5:2-4 fallen
Gal 5:25 if we live in the spirit
Col 1:21-23 If ye continue in the faith
Col 2:5 steadfast
2 Tim 2:3 endure hardship
2 Tim 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
1 tim 5:12 lost faith
1 pet 2:20 if we suffer patiently
1 Jn 2:24-28 grace must abide in us
1 Jn 3:6 abideth in Him (Christ)
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Heb 3:4-6 if we hold fast
Heb 6:4-9 if they fall away
Heb 12:7 if ye endure
Heb 12:22-25 if we turn away
James 1:12 endureth


((Perseverance unto death))

mk 13:13
He who endures to the end shall be saved.

mt 10:22
He who endures to the end shall be saved.

mt 24:13
He who endures to the end shall be saved.

rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

((Judgement))

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment:

((eternal life: grace))
(life & union now)

Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Jn 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

2 cor 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; (grace)

1 Jn 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 Jn 5:20
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.


((eternal life: full eternal salvation in the next life))

mt 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

mk 10:30
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

James 1:12
Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

Romans 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

1 Jn 2:25
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

2 pet 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

((Gloification))

Glorification: crowned by God if we suffer with Christ!
(rom 8:17 2 tim 2:12)

 

[faithhopecharity]

All those verses describing the condition of mans heart, not the eternal divine perspective of those that are saved.

They are all statements of fact.
Point is the sheep hear, believe and follow Christ.
Them that do not, are not of His sheep, as He told you.

Examples of what we are not to be like, and in a way signs of a life not saved. We see them as a pattern.
Some of a pattern pointing toward salvation, and others as a pattern pointing to damnation.

Bible Gateway passage: 1 Corinthians 10 - 21st Century King James Version

Moreover, brethren, I would not have ye ignorant of how all of our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea. And all ate the same spiritual meat, and all drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank of that...

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Moreover, brethren, I would not have ye ignorant of how all of our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea,

2 and all were baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea.

3 And all ate the same spiritual meat,

4 and all drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

5 But with many of them God was not well pleased, for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.

7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.”

8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed — and three and twenty thousand fell in one day.

9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted — and were destroyed by serpents.

10 Neither should ye murmur, as some of them also murmured — and were destroyed by the destroyer.

11 Now all these things happened unto them by way of example, and are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

12 Therefore let him that thinketh he standeth, take heed lest he fall.

13 There hath no temptation taken hold of you but such as is common to man. But God is faithful; He will not suffer you to be tempted beyond that which ye are able to bear, but with the temptation will also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

14 Therefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say.

16 The cup of blessing which we bless: is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break: is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

17 For we, being many, are one bread and one body, for we are all partakers of that one Bread.

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.


Romans 2:6-7

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
(eternal salvation)

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Listing a lot of verses does not prove the point unless those verses actually teach that a man can be truly justified by God, born of the Spirit, given eternal life, sealed by the Spirit, and then finally perish. That is the issue.

hope this clarifies the issues

Salvation in a nutshell!

Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, (redemption) and purify unto himself a peculiar people,(justification) zealous of good works. (Sanctification) Jn 15:4 abide in Christ / Mt 10:22 endures to the end Shall be saved. (Salvation)

(((definition of terms)))

"first we must agree on these terms or we can never attain to an understanding"


The process of salvation!
(any part of the process of salvation can be called salvation or the past tense saved especially the redemption which was accomplished by Christ)

((Redemption))

eph 2:1
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

eph 2:5
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

eph 2:8

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Titus 3:5
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

((Justification))

Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Rom 5:10
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, (redemption) much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. (righteousness)

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{ before justification works? no!
"justification is a free gift"
after justification works? yes }

* * * * * * *

((Union))

Jn 15:5 apart from Christ? nothing!

Phil 4:13 with Christ? all things!

Ps 23:4 Thou art with me...

Isa 53:3 by His stripes (wounds) we are healed.

1 Jn 1:6-7

6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

((sanctification))

eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

practice of the virtues: faith, hope, & charity etc.

1 Thessalonians 4:3
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: (impossible without works) mt 26:41 watch & pray / heb 12:4 James 4:7 resist / eph 6:10-18 armor of God / Lk 9:23 phil 1:29 suffering

((grace enables good works))

Jn 15:5
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

2 cor 12:9
And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Romans 1:5
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

Colossians 1:6
Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:

((Perseverance))

Rom 8:13-17 but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
Rom 11:22 if thou continue in his goodness:
1 cor 7:24 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1 cor 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
1 cor 13:13 (3) three things are eternal; faith, hope and charity and the greatest is charity.
2 thes 1:4 faith & patience
heb 6:12 faith and patience inherit the promises.
Romans 2:7 patience
James 1:4 patience a perfect work
Hebrews 10:36
need of patience
Gal 5:2-4 fallen
Gal 5:25 if we live in the spirit
Col 1:21-23 If ye continue in the faith
Col 2:5 steadfast
2 Tim 2:3 endure hardship
2 Tim 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
1 tim 5:12 lost faith
1 pet 2:20 if we suffer patiently
1 Jn 2:24-28 grace must abide in us
1 Jn 3:6 abideth in Him (Christ)
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Heb 3:4-6 if we hold fast
Heb 6:4-9 if they fall away
Heb 12:7 if ye endure
Heb 12:22-25 if we turn away
James 1:12 endureth


((Perseverance unto death))

mk 13:13
He who endures to the end shall be saved.

mt 10:22
He who endures to the end shall be saved.

mt 24:13
He who endures to the end shall be saved.

rev 2:10
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

((Judgement))

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment:

((eternal life: grace))
(life & union now)

Jn 1:16
And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

Jn 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Jn 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

2 cor 3:5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; (grace)

1 Jn 5:13
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

1 Jn 5:20
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.


((eternal life: full eternal salvation in the next life))

mt 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

mk 10:30
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

James 1:12
Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

Romans 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

1 Jn 2:25
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

2 pet 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

((Gloification))

Glorification: crowned by God if we suffer with Christ!
(rom 8:17 2 tim 2:12)

 

[faithhopecharity]

Listing a lot of verses does not prove the point unless those verses actually teach that a man can be truly justified by God, born of the Spirit, given eternal life, sealed by the Spirit, and then finally perish. That is the issue.

hope this clarifies the issues

Listing a lot of verses does not prove the point unless those verses actually teach that a man can be truly justified by God, born of the Spirit, given eternal life, sealed by the Spirit, and then finally perish. That is the issue.

I agree that Scripture teaches endurance, obedience, abiding, suffering, faith, patience, and love. I am not denying any of those verses. The question is whether those things are the root that earns final salvation, or the fruit of God’s saving work in a real believer.

Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” John 10:27. That is perseverance. But then He immediately says, “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand” John 10:28. The following is real, but the keeping belongs to Christ.

That is why Romans 8:13 says, “if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” It does not say we mortify sin in our own strength to earn life. It says “through the Spirit.” The same Spirit who gives life also produces holiness in those who belong to Christ.

The same is true in Ezekiel 36. You quoted “ye shall keep my judgments, and do them,” but the context gives the cause. God says, “A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you” and “I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes” Ezekiel 36:26-27. That is not man keeping himself saved. That is God changing the heart and causing obedience.

Colossians 1:23 says, “If ye continue in the faith,” and I believe that. But continuing does not contradict God keeping His people. It proves the reality of the faith. Hebrews says the same thing: “For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end” Hebrews 3:14. Holding fast does not make Christ ours by merit. Holding fast shows that we truly are partakers of Christ.

That is also why John wrote, “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us” 1 John 2:19. Their failure to continue did not prove they lost true salvation. It proved they were “not of us.”

Jude 21 says, “Keep yourselves in the love of God,” but the same passage ends by saying God is “able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy” Jude 24. Scripture gives commands to believers, but it also tells us God is the One who keeps His own.

Matthew 19 does not prove salvation by commandment keeping either. Jesus told the rich young ruler, “if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments” Matthew 19:17, and then exposed that man’s heart. The disciples understood the weight of it and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus answered, “With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible” Matthew 19:25-26. That passage does not teach that sinners can earn life by law-keeping. It shows man’s inability and God’s power to save.

Galatians 5:4 also does not teach that a justified believer loses salvation by failing to work hard enough. Paul is rebuking those seeking justification by the law. He says, “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” That is not a warning against grace alone. It is a warning against leaving grace and going back to law as the ground of justification.

Yes, believers endure. Yes, believers obey. Yes, believers abide. Yes, believers are warned. But none of that overturns Romans 8:30: “whom he justified, them he also glorified.” There is still no category in that text for a man truly justified by God and then finally damned.

The biblical order is still the same. Christ saves. The Spirit gives life. Grace changes the heart. Faith works by love. God keeps His people. The fruit is real, but the fruit is not the ground of eternal life.

Please answer these questions:

If final salvation depends on your faithful obedience and good works, do you have enough obedience and good works right now to enter heaven?

If not, how many more do you need before God counts it as enough?

its God's power and grace but our participation involvement

What have you that you did not receive?” (1 Cor. 4:7), and, “But by the grace of God I am what I am” (1 Cor. 15:10).
The freedom of will that was destroyed in the first man can be restored only by the grace of justification for what is lost can be returned only by the one who was able to give it. Hence the Truth itself declares: “So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed” (John 8:36).

grace initiates, sustains, and completes every good work!

every good deed is preceded by unmerited divine grace!

rom 11:6
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. (the deeds are initiated, & accomplished by grace therefore they are not considered works)


That grace is not preceded by merit. Recompense is due to good works if they are performed; but grace, to which we have no claim, precedes them, to enable them to be done.
(grace makes them meritorious or having supernatural value)

Romans 6:23 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

1 Peter 1:9
Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
the tradition of the reformation say full eternal salvation happens the first moment we believe!

eternity for one microscopic split second act of faith!

thks

 

[bdavidc]

i never said we are justified by works, justification is a free gift of grace. after justification we must participate in sanctification and perseverance unto eternal salvation

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

thks

You may deny justification by works, but you are still making eternal salvation depend on our successful participation in sanctification and perseverance. That is the same problem moved to a later stage.

Romans 6:22 says holiness is the fruit of being set free from sin and becoming servants of God. Fruit comes from life already received. It is not the price paid to obtain eternal life. Paul settles the matter in the very next verse: “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” (Romans 6:23). Eternal life is a gift, not the final wage for adequate perseverance.

Believers are called to holiness, and true faith will bear fruit. But our perseverance rests on God’s keeping power, not our ability to complete salvation. We are “kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation” (1 Peter 1:5), and “he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ” (Philippians 1:6).

Sanctification is necessary as the evidence and work of God in those He has saved. It is not a second stage where eternal life hangs on whether we perform well enough to reach the end. Christ does not merely begin salvation and leave us to finish it. He said, “I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish” (John 10:28).

 

[bdavidc]

hope this clarifies the issues

This does not clarify the issue. It confirms it. You are defining salvation as a process in which a man is justified freely, but must afterward preserve himself through works and endurance in order to receive eternal salvation. That makes final salvation depend upon man’s performance.

Your outline begins by inserting meanings into Titus 2:14 that the verse does not give. “Redeem us from all iniquity” is redemption, but “purify unto himself a peculiar people” is not called justification. Justification is God declaring the ungodly righteous through faith in Christ: “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus” (Romans 3:24). Good works follow salvation, but they do not complete it.

You quoted 1 John 5:13, but it contradicts your position: “that ye may know that ye have eternal life.” John does not say believers merely have provisional life while waiting to see whether they persevere successfully. Jesus said the believer “hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24).

Endurance is necessary, but true believers endure because God preserves them. They are “kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation” (1 Peter 1:5). Jesus said, “I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish” (John 10:28). Paul said those whom God justified, “them he also glorified” (Romans 8:30). No justified person disappears between justification and glorification.

The warning passages call professing believers to examine themselves and continue in the faith. They do not teach that someone born of God, sealed by the Spirit, and given eternal life can become unborn, unsealed, and finally condemned. Those who permanently abandon Christ reveal what they were: “They went out from us, but they were not of us” (1 John 2:19).

The issue is not whether believers should obey, suffer, endure, and pursue holiness. They should. The issue is what guarantees their final salvation. Your answer is continued human cooperation. Scripture’s answer is Jesus Christ: “He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ” (Philippians 1:6).

A long list of verses still does not provide what was requested: one passage teaching that a person truly justified by God and given eternal life can finally perish.

 

[bdavidc]

hope this clarifies the issues


its God's power and grace but our participation involvement

What have you that you did not receive?” (1 Cor. 4:7), and, “But by the grace of God I am what I am” (1 Cor. 15:10).
The freedom of will that was destroyed in the first man can be restored only by the grace of justification for what is lost can be returned only by the one who was able to give it. Hence the Truth itself declares: “So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed” (John 8:36).

grace initiates, sustains, and completes every good work!

every good deed is preceded by unmerited divine grace!

rom 11:6
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. (the deeds are initiated, & accomplished by grace therefore they are not considered works)


That grace is not preceded by merit. Recompense is due to good works if they are performed; but grace, to which we have no claim, precedes them, to enable them to be done.
(grace makes them meritorious or having supernatural value)

Romans 6:23 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

1 Peter 1:9
Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
the tradition of the reformation say full eternal salvation happens the first moment we believe!

eternity for one microscopic split second act of faith!

thks

You still did not answer the questions. Do you presently have enough obedience and good works to enter heaven? If not, how many more do you need?

Saying that grace produces the works does not turn works into something other than works. Ephesians 2:10 says believers are created in Christ Jesus “unto good works.” God prepares and enables them, but Scripture still calls them works. Paul does not say grace makes works meritorious. That is being added to the text.

Romans 11:6 says the opposite of your argument: “And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace.” Paul does not say works become grace when grace enables them. He says grace and works cannot both be the basis of God’s saving choice.

Romans 4:4–5 is even plainer: “Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Faith does not become meritorious because it receives Christ, and works do not become non-works because God enables them.

Your statement that grace makes works “meritorious” is not found in Scripture. Jesus said that after doing everything commanded, we must still say, “We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do” (Luke 17:10). God owes eternal life to no one because of his obedience.

Romans 6:22, not verse 23, says holiness is the fruit and everlasting life is the end. But verse 23 explains how everlasting life is received: “The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” It is not wages paid for grace-enabled works.

First Peter 1:9 and Romans 13:11 speak of the future completion of salvation when believers are glorified. They do not teach that justification and eternal life remain uncertain until we have produced enough works. Jesus said the believer “hath everlasting life” and “is passed from death unto life” (John 5:24). Paul said, “whom he justified, them he also glorified” (Romans 8:30).

No one is saying a momentary profession with no continuing faith saves. Genuine faith continues and produces fruit because God preserves and changes His people. But faith is not a microscopic work that earns eternity. It is the empty hand receiving Christ.

You keep accusing others of following Reformation tradition while introducing claims such as “grace makes works meritorious,” which Scripture never says. Leave tradition out of it and answer from the text: Can a man whom God has truly justified, given eternal life, and sealed with the Holy Spirit finally perish? You still have not shown one verse that says he can.

 

[faithhopecharity]

Listing a lot of verses does not prove the point unless those verses actually teach that a man can be truly justified by God, born of the Spirit, given eternal life, sealed by the Spirit, and then finally perish. That is the issue.

I agree that Scripture teaches endurance, obedience, abiding, suffering, faith, patience, and love. I am not denying any of those verses. The question is whether those things are the root that earns final salvation, or the fruit of God’s saving work in a real believer.

Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” John 10:27. That is perseverance. But then He immediately says, “And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand” John 10:28. The following is real, but the keeping belongs to Christ.

That is why Romans 8:13 says, “if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.” It does not say we mortify sin in our own strength to earn life. It says “through the Spirit.” The same Spirit who gives life also produces holiness in those who belong to Christ.

The same is true in Ezekiel 36. You quoted “ye shall keep my judgments, and do them,” but the context gives the cause. God says, “A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you” and “I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes” Ezekiel 36:26-27. That is not man keeping himself saved. That is God changing the heart and causing obedience.

Colossians 1:23 says, “If ye continue in the faith,” and I believe that. But continuing does not contradict God keeping His people. It proves the reality of the faith. Hebrews says the same thing: “For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end” Hebrews 3:14. Holding fast does not make Christ ours by merit. Holding fast shows that we truly are partakers of Christ.

That is also why John wrote, “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us” 1 John 2:19. Their failure to continue did not prove they lost true salvation. It proved they were “not of us.”

Jude 21 says, “Keep yourselves in the love of God,” but the same passage ends by saying God is “able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy” Jude 24. Scripture gives commands to believers, but it also tells us God is the One who keeps His own.

Matthew 19 does not prove salvation by commandment keeping either. Jesus told the rich young ruler, “if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments” Matthew 19:17, and then exposed that man’s heart. The disciples understood the weight of it and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus answered, “With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible” Matthew 19:25-26. That passage does not teach that sinners can earn life by law-keeping. It shows man’s inability and God’s power to save.

Galatians 5:4 also does not teach that a justified believer loses salvation by failing to work hard enough. Paul is rebuking those seeking justification by the law. He says, “Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” That is not a warning against grace alone. It is a warning against leaving grace and going back to law as the ground of justification.

Yes, believers endure. Yes, believers obey. Yes, believers abide. Yes, believers are warned. But none of that overturns Romans 8:30: “whom he justified, them he also glorified.” There is still no category in that text for a man truly justified by God and then finally damned.

The biblical order is still the same. Christ saves. The Spirit gives life. Grace changes the heart. Faith works by love. God keeps His people. The fruit is real, but the fruit is not the ground of eternal life.

Please answer these questions:

If final salvation depends on your faithful obedience and good works, do you have enough obedience and good works right now to enter heaven?

If not, how many more do you need before God counts it as enough?

where did this concept of quantity come from, endures to the end or faithful to the end enduring all things for love of God in patience

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Psalm 23:3 does not say David lost God, lost grace, became spiritually dead again, and then was saved a second time. It says, “He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.” Restoration can mean renewing, reviving, correcting, or bringing someone back to the right path. The verse does not say God revoked David’s salvation.

First Corinthians 6 actually supports what I said. Paul tells these believers, “your bodies are the members of Christ,” “he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit,” and “your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you.” He does not tell them that committing sin makes them cease to be members of Christ or causes the Holy Ghost to leave them.

Paul’s argument is that because they already belong to Christ, they must not use Christ’s members for fornication. “Ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.” Their obedience was to flow from the fact that they had been bought, not from fear that Christ would repeatedly buy and then lose them.

No believer has a right to sin. Paul said, “Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid” (Romans 6:1-2). But the answer to a believer’s sin is conviction, confession, chastening, and restoration, not being unborn, unbought, unsealed, and then saved all over again.

You are still confusing restoration of fellowship and righteous walking with being saved again. Psalm 23:3 does not teach that salvation was lost, and 1 Corinthians 6 does not teach it either.

how do you revive something unless it dead?

not saying we can lose eternal salvation we cannot, after death and a favorable judgment we enter in to eternal life in the glories of heaven

here and now we have union by the grace of justification

By the grace of justification we have union with God thru Christ, in the communion of saints, empowered by His grace and merits and life in the spirit to attain to eternal salvation in glory!

Jn 15:5 apart from me you can do nothing.

phil 4:13
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.


Colossians 1:11
Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness;

thks

 

[faithhopecharity]

Please answer these questions:

you base alot on eph 2 so lets see what it is about!

what are the possibilities?

a) the general redemption

b) our personal salvation

eph 2:1
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

quickend or brought to life

brought to life in grace Jn 1:16

meaning that general redemption by which Christ makes our justification possible

eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

eph 2:9 titus 3:5 2 tim 1:9 not works

refers to the general redemption accomplished by Christ without our participation "works"

redemption is a part of the process of salvation so it is identified as salvation or the salvation in the past tense

eph 2:8 titus 3:5 2 tim 1:9 all use the past tense of salvation or "saved" all refer to the general redemption accomplished by Christ apart from us!

eph 2:8 excludes our participation in the general redemption "not of yourselves"!

eph 2:8 titus 3:5 & 2 tim 1:9 all refer to the general redemption, it’s already past tense when Paul wrote it so it refers something that has already occurred, the redemption accomplished by Christ apart from our involvement. “Not of yourselves”

not our personal salvation but the general redemption!


redemption and justification are not salvation, but parts in the process of salvation!

It does not end with justification as some think, having the gift of justice and righteousness there must be the performance of the deeds of righteousness and these are not dead works, but totally of grace!

Lk 1:75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

Romans 2:6-7

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
(eternal salvation)

 

[faithhopecharity]

Grace and mercy from God are required to be saved.

Bible Gateway passage: Romans 5 - 21st Century King James Version

Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also, knowing that tribulation worketh...

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1 Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

2 by whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also, knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4 and patience, experience; and experience, hope;

5 and hope maketh not ashamed, because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost who is given unto us.

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely will one die for a righteous man, yet perhaps for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth His love toward us in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9 Much more then, being now justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.

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15 But not as the offense, so also is the free gift. For if through the offense of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one Man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one who sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is for many offenses unto justification.

17 For if by one man’s offense death reigned by one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by One, Jesus Christ.

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If you do not overcome the world by your faith, then you are not of God and not saved, it is the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness that we have faith.

All saved people have an abundance of grace and mercy from the Father and the Son

1 John 5:4
For whosoever is born of God overcometh the world. And this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

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Bible Gateway passage: Titus 3 - 21st Century King James Version

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready for every good work, to speak evil of no man, not to be brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men. For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts...

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Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready for every good work,

2 to speak evil of no man, not to be brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.

3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating one another.

4 But after the kindness and love of God our Savior toward man appeared,

5 He saved us not by works of righteousness which we had done, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration, and by the renewing of the Holy Ghost,

6 which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,

7 that, being justified by His grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

grace of justification is not salvation

shall be saved future!

((eternal life: full eternal salvation in the next life))

mt 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

mk 10:30
But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

Romans 6:22 But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

Hebrews 1:14
Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

titus 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

James 1:12
Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

Romans 2:7
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

Hebrews 10:36
For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

1 Jn 2:25
And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

2 pet 1:4
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

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