If aliens from another world land and we meet them, does that affect your religious beliefs?
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Meeting real aliens from outer space would strengthen my belief in God, for this vast universe could not possibly have only humans as the only intelligent life.
Scientists and humanists will feel threatened, because they cannot tolerate the idea that there are beings smarter than humans.
But super smart space aliens would have zero interest in visiting boring humans. Unless we were food for them.
And maybe CS Lewis is correct.
In C.S. Lewis’s "Space Trilogy" (or Ransom Trilogy), Earth is famously depicted as Thulcandra, the "Silent Planet," which is quarantined from the rest of the solar system. This isolation is due to the "Fall" of man and the malicious influence of its corrupted evil tyrannical leader angel, the "Bent One".
Key Aspects of the Quarantined Earth:
Scientists and humanists will feel threatened, because they cannot tolerate the idea that there are beings smarter than humans.
But super smart space aliens would have zero interest in visiting boring humans. Unless we were food for them.
And maybe CS Lewis is correct.
In C.S. Lewis’s "Space Trilogy" (or Ransom Trilogy), Earth is famously depicted as Thulcandra, the "Silent Planet," which is quarantined from the rest of the solar system. This isolation is due to the "Fall" of man and the malicious influence of its corrupted evil tyrannical leader angel, the "Bent One".
Key Aspects of the Quarantined Earth:
- The Silent Planet: Earth is cut off from the interplanetary community (managed by eldila or angelic beings) because its ruler (biblically Lucifer) rebelled against God, making it a place of darkness.
- The "Bent" World: The planet Earth is considered a forbidden zone, a "dark-faced fortress" or a "quarantined leper colony".
- Cosmic Quarantine: Lewis explores the idea that immense distances in interstellar space is actually a form of divine protection—a "quarantine precaution" designed by God to prevent the spread of evil from Earth from spreading to other, unfallen, sinless planets.
The distance......We think of space travel as a giant skyrocket, flames shooting out the back. But effective space travel would use a combination of gravity and dimensional travel through portals. Think of it this way, with dimensional travel, distance and time is not a real factor because you could enter a portal and come out a million light years away in a few seconds. In this type of travel solids do not matter.
There are several portals on Skinwalker Ranch and they have videos of UAP's coming out of solid rock. Same thing for Mt. Shasta and some volcanos. UAP'S fly through air at thousands of miles per hour with no visible means of propulsion and no effect on the air or water....no splash.
Some think the white or lit globes are angels.
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Rockerduck
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They are demons and they know who is a child of God and who isn't. They will only go where Christians aren't. Any born again Christian will not be fooled.
You make some great points.
But I do not know how a human could go through a portal and survive physically. It would not be like stepping through a doorway of a terrestrial building. Seems like a dimensional portal might scramble your atoms or disintegrate your body.
Did you mean Skinwalker Ranch?
Skywalker Ranch is a renowned, private film production campus and creative retreat located on nearly 6,000 acres in Marin County, California, near Nicasio and San Rafael. Owned by filmmaker George Lucas, it serves as the home of Skywalker Sound, a world-class audio post-production facility.
Nobody in general society knows if space aliens exist or what the UFOs are.
People like to blurt out that they must be demons, and that is very likely, but they cannot prove it, so it is just guessing. A good guess, but nothing more unless they can prove it.
To be stubborn and rigid about an opinion blocks a person from learning and increases the sin of arrogant pridefulness.
I am not impressed by the release of UFO files so far. If aliens are here, why can’t they help us medically, cure cancer, purify our air and water, and stop wars?
I want the Antarctica files released now! Something rather mysterious is going on down there, it seems.
Adventageous
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My thoughts are not really relevant, but I will share what the Bible says about life on other worlds.
Right Skinwalker Ranch.
We know that there is something going on. And we know they defy the Laws of Physics. So not likely man-made.
From 1882 to 1969 in less than 88 years we went from candles and horse and buggy to nuclear power and landing on the moon. Some believe that aliens had something to do with it. If it only took 88 years why did it not happen sooner.
Adventageous
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C.S. Lewis (not a fan really; though I have read quite a bit of his stuff), was essentially right on those 3 points.
The Bible describes unfallen beings from unfallen worlds visiting this world, and even fallen beings that are still down here on earth with us. I have a whole section in my book, here - Chapter 12 - The created Hosts of Heaven, the Fallen, & their natures, pages 120-178 - Godhead - The Eternal Heavenly Trio : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
2Ki 2:12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
Keep in mind that "fire" is often synonymous with lightning or light in scripture (as like the "fire of God" in Job). A vehicle of light, and that which moves it is light. When we say that a car has "horse-power", we do not mean it is literally being drawn by animals equine and of fleshy nature. The city of God, like a great ship sailing through the cosmos, New Jerusalem, is described as with all manner of lights and precious stones, and even called "mother":
Gal_4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Rev_3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Rev_21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
Both the OT and NT describe these beings, along with vehicles they travel in, and places they come from. Jesus himself mentions these other worlds and their unfallen beings:
Mat 18:10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
Mat 18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
Mat 18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
Mat 18:14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Luk 15:3 And he spake this parable unto them, saying,
Luk 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Luk 15:5 And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
Luk 15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
Luk 15:7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
Rev_12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Isa_40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Heb_1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb_11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Isa_45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
Joh 14:4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
Several star systems are mentioned in scripture:
Job 9:9 KJB - Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
Job 38:31 KJB - Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
Job 38:32 KJB - Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? Or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
Amos 5:8 KJB - Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name:
Revelation 1:16 KJB - And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. (See also Rev. 1:20, 2:1, 3:1, and also consider the “Pleiades” as the ‘seven sisters’, Isa. 4:1 KJB.)
This lost world, due to sin is under quarantine (just like in Leviticus, &c), and is surrounded by Holy Angels (like at Mt. Sinai), that do not let anything in that does not have authority from God in, and nothing goes out that does not have authority from God out. God will not allow sin to transverse the cosmos and spread everywhere. It will be burned here, on the "spot" (of Leprous sin). For more details, please see the linked materials, thank you.
do not forget C.E.R.N. they are said to open portals as well evil......
as for the ET's I know they are demonic I have been plagued by evil since I was very young, ill give you an example, one night, i woke up to to to the bathroom, where i lived at that time there was a long corridor that gave access to all rooms in the house, like many other house in Montreal they were made that way, close to the entrance I see a perfect description of a grey alien about 4 foot tall looking at me with evil intent, I tough really strongly while looking at them directly with a murderous intent towards them that they better leave now because i till tear them apart limb by limb and I meant it a was about to leap to that one and i thought of Christ to give me strength to kill it, It vanished right away, they hate the bible , they hate Christ's name I keep bibles open in the house, I flip the pages then read a few pages when I pass by, the word of God protects, not the bible itself but the words from it it in your mind do , If we abide in Christ , he protects us assuredly. he helped me a few times already I am a witness to this.
extraterrestrials are demons I have never read anything good about them when they met or most likely abducted people on the contrary.
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Wick Stick
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I agree with Rockerduck? I mean... I agree with Rockerduck.
Any so-called "aliens" that arrive from above, more likely have their origins below.
UFOs, the strong delusion?
It would be easy, with current technology, to fake ETs and a flying saucer attack. Some government military fights and defeats the space aliens. Then the whole world worships and obeys that government that saved the planet from alien invaders.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
It would be easy, with current technology, to fake ETs and a flying saucer attack. Some government military fights and defeats the space aliens. Then the whole world worships and obeys that government that saved the planet from alien invaders.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
King James Version
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Rockerduck
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I know for sure, you should too.
2 Corinthians 2:11 - so that no advantage would be taken of us by Satan, for we are not ignorant of his schemes.
2 Corinthians 11:14 - No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
Rockerduck
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At the beginning of my Christians studies, I too believed this is the strong delusion. Over, but over 70 years, starting in 1959 with the movie Forbidden planet, we have read and seen many documentaries and movies, from Roswell, NM. Star Wars, ET, Alien, Communion, Close encounters, and lately Guardians of the galaxy. TV shows like Star Trek and lost in Space. There is many more, but in these last days we have people believing men can have babies and there is more than 2 sexes. Man think they are women and women think they are men. What is good they call evil and evil is called good. These last 10 years have been wacko. I'm believe demons are pushing this transgendered people and what they believe and fool others to believe also. Romans 1:32 - and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.
All true....
2nd Corinthian 33:21 And the things you see in the sky that fly thousands of miles an hour are Satan's chariots.
I knew we could find it.
And the demonrats what our little girls stripping and showering with men in locker rooms. And they think it is right to take a child away from their parents and mutilate their genitals. Satan spreads his wings and does a dance over abortion clinics. Is it a sin for a Christian to vote for a demonrat?
Wick Stick
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Do you really think the Republican party is better? I think most of the people on both "sides" answer to the same corporate sponsors.
I'm looking for anyone to vote for who isn't serving a globalist agenda, or a corporation's whims.
If there are aliens landing, I'd be very surprised because I don't really believe in them.
Life on earth is unique and I don't think aliens exist
Life on earth is unique and I don't think aliens exist
Oh ya, worlds better.....
1.Besides the fact that they are socialist-communists they support communist politicians.
2. They opened the southern boarder for a flood of illegal aliens.
3. They are against election security---No ID's required---illegal aliens voting---students on visas---Not allowing law enforcement---covering windows---running ballots after the monitors have left. Since they desire Marxism or communism they do not want fair and honest elections so they do everything they can to make it easy to cheat…..This year the governor of California stopped requiring ID’s to vote.
4. They support and fight for the right to murder over 600,000 innocent babies a year. That is 600,000 a year, around 8 million in ten years, that dwarfs the holocaust! Even Hitler did not target babies. This is one of their central core concerns and I truly believe that Satan applauds their efforts.
5. Every demonrat voted unanimously that your daughters and granddaughters should strip in front of men and shower with them in locker room.
6. They believe transgender male should be able to play in female sports....It can cause physical harm and rob them of victories...take away scholarships.
7. In no way do they include God in their campaign even taking the words “under God” out of the pledge of Allegiance. They even pause to make sure everyone understands they are intentionally omitting the words. This anti-God sentiment is so strong that most Democrats know that if they spoke of believing in God, they would loose support of their colleagues and voters. This anti-God campaign is central to their beliefs.
8. Promote sex gender reassignment in public school and take them from their parents if they do not agree.
9. Promoting the idea that if you are white and Christian, and a patriot, you are a white supremacist.
10. They support illegal aliens over citizens and give them benefits.
11. Illegal aliens who commit murder, rape, and molestation of minors are given a slap on the hand by leftist judges.
12. The right to worship…in the Democrat states the right to assemble and worship has been made illegal, supposedly because of Covid. But they say they believe in the science of it, but the lockdown approach has been used and proven ineffective in this country and around the world. The science of it is that, if it was going to be effective, it would have already been effective.
13. While shutting down the churches the Democrats support the lawless, destructive, violent, and murderous protests by mobs….
Which by the way, proves that the assembly of large crowds does not promote the spread of Covid. They know this, so the shutting down of the churches is just because they do not like Christians. Do they hate God or do they just not believe there is a God?
14. The Democrats have taken Christian groups to court to try to force them to comply with the rules of “Obamacare” and abortion. Women’s groups who council women are forbidden by law to speak against abortion.
15. The Democrats have made it clear that they denounce the founding of this country, its history, and those leaders that were part of it. They have admitted this and support the mobs that destroy the monuments to our past, even calling for the removal of these monuments. This is all part of the 1619 project which they intend to teach to our children. “Our country is bad and communism and atheism is good! Which is why they are against school choice that would give children of all races an opportunity for a better education.
16. Education….it takes little effort to find out that they support teaching our children communism, atheism, homosexuality, support for abortion, and drug use and sex changes in our schools. What they want to teach our children. Trying to program our children in schools and collages to learn critical race theory and cancel culture history and the whole 1619 project and communism and normalization of homosexuality and anti-Christian beliefs. Teachers and principals are threatened with dismissal if they tell the parents what they are teaching their children…Every parent needs to look into this. I and others have done the research and I have personally done the interviews. Make it your business to know what they are teaching your children. If your kids are not doing the pledge of allegiance to the flag in school, or not allowed to pray, those are your first clues.
Teachers and principals are threatened with dismissal if they tell the parents what they are teaching their children…Every parent needs to look into this. I and others have done the research and I have personally done the interviews. Make it your business to know what they are teaching your children. If your kids are not doing the pledge of allegiance to the flag in school, that is your first clue.
17. Drugs….Democrats support, even believe it is a right to take drugs. Their efforts to legalize drugs is something they do not even try to hide. Marijuana stores! Who would have ever thought that? Had a guy delivering furniture to my house and I was talking to him and noticed the cab of his truck reeked of Marijuana. So I said, Like the weed do ya? He replied that he had a medical prescription. I laughed and replied, And the prescription says that you should specifically smoke while you are driving?
18. Except for the murderous protests the Democrats stand against the 1st amendment to the Constitution. They want and work at silencing those that are of other options or others that stand against their evil acts and intentions, specifically Christians.
19. Legal….Their only interest in laws are the laws that support abortion and homosexual marriages, drug use and the murderous riots. No one accuses the Democrats of being for law and order. If you want a prosecutor that hates law enforcement officers and is out to make a life of crime a safe occupation….vote in a Democrat prosecutor. If you are paying attention, law enforcement supports the Republicans.
20. From the CBS news website…. Democratic 2020 candidates struggle over whether to legalize sex work… “sex work!” lol Why not, they call murder abortion! Prostitution and sex trafficking. You would do well to look this up. All forms of sexual depravity… homosexuals, marriages of homosexuals, prostitution, and sex trafficking. Sex trafficking…not willing to admit that they support it…but if you notice they do not lead a campaign to stop it or prosecute offenders.
Democratic 2020 candidates struggle over whether to legalize sex work
"The answer is that we're going to take a hard look at it, but I'm not going to give you a definitive answer now," says Sanders
www.cbsnews.com
21. Law enforcement…The Democrats support Defunding the police and as you can see not one Democrat has stood up to denounce this ludicrous idea. The Democrats are against law and order, responsibility, and accountability.
22. The Democrats do not believe that the United States is a sovereign nation and so believes it borders should be open and that illegal aliens should have the same rights and access to public schools, medical care and welfare and unemployment serves that the American citizens have. It is basically their motto “their fair share is in your pocket.”
23. Sovereign county…The Democrats have never been known to support the military…but the Republicans have always celebrated the heroes of our military. Why don’t they support the military? Well if a communist country attacks and takes over this country, it just makes their job easier. Would they even put up a fight?
24. The Democrats openly acknowledge that they want to convert this country to socialism. But even that is a lie, they want some weird form of green anarchy communism which will stand against Christianity. A communist country that support Christianity?…. there is no such thing.
25. One of the first things a communist regime does is disarm the public…so the Democrats are against the 2nd amendment and want to disarm the public, leaving them defenseless against the criminals and murderous mobs.
26. They want to raise Taxes to fund scum.
27. They want to defund Law Enforcement.
28. They want to take away our right to own guns. Between this and revolve courts and no bail and the defund the police....the streets would be chaos.
Do you think you can come up with a list like this for Republicans.
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