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I think many Catholics in particular betrayed a pro-life President and instead chose to vote for a proponent of infanticide, so it goes without saying most of them likely didn't pray.
Here is a Catholic priest's message to Catholics who supported Biden:

Priest Prepares Congregation for Upcoming Biden Years with Dark Homily: 'We Are in for It, Folks'

By Alice Giordano
Published January 10, 2021 at 10:20am

South Carolina Catholic Priest Jeffrey Kirby recently told his parishioners that any Catholics who voted for Joe Biden should be ashamed of themselves.

“Some of you, I know, voted for someone who is now going to suffer and persecute the church for the next four years. That on top of the fact that he supports the utter slaughter of the unborn,” Kirby said on Dec. 29.

“What have you done to your church?” Kirby shouted.

“Watch how our hospitals disappear because we will not follow government dictates. Watch how our support of unwed mothers disappears because of constant and unreasonable regulations. Watch as mother church shrinks. Watch how she is treated by this government, this coming administration.

“And those of you who voted for such an administration bear the responsibility of what you have done. Because we are in for it, folks. And they are already getting ready.

“Have you seen the appointees? Some of the most aggressive, anti-Catholic, anti-organized religion leaders in their various states. And this is what we’re in for.”

In his sharp rebuke of Catholic Biden supporters, Kirby, who led one of the daily invocations as guest chaplain for the House of Representatives last January, asked if they somehow missed the lessons learned under Soviet communism, Nazism and similar current regimes like the one in Venezuela.

“If you somehow missed that, how?” he asked. “Have you been living under a rock?”

Kirby even berated church leaders for not taking a stand against Biden, saying, “never forget the spiritual mystics tell us that the pavements of hell are paved with the skulls of bishops.”

Kirby, who has authored several books, is not exactly a nobody priest in the Catholic Church. Last summer, Pope Francis named him a papal Missionary of Mercy, a touted honor in the Catholic religion.

Kirby showed a lot of chutzpah laying out what many of us Christians have been thinking in silence.

We’ve long been irritated by self-identified Catholics like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who — in the name of “gender neutrality” — just recently moved to ban “gendered words” in the House rules and who has been a reliable vote in favor of abortion “rights.”

But now along comes Biden, hailed as only the second Catholic (JFK was the first) to ever grace the White House. According to CNN, he rarely misses Mass. His pal, Delaware Democratic Senator Chris Coons, recently told the outlet that “Joe’s faith isn’t just part of who he is. … It’s foundational to who he is.”

But while Biden is accepting the sacred body of Christ at the altar, his Cabinet is, as Kirby so aptly charged, is looking more like the anti-Christ, at least from the Catholic religion’s point of view.

There’s Ohio Rep. Marcia Fudge, his pick for secretary of Housing and Urban Development. She has lobbied to keep an Obama policy that requires federal government-funded shelters to house people based on their “gender identity,” including by allowing men who identify as women to be housed with women.

California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, Biden’s pick to run the Department of Health and Human Services, has previously filed suit against the pro-life Catholic group Little Sisters of the Poor in an effort to block a policy that would exempt them from the Obamacare contraception mandate, according to Fox News.

“Becerra spent years tormenting the Little Sisters of the Poor in court, trying to force them to pay for things like abortion pills against their consciences. He also led efforts to force pro-life pregnancy resource centers to advertise for abortion,” Ashley McGuire, a senior fellow at the Catholic Association, told Fox.

Meanwhile, Ron Klain, Biden’s White House chief of staff pick, likely wants to use the power of the federal government to crack down on what he derided in a 2019 Washington Post Op-Ed as “fetal rights.”

Biden can of course go the route of his Catholic predecessor, John F. Kennedy, who once declared, “I am not the Catholic candidate for president. I am the Democratic Party’s candidate for president, who happens also to be a Catholic.”

It was a good choice of words for a Catholic politician. Let’s see if Biden copies Kennedy (although Biden might not want to be careful about copying any more politicians).

Father Kirby said it best anyway: “Evil talks about tolerance until it’s in control. … Never forget that the only thing evil needs to succeed is for good people to remain quiet.”


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Here is a Catholic priest's message to Catholics who supported Biden:

Anyone taking their cue from the Catholic church is sadly contributing to the agenda of ONE world order for sure.
I am beginning to find it laughable that people will search the internet for bits and pieces of information to FIT their agenda.

The solution to this problem ( in America and every where else for that matter ) is this...
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

People are so hyped up and riled up... that they refuse to obey what Christ has commanded.... to LOVE one another. America has been gone ( MIA ) for a great many years... The Evangelical Christians falsely appointed themselves as seers and prophets 4 years ago when Mr. Trump got voted in... and this is the result.... CHAOS and DIVISION like never before in the Christian world. It seems people would rather FIGHT than OBEY.
 
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Of course He is, but I was talking about how we should pray according to God's will and not our own.

1 John 5:14-15
This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us – whatever we ask – we know that we have what we asked of him.

Yes but that's the point, people say "Lord if it be Thy will" folks even think their sicknesses and poverty come from God.

How can you have faith for healing if you believe your sickness came from God? Jesus IS God's will He always healed those who came to Him for healing, He never said "go thy way for this sickness cometh from God or this sickness is sent to teach you or this sickness will bring glory to God"

"For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might destroy the works of the devil" God's will is always to deliver us from evil amen.
 

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I know that this is not my thread....however... I think this is the perfect place to insert what I am about to say...

These last 48 hours... I have been land-blasted by several people who decided I was attacking the president of the United States by simply stating I felt he was guilty of inciting violence. I also made the comment that at this time ( only days into the investigation )... I did not feel that ANYONE is able to accurately IDENTIFY any groups responsible for the riot at Capital Hill... and that doing so (at this time and without evidence)...was contributing to FAKE NEWS.

We are called to be honest with our words... we are called to be respectful with our dealings with others... Christians and non-Christians... We are called/commanded to respond to others in and with LOVE.

I absolutely understand that these are difficult times for Americans... but does that mean myself and others who disagree with the assessment of things are allowed to be bullied and pushed around? It seems to me that these forums are a wonderful place and opportunity for Christians to GATHER and DISCUSS all things of the world... and Christianity. That was certainly in my heart and hope when I first arrived here.

I guess I am simply at the end of my rope with those who come into this place... day after day.... vomiting forth their ALMIGHTY truths without even a thought of ENGAGING in conversation... They place their comments down as the Almighty Truth... leaving no room for discussion and firing down all those who would dare to disagree with them... as being WRONG... MISINFORMED...GUILTY of EVIL.... This is not only disturbing... it is DANGEROUS.

I don't have a problem with differences in opinion... It's part of the beauty of this world... but I do have a problem with the self-appointed EXPERTS who visit these threads. Some seem to be EXPERTS in the election... in RELIGION... in this new virus (COVID)... as well as other things.

I don't have a problem admitting I don't know everything... I probably don't even know much... however... I seek to engage in healthy conversation with others... and just because I am Canadian... should not disqualify me from the conversation.
 
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Yes but that's the point, people say "Lord if it be Thy will" folks even think their sicknesses and poverty come from God.

How can you have faith for healing if you believe your sickness came from God? Jesus IS God's will He always healed those who came to Him for healing, He never said "go thy way for this sickness cometh from God or this sickness is sent to teach you or this sickness will bring glory to God"

"For this purpose was the Son of God made manifest that He might destroy the works of the devil" God's will is always to deliver us from evil amen.

I don't believe sickness comes from God. And just to SAY 'in Jesus name' doesn't necessarily mean that it is. Before I pray I ask the Holy Spirit what I should pray for and then I know I am praying according to God's will and from my own heart or head. I haven't very often been led to pray for healing but for peace and fortitude and similar things. If God told me to pray for healing then I would have the faith to do so.
 

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I am mad, I am betrayed by many, I hurt, I am depressed. I and many others prayed and you know what we got bupkis, that's what we got. I am sick and freak-in tried of people giving verse after verse after verse as if that will help anything. I am sick of people quoting verse about the end times. I am SICK OF IT ALL!

We pray and pray, nothing happens in most cases. I have prayed consistently to get healed, bupkis again. I prayed for a wheelchair van for four frakin years, my Church prayed but still it took four years. I prayed so my parents wouldn't die yet they did six hours apart. Every time I took it to prayer and I just prayed in thanksgiving many times. So now we put all our trust in God, prayed to Him and nothing. Millions of people prayed for the right thing to be done and nothing.

Don't tell me prayer works anymore. To be a Christian is to court massive disappointment
Folks that do not obey Acts 2:38 were never 1st century Christians in the first place.

I would have quit the first month if I was not baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of my sins and filled with the baptism of the Holy Ghost power of God to divinely lead me out of the quicksand of sin and into an awesome adventure of faith.(Good and bad).

Sounds like someone needs to hit reset.
 
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I have been disabled all my life

I am sorry to hear this. Anyone who has not been disabled cannot possibly understand where you are coming from.

In my ways to be a Christian is to court disappointment not happiness

All I can say is:

Keep your eye on the prize!

Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Remember, Christ prayed that the cup of the cross would pass from; but God’s will was for him to suffer like no other man has:

Matthew 26:38-39
Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Come through the fire my friend, come through the fire! Great things are on the other side!

1 Peter 1:7
That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ

I remember my father quoted this very verse to me when once I tearfully asked why I was going through a situation at the time.

I have had my times when I asked God why?!

But persevere onwards, endure to the end.

2 Corinthians 4:18
While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
 
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I am mad, I am betrayed by many, I hurt, I am depressed. I and many others prayed and you know what we got bupkis, that's what we got. I am sick and freak-in tried of people giving verse after verse after verse as if that will help anything. I am sick of people quoting verse about the end times. I am SICK OF IT ALL!

We pray and pray, nothing happens in most cases. I have prayed consistently to get healed, bupkis again. I prayed for a wheelchair van for four frakin years, my Church prayed but still it took four years. I prayed so my parents wouldn't die yet they did six hours apart. Every time I took it to prayer and I just prayed in thanksgiving many times. So now we put all our trust in God, prayed to Him and nothing. Millions of people prayed for the right thing to be done and nothing.

Don't tell me prayer works anymore. To be a Christian is to court massive disappointment
i am sorry for what you feel i'm just feel sorry for what you are having through but we all know sometimes we feel that way sometimes we doubt i am also very sad right now so i do not know the right words to cheer you up i've also been there we all prayed but it was futile as for me i always think that if my prayers are not working then i doubt and doubting after a prayer will probably make your prayer invalid if it's not work then it is my fault i did not give it my all i am not sincered but just trying to be and if i do not doubt but it still did not work then i am wicked God do not hear the prayers of the wicked and if not all that then it is because i do not deserve what i am prayer for it is not for me so it will not be given and from what i see God is testing your faith now you seems to have given up on that just like how i was tested then fall on to pit then was punished... but the people God loves he punishes them then correct their wrong doings for us to strive

yeah i've been there we prayed for his health we all are 50+ people and other outsiders everyday as well as everytime people want to give prayers they pray for the same thing but different words one purpose to save people did not abandoned him everyday there is always visitors in his room it was always like a feast in the end the prayer was redirected for his salvation and to ease his pain and sufferings we prayed for his painless death but he still struggled i feel like crying but no tears coming out i really feel so sad the moment i saw your topic i remembered him a lot of denominations visited the born again church said it was for the greater good to save his family members but another denomination refused to believe well we are mourning yet you have the guts to say that

what you are experiencing right now is probably a test or a lack of faith even if you are angry you have no choice but to get back to God sooner or later
 
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if your prayer do not work well you know more than me i am just a nub i can't even call myself a christian for you know what is written in the bible

if the bible is not true what can you say about ghost? what can you say about miracles that specialists can't explain? you really believe that those cute adorable animals was made from the bigbang theory and no one designed them? just try to look at the vision of a fly it looks so much like the flash movie that human can't even imagine it was like a time machine God created them all well you do know that riight more than me just that you are tired and nyou lost your faithi in the bible will you soon then convert to islam? since God is real

there are a lot of people like you they are very knowledgeable and are used to be christians but now an atheist will you be one? isn't what job experienced more terrible for you to lost your faith? you have been in the faith for a long time why don't you examine yourself first before you really part ways examine yourself why is it God do not hear my prayers or is ignoring am i doing it right
 

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Here is a Catholic priest's message to Catholics who supported Biden:

Priest Prepares Congregation for Upcoming Biden Years with Dark Homily: 'We Are in for It, Folks'

By Alice Giordano
Published January 10, 2021 at 10:20am

South Carolina Catholic Priest Jeffrey Kirby recently told his parishioners that any Catholics who voted for Joe Biden should be ashamed of themselves.

“Some of you, I know, voted for someone who is now going to suffer and persecute the church for the next four years. That on top of the fact that he supports the utter slaughter of the unborn,” Kirby said on Dec. 29.

“What have you done to your church?” Kirby shouted.

“Watch how our hospitals disappear because we will not follow government dictates. Watch how our support of unwed mothers disappears because of constant and unreasonable regulations. Watch as mother church shrinks. Watch how she is treated by this government, this coming administration.

“And those of you who voted for such an administration bear the responsibility of what you have done. Because we are in for it, folks. And they are already getting ready.

“Have you seen the appointees? Some of the most aggressive, anti-Catholic, anti-organized religion leaders in their various states. And this is what we’re in for.”

In his sharp rebuke of Catholic Biden supporters, Kirby, who led one of the daily invocations as guest chaplain for the House of Representatives last January, asked if they somehow missed the lessons learned under Soviet communism, Nazism and similar current regimes like the one in Venezuela.

“If you somehow missed that, how?” he asked. “Have you been living under a rock?”

Kirby even berated church leaders for not taking a stand against Biden, saying, “never forget the spiritual mystics tell us that the pavements of hell are paved with the skulls of bishops.”

Kirby, who has authored several books, is not exactly a nobody priest in the Catholic Church. Last summer, Pope Francis named him a papal Missionary of Mercy, a touted honor in the Catholic religion.

Kirby showed a lot of chutzpah laying out what many of us Christians have been thinking in silence.

We’ve long been irritated by self-identified Catholics like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who — in the name of “gender neutrality” — just recently moved to ban “gendered words” in the House rules and who has been a reliable vote in favor of abortion “rights.”

But now along comes Biden, hailed as only the second Catholic (JFK was the first) to ever grace the White House. According to CNN, he rarely misses Mass. His pal, Delaware Democratic Senator Chris Coons, recently told the outlet that “Joe’s faith isn’t just part of who he is. … It’s foundational to who he is.”

But while Biden is accepting the sacred body of Christ at the altar, his Cabinet is, as Kirby so aptly charged, is looking more like the anti-Christ, at least from the Catholic religion’s point of view.

There’s Ohio Rep. Marcia Fudge, his pick for secretary of Housing and Urban Development. She has lobbied to keep an Obama policy that requires federal government-funded shelters to house people based on their “gender identity,” including by allowing men who identify as women to be housed with women.

California Attorney General Xavier Becerra, Biden’s pick to run the Department of Health and Human Services, has previously filed suit against the pro-life Catholic group Little Sisters of the Poor in an effort to block a policy that would exempt them from the Obamacare contraception mandate, according to Fox News.

“Becerra spent years tormenting the Little Sisters of the Poor in court, trying to force them to pay for things like abortion pills against their consciences. He also led efforts to force pro-life pregnancy resource centers to advertise for abortion,” Ashley McGuire, a senior fellow at the Catholic Association, told Fox.

Meanwhile, Ron Klain, Biden’s White House chief of staff pick, likely wants to use the power of the federal government to crack down on what he derided in a 2019 Washington Post Op-Ed as “fetal rights.”

Biden can of course go the route of his Catholic predecessor, John F. Kennedy, who once declared, “I am not the Catholic candidate for president. I am the Democratic Party’s candidate for president, who happens also to be a Catholic.”

It was a good choice of words for a Catholic politician. Let’s see if Biden copies Kennedy (although Biden might not want to be careful about copying any more politicians).

Father Kirby said it best anyway: “Evil talks about tolerance until it’s in control. … Never forget that the only thing evil needs to succeed is for good people to remain quiet.”


Priest Warns Congregation of Persecution During Incoming Biden Years

I saw video. Thank you, I was looking for this and forgot the Father's name. Fr. Kirby's words are so true
 

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I implied you were wrong only for treating God like a genie, not that you are bad, or a bad Christian.

Which I never did, you read that in to my post and by implication your were condemning 60 million for doing the doing that and none of us did. I am sorry if I was bad to you.
 

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I am hopeful in God not mad anymore. I was impatient because like most of the microwave generation I wanted God to move in 3 minutes or less, I know God has a plan. Listen to this video:


 

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I implied you were wrong only for treating God like a genie, not that you are bad, or a bad Christian.
What you need understand is when you impart to hb that they're making wishes when they pray, you're by affiliation making that same claim against all Christians who pray.
Praying isn't wishing and treating God like a genie. I've known atheists who claim praying is begging. They're wrong there too.
Maybe take the time to learn what prayer is before implying through your lack of knowledge something that is wholly wrong and impertinent when insisting it is true despite those efforts toward correction and education.
what is prayer - Yahoo Search Results
 
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I've been disabled for all of my life, too. The past 15 years have seen my spinal column take a turn for the worse. I live with debilitating pain which isn't going away unless the Lord sees fit to change that or my appointed time comes. His will and not my own be done. It's taken many years of being conformed to the image of Christ to come to this place where I count it all as joy. Easier said than done so my sympathy for you comes from the fellowship of suffering. I get it.

There was a time when I burned with anger at the Lord! I was angry because this is the way I was made and I couldn't comprehend why Christ saw fit to afflict me. The pain wasn't as severe when I was a young man and I loved hard labor --- construction was the most fun I ever had on a job --- and I relished being outdoors. The aches and pains of my youth are nothing in comparison to the burning agony of sleeping on a bed... waking up with awful pain in the morning... or the flare-up that follows something simple like sweeping the floor.

It's good for us to remember that it's through many tribulations we enter the kingdom of God. After my anger was spent... every bit of it expressed honestly and sincerely to the Lord... God in His kindness revealed something to my heart. This suffering we're going through?

It doesn't last forever. :)
 
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I explained why you were treating God like a genie. I was confused then as to why you did not see the connection, but now I am even more confused because since then you have admitted to being impatient regarding God and your prayer requests...

You maybe confused as long as you like but you are absolutely wrong so leave it, k. Have a look at this post here I am mad..needed to vent maybe you'll learn what prayer really is instead of a warped view you may have. God bless you and may He clear up your confusion, oops can't do that because you assume I think God is a genie
 

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I said God is not a genie and a prayer is not a wish. However, one treats God like a genie and a prayer like a wish when they expect what they ask for to be given to them and get impatient and thus bitter when it is not given when and/or how they wanted. @historyb was impatient and bitter in their OP regarding God and their prayers and later admitted to being impatient and mad.
Yes, we know God is not a genie and a prayer is not a wish. However, we also know Jesus said, anything you have need of you have but to ask it in my name and it shall be granted unto you.

Perhaps you might take into consideration those who suffer much, as hb has said of himself, feel let down per that promise of Jesus when they've prayed for years to none effect. For you see, there is no post script or addendum to that verse that stipulates, as long as God thinks it the proper time to grant that which one prays for.

I think if you read just hb's posts as pertain to all that he's suffered over those years of praying for naught you might glean understanding as to why he is impatient and mad.
If that were me, I'd be impatient and mad too. Years? Years of praying and asking the same thing and nothing? It's a natural response.
 

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Yes, we know God is not a genie and a prayer is not a wish. However, we also know Jesus said, anything you have need of you have but to ask it in my name and it shall be granted unto you.

Oh no now you done did make @soul think God is a genie. :D:D:D
 

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Like a genie? I suggest you consider the context surrounding Jn. 16:23-24.
Thank you. Now we do know your true motives for pursuing that genie line.
Further? Jesus never once said what is in your signature. "The eye of the soul is the will." Not once.
Thanks.