Johann
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Jesus in Messianic Bible Prophecies
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Comparative Index to Islam : ISHMAEL
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Jesus in Messianic Bible Prophecies
answering-islam.org
Your question answered, and read slowly, there is a lot of biblical data to ingest.
Comparative Index to Islam : ISHMAEL
www.answering-islam.org
Abraham did not sacrifice anyone. God provided a ram which Abraham sacrificed. God required an unblemished animal to be sacrificed not a sinful human. The sacrifice must be perfect.I am searching! I do not want to defend a belief. But it is true that many Muslims believe that the person whom Abraham sacrificed was Ishmael, and they claim that It is mentioned in the Messianic prophecies, The one who is supposed to be the savior comes from the generation of the one who was supposed to be sacrificed by Abraham.
I don't looking for who was the sacrificing boy! I am looking for relation between "The act of sacrifice by Abraham" and the "Messianic prophecies".
Sorry my friend!Abraham didn't "want" to sacrifice Isaac.
Yes, the Christian Bible teaches that Jesus, who was and is the promised Messiah, was a descendant of Isaac.
Matthew 1
English Standard Version
The Genealogy of Jesus Christ
1 The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
2 Abraham was the father of Isaac, and Isaac the father of Jacob, and Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers, 3 and Judah the father of Perez and Zerah by Tamar, and Perez the father of Hezron, and Hezron the father of Ram,[a] 4 and Ram the father of Amminadab, and Amminadab the father of Nahshon, and Nahshon the father of Salmon, 5 and Salmon the father of Boaz by Rahab, and Boaz the father of Obed by Ruth, and Obed the father of Jesse, 6 and Jesse the father of David the king.
And David was the father of Solomon by the wife of Uriah, 7 and Solomon the father of Rehoboam, and Rehoboam the father of Abijah, and Abijah the father of Asaph,[b] 8 and Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat, and Jehoshaphat the father of Joram, and Joram the father of Uzziah, 9 and Uzziah the father of Jotham, and Jotham the father of Ahaz, and Ahaz the father of Hezekiah, 10 and Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, and Manasseh the father of Amos,[c] and Amos the father of Josiah, 11 and Josiah the father of Jechoniah and his brothers, at the time of the deportation to Babylon.
12 And after the deportation to Babylon: Jechoniah was the father of Shealtiel,[d] and Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel, 13 and Zerubbabel the father of Abiud, and Abiud the father of Eliakim, and Eliakim the father of Azor, 14 and Azor the father of Zadok, and Zadok the father of Achim, and Achim the father of Eliud, 15 and Eliud the father of Eleazar, and Eleazar the father of Matthan, and Matthan the father of Jacob, 16 and Jacob the father of Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called Christ.
17 So all the generations from Abraham to David were fourteen generations, and from David to the deportation to Babylon fourteen generations, and from the deportation to Babylon to the Christ fourteen generations.
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The link you provided states that:Ishaq or Ismail: The Muslim Dilemma
www.answering-islam.org
It is most unlikely that a Christian will be able to speak to Muslims directly of Isaac as the son whom God called on Abraham to sacrifice without some reaction from them. Virtually every Muslim will interject that it was Ishmael and that the attempted sacrifice took place at Mina a few miles north-east of Mecca.
Abraham and the Child of Sacrifice - Isaac or Ishmael?The link you provided states that:
Why the sacrificial boy is Important?
Because the god said the savior will come from the sacrificial boy. right?
Implied premise. Where do you get the idea that such a relationship exists?I am looking for relation between "The act of sacrifice by Abraham" and the "Messianic prophecies"! I don't looking for who was the sacrificing boy!
Hmmm. It’s like you’re stuck on OT text. Imagine holding Muslims to OT text and completely ignoring the life and writings of and about Muhammad?But you already assumed that Christ is the one (the savior)! But Muslims don't believe that!
The link you provided states that:
Why the sacrificial boy is Important?
Because the god said the savior will come from the sacrificial boy. right?
Point to CHRIST JESUS to the last breath my friend .Rebuttals to Islamic Awareness : The Sacrifice Of Abraham: Isaac or Ishmael?
www.answering-islam.org
Ishmael or Isaac?
Was Ishmael or Isaac the son whom Abraham was to sacrifice?www.answering-islam.org
Rebuttal to Mohamed Ghounem : Was Isaac or Ishmael to be sacrificed?
www.answering-islam.org
Abraham, Faith and the Works of Righteousness
A resource for informed dialog between Muslims and Christians on our respective faiths. This site is a Christian response to many Islamic web sites attacking the Bible and Christian doctrine.www.answering-islam.org
You are diverting @muslimhastamstudy-irrefutable evidence has been provided, why are you still questioning this Forum?
Johann.
I'm at a low point in my life brother-hope you understand.Point to CHRIST JESUS to the last breath my friend .
All other religoins will not save . The flesh profits nothing . Even the jews who born according
to the lineage of issac , could not be saved LEST they came to FAITH IN CHRIST . were REBORN ANEW IN CHRIST .
Point to CHRIST till the absolute last and final breath ebbs out those lungs .
For if one denies CHRIST , THEY DENIED GOD . March on my friend . march onwards in the glorious LORD .
The muslims hold their view to a lie that cannot save them anymore than a lie can save anyone .Rebuttals to Islamic Awareness : The Sacrifice Of Abraham: Isaac or Ishmael?
www.answering-islam.org
Ishmael or Isaac?
Was Ishmael or Isaac the son whom Abraham was to sacrifice?www.answering-islam.org
Rebuttal to Mohamed Ghounem : Was Isaac or Ishmael to be sacrificed?
www.answering-islam.org
Abraham, Faith and the Works of Righteousness
A resource for informed dialog between Muslims and Christians on our respective faiths. This site is a Christian response to many Islamic web sites attacking the Bible and Christian doctrine.www.answering-islam.org
You are diverting @muslimhastamstudy-irrefutable evidence has been provided, why are you still questioning this Forum?
Johann.
a low point . what do you mean my friend .I'm at a low point in my life brother-hope you understand.
Johann.
Maybe depression-don't want to give too much information on this public Forum.a low point . what do you mean my friend .
Give that low point a mule kick my friend . WE got all hope for JESUS IS OUR HOPE .I'm at a low point in my life brother-hope you understand.
Johann.