How Feminism Failed Women

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Wrangler

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VIJ, you are changing the subject.

Oh come on. Like men have not been obsessed over their appearance as well.
No one is denying that. I am replying to this post:
reduces women to sex objects who obsess over their appearance, and it just goes on and on.
where women do the obsessing as a result of their value being reduce to only how they look.

Point is if you think only feminists harmed the message …they aren’t the only ones. It’s time to get real in pointing fingers. They are not the only cause of the message being murdered to death by false opinions.
No one said feminists are the only ones. It's just that the subject of this thread is feminism.
 
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Oh come on. Like men have not been obsessed over their appearance as well. Even taking the verse about the angels seeing “women” and wanting to “have them” to mingle with them sexually.

I guess their coming out with cosmetics for men. All these new commercials for mens hair care products, skin products and all sorts of stuff. Like they're women or something. WHo needs 3 different products to wash their hair?

I try to wear matching socks if I'm wearing shorts. Does that count? :jest:
 
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VIJ, you are changing the subject.


No one is denying that. I am replying to this post:

where women do the obsessing as a result of their value being reduce to only how they look.


No one said feminists are the only ones. It's just that the subject of this thread is feminism.
You assume I’m changing the subject but I don’t think I am. The topic is feminism and how it’s failed women. I’m trying to share with you from past experience of hating God and because of that hatred …I think I’ve some insight on how that hated failed.

Consider your topic of: how feminism has failed women. If I asked you: how has feminism failed “the Woman” which (Imo) is also true…how would you define “the woman”? If you define it only as “the women” then …with all due respect how are you made the spokesperson of how feminism has failed when your focal point is “the women” instead of “The Woman”?

I’d come closer to valuing your insight on “the Woman”
…than a man telling about how feminism failed “the women.” That is like someone who has never drank alcohol telling others how alcoholism failed the drunk. Did I misunderstand and you are a woman?
 

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I guess their coming out with cosmetics for men. All these new commercials for mens hair care products, skin products and all sorts of stuff. Like they're women or something. WHo needs 3 different products to wash their hair?

I try to wear matching socks if I'm wearing shorts. Does that count? :jest:
I use shampoo and conditioner. my husband uses a bar of soap including the same bar of soap to wash his hair. Lol. I don’t think he has ever used shampoo.
 
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Consider your topic of: how feminism has failed women. If I asked you: how has feminism failed “the Woman” which (Imo) is also true…how would you define “the woman”? If you define it only as “the women” then …with all due respect how are you made the spokesperson of how feminism has failed when your focal point is “the women” instead of “The Woman”?
I really do not understand what you are saying.
Did I misunderstand and you are a woman?
No. The idea that one has to be a member of a group to know if something benefits the group is a logical fallacy known as subjectism. A poll last year found that women are less happy than half a century ago, before many feminist programs were put into place. What does this tell you?
 

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I really do not understand what you are saying.

No. The idea that one has to be a member of a group to know if something benefits the group is a logical fallacy known as subjectism. A poll last year found that women are less happy than half a century ago, before many feminist programs were put into place. What does this tell you?

Most of the people in the world are less happy. there is a real need for that which doesn’t gender strife. I’m going to think about what you said. My main thing is knowing where I was, despising God and how beneficial seeing things from another perspective helped me. Especially who the two women are. One an adulterer. The other Free and called no more an adulterer. I’ve been wondering if it could help others despising Him also. There has to be people out there that it would help see another perspective of who the Woman is. Instead the same message of “the women” . If we don’t know who She is …it’s a hinderance (Imo) because it bears hatred…the feminism movements when they don’t even know what “woman” they hate(I’ve been there). I don’t know what else to say.
 

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The man hating feminists narrative is men are the oppressor and women are the oppressed victims. Women have more power to make choices today than ever. Because studies show they are less happy than before, revealed is the fact that women are not good choice makers.



A made up term by cultural Marxists. Men made civilization, which took sacrifice. When women do the same, they can have the same "privilege" also, e.g., die in wars, invent products, build things. Who builds the roads, the buildings, the products we use every day? Who invented rocket systems, designed and built satellite systems and invented and manufacture mobile phones and computers and the internet? When your stuff doesn't work, who comes to fix it, e.g., plumbers, electricians, roofers, loggers, etc? Who drills the oil and builds and maintains the electric grid. Men.

Feminists like to assert women contributed 1% so that makes them equal. Their commitment to equality is shown as you said, in the unwillingness to give up female privilege.


A number of my friends have noticed, and it is also in books, that women are jealous that men derive satisfaction from work. My wife often denies I am even working on the grounds that I enjoy doing it. And you're right, societal work is far less meaningful and pathetic than raising a family.

I often say to workers that if it were not for the money, I would not even be here (at work).
Some women may rightly say they are oppressed by some moronic boof head, i know such men who are some what that way and want to dominate over all in their lives, for maybe they feel that their ego will be hurt ? it's all driven by the ego i would think.
The Ego is gutless coward in fact. regardless of who it drives man or woman.


When one is an Anti-Christ ones works are fruitless ! i have seen such people claim that where their wife is at is all because of him ! they do not give her credit at all, they may talk her down and totaly dominate over her and also the kids ? i have seen wifes do the same to their own kids. i have seen shools that the same undermining was peddled on the kids and never to work to lift them up, so they can stand on their own two feet ! Just normal carnal dupes who live in a bubble and Marxism looks good to such morons, because they can not see past such, for they are Lost !

We had a Child Shrink at our political meetings that came forward speeking in front for the meeeting session, who was in such a profesion all his working life, then 65yo saying he did not feer the Cultural Marxist in power of them kicking him out for his views.

He pointed out the problem with some young girls he delt with wanting to be a man, can be or was based on a moronic up bringing be it mum or dad or brothers, who look down on her saying that she is only a girl and will never be a anyone ?

That can be just a key point ! i am not getting into such in depth here mind. but the real key issue with anyone who is treated and undermined is not good ! such is evil and not good for the Health of a Child at all in fact.

Such undermining of others must be exposed as totaly wrong and looked down upon !

This Shrink was talking about genda issues regarding the Marxist Socialist power over drugs topic that is used in gender change regards that is dominating over ones childs Parents rights ! you have no rights, for they stole that from you in fact, the children are the States Children in fact, for you the Parents are on the Marxist Socialist scale, all are equal ?
That means the lowest denominator rules in fact and you are just an number in regards a Socialist Governmet in fact.
Just like in Nazi Germany was. The Government sets the agenda for you all, because you are just like cattle in their eyes in fact ! If they want to jab you with a expermental Vaccine or whatever you must obay or else !

The Fabian Socialist working are so as too gain power over time, it's a two steps forward and then one steep back, but they inch forward year by year till they dominate the Government with Socialism as your god !

They just ban God cancel it out as they do with everything that they want banned and it just becomes the new normal !
Just like Hitler became the new normal to the Germans one could say.

The Socialist use the lowest denominator as the Standard for all in fact ! so remember that moron family i said about above, that the standard set for you all ! because as fare as a Socialist Government that is you ! and most people who come from shit family life are dedicated Socialist in Government. and they can not see past their own up bringing, for they think that is just normal, everyone is regarded as a backward shit deralict person. for that's their Standard in fact.
 
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Hypergamy. In a word, for those who appreciate exactness.

This is a thread I've wanted to start for some time. I've got 2 friends who are 60 years old who have gone through divorce in the last year. Let's approach this subject with relevant Scripture.

God's Spirit makes us loving, happy, peaceful, patient, kind, good, faithful
Galatians 5:22 (CEV)


After 50 years, feminism has failed to produce happier women. Gains in women’s rights haven't made women happier. Why is that? A hallmark of any valid principle is that it works. Feminism does not work. There can be no greater indicator of a flawed belief system than it fails the Galatians 5:22 test, it fails to produce happiness. The scientist in all of us ought to ask why is it that feminism has failed?

Of course, feminists double down on external causes, move the goal posts. From equal opportunity to equal outcomes. From equal pay for equal work to equal pay, regardless of work. The embrace of victim mentality is somehow empowering but does not produce happier woman. After half a century, the data is in. Women make different choices than men. And these choices make them less happy. Why?

Regarding relationships, the feminist claim was that feminism would make relationships between men and women better because there would be less stress on men to financially provide and have less stress in making all the big decisions. This idea is wrong because it fails to take into account inherent nature of women; hypergamy. Repeating the failure of Original Sin, today's woman want it all. The catch phrase is that they "won't settle" AS IF that makes them a strong, high value women. Feminism's appeal to woman's pride - of coveting, of getting MORE - is the root cause of feminism's failure.




In practice, today's women don't get more, they get less. They end off bitter and alone. Men are far worse off also and that is a topic for another thread. Let us pray. Let us pray people turn away from failed ideas not of this world and embrace Jesus and the fruit of the Spirit, which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness and faithfulness.
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And how am i so strongly unctioned to remind us all of something .
I want you to visualize
try and imagine this being done BY WOMEN of GOD who sat in those houses
wherein paul and others had preached the word of GOD unto .
Now visualize this and i say this for a real good reason .
Visualize them dear ladies of GOD who were a massive help to the church and others
EVER ONCE telling paul , peter , barnabas , john , or any other
HEY BUDDIES we gonna set up a room WHERE ONLY WOMEN ARE ALLOWED and NOT MEN .
WHY o why was i SO LED to warn us of this reminder today .
WHY are such places being set up wherein a man cannot enter into such places
and if he do , HE ISBANNED . I would like you to show me
or anyone else for that matter
WHERE SUCH A THING would ever have been done or allowed by the apostels , let alone
WHERE any true women of GOD would have even dared to do such a thing .
THIS IS NOT to condmen anyone . WE all slip up at times . BUT IT IS TO WARN US that this Should not be done .
 
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Or the Ladies’ restroom?
What I thought of as most significant where men are excluded from, is the Proverbs 31 Woman. Most of the interactions I’ve had concerning the Proverbs Woman is men tell me it’s only for the women. I do think the opposite. Who’s your mother? The slave woman of the free woman? Simply put I think the Proverbs 31 Woman is
Numbers 5:28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive (Christ)seed. < birth given from above and of God.

Galatians 4:22-24 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. [23] But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. [24] Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar.
Where is the other Woman bears children whom are free, born anew?

Point is …men are excluded from the Proverbs 31 Woman is what I thought of. that Only women live and breathe and walk in the teachings of the Proverbs 31 Woman?
 

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What I thought of as most significant where men are excluded from, is the Proverbs 31 Woman. Most of the interactions I’ve had concerning the Proverbs Woman is men tell me it’s only for the women. I do think the opposite. Who’s your mother? The slave woman of the free woman? Simply put I think the Proverbs 31 Woman is
Numbers 5:28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. < birth given from above and of God.

Galatians 4:22-24 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and one by a free woman. [23] But the son of the slave was born according to the flesh, while the son of the free woman was born through promise. [24] Now this may be interpreted allegorically: these women are two covenants. One is from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery; she is Hagar.
Where is the other Woman bearing children whom are free, born anew?

Point is …men are excluded from the Proverbs 31 Woman is what I thought of. that Only women live and breathe and walk in the teachings of the Proverbs 31 Woman?
Men need to know all things written , as well as do women .
Even by reading proverbs thirty one , can help a man to find such a woman .
SEEING HE KNOWS what to look for my friend .
I must agree that we ought not try and exclude the men .
Am i against the wiser women talking with the women . NO
but what i am against is WHEN a sign says MEN NOT ALLOWED .
Think about for a while .
DO we really think the true sober women of the apostels days
WOULD ever have dared to say and or to do such a thing .
Lets give a scenario and YOU think about and pray about this my friend .
And so Lydia and Rhonda , dorcas and the women came together
And said WE must have a place where ONLY women can meet and no man allowed .
So they tell the apostels peter , paul , john , HEY GUYS
we are setting up a place to meet , NO MEN ALLOWED .
DO you even THINK such a lovely GOD INSPIRED women would have said such a thing
AND if they did , DO YOU THINK the apostels would have said , OH AMEN . I TROW NOT .
Excluding men from , NOT GOOD .
 
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