If Christian Universalism is true, what's the point in evangelism?

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St. SteVen said:
Humans live their lives here in constant search to better their situation. This is human nature.
Why would anyone settle for less than what God is providing in the afterlife?
I don't really think there is another choice than God's grace. Hell is a human invention.

What would be gained by rejecting God's grace forever?
Find a corner in hell to sit and pout? While the gates of heaven are open wide?
The heart is deceitfully wicked, that's why.. And just look around and see that humans do not always seek to better their situation....many are self-destructive. It takes an act of God's grace and power to convert a soul.
 
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That supports what I am saying. Every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. (= salvation)

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says,
“Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).
Regarding Phil 2:9 verse......we need to "hear what the Spirit is saying", because God's word is a spiritual word. Even the demons confess who Jesus is but they are not saved.........even the devil believes and trembles but he is not saved. And they do also bend the knee at the name of Jesus , ie, they have to obey Him, though they are not saved. For example, that is how demons are cast out and many sicknesses are healed. The devil even had to obtain God's permission to test Job and had to bend the knee and obey when the Lord put limits on what he could do to Job. When the wicked are raised to be judged, they will know then who Jesus is, but it won't mean they are saved.

Mar 1:24
Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.

Luke 4:34
Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.


And when once the Master has risen up and shut to the door, it will be too late for salvation.....people need to seek the Lord while He may be found: and while it is still called Today....after death it is too late:

Luk 13:23-25

Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,

Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
 
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The heart is deceitfully wicked, that's why.. And just look around and see that humans do not always seek to better their situation....many are self-destructive. It takes an act of God's grace and power to convert a soul.
And BY WHO and WHO alone can any be REDEEMED . JESUS THE CHRIST . FAITH IN HIM .
That is the redemptive plan for both jew and gentile . Any who opposes that WILL SURELY BE DESTROYED on the day of the LORD .
If even we examine what God did to those nations that came against israel
we would see it was ONLY when Israel was in obediance and NOT IN DIRE REBELLION
that GOD would d estroy those . OTHERWISE we see HIM use such enemies TO destroy the rebellious house of israel .
I think a lot of folks are very partial in their views .
Always seeming to forget WHO is THE BLESSED and upon whom cometh the destruction .
And that GOD was not always pleased with israel , just as He is now not pleased with much of chrsitendom .
REBELLION is being taught and embraced as being the love of God . And how i shudder for every soul that partakes
of that there harlots love . Let us cling to Christ and let us teach HIS words and later the Spirit filled
words of the apostels who had known him , had walked with him . Even paul who was a one born out of due time .
YOU will see ONE THING they had in common . THEY POINTED ONLY TO JESUS .
And guess what , they were all jews too . I DIDNT see any of them give israel FALSE HOPE either .
THEY warned the jew ,they warned the gentile , IT WAS ALL ABOUT having to BELEIVE ON and to FOLLOW CHRIST
I sure advise us all to go and do likewise . Be encouraged my friend . but as i say often
IT IS JESUS POINTING TIME and TIME for all to get into the bible again for to learn and be refreshed in such lovely pure truth
 

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But even if people are put on judgment, it also needs to be confess Jesus Christ is the Lord, and confess their mistakes.

Then the whole Bible will not contradict itself.
Yes.
I believe there will be an Age of restoration.
Every nation, leader and person will give account.
For the purpose of correction, restoration and redemption.
The healing of the nations.
 

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Regarding Phil 2:9 verse......we need to "hear what the Spirit is saying", because God's word is a spiritual word. Even the demons confess who Jesus is but they are not saved.........even the devil believes and trembles but he is not saved. And they do also bend the knee at the name of Jesus , ie, they have to obey Him, though they are not saved. For example, that is how demons are cast out and many sicknesses are healed. The devil even had to obtain God's permission to test Job and had to bend the knee and obey when the Lord put limits on what he could do to Job. When the wicked are raised to be judged, they will know then who Jesus is, but it won't mean they are saved.
Maybe you missed this?

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

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Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth
and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation,
acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved. Christ died and returned to life
so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. (the reason for the bodily resurrection)
 

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Maybe you missed this?

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth
and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation,
acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved. Christ died and returned to life
so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. (the reason for the bodily resurrection)
The Holy Spirit causing any person or devil to confess who Christ is, does not necessarily mean they are saved. Just like the Holy Spirit forcing demons out of hiding and into the light (manifesting) doesn't mean they are saved.

And only the Holy Spirit can lead us into all truth....the carnal mind can't. So I wonder why many rely on the carnal mind so much instead of the Holy Spirit? Is it because they don't have the Holy Spirit?
 
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The Holy Spirit causing any person or devil to confess who Christ is, does not necessarily mean they are saved.
The word "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 means whole-heartedly, and without reservation.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says,
“Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
 
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The Holy Spirit causing any person or devil to confess who Christ is, does not necessarily mean they are saved. Just like the Holy Spirit forcing demons out of hiding and into the light (manifesting) doesn't mean they are saved.

And only the Holy Spirit can lead us into all truth....the carnal mind can't. So I wonder why many rely on the carnal mind so much instead of the Holy Spirit? Is it because they don't have the Holy Spirit?
Many are very partial in how they see things .
many forget all those IFS even GOD had told ISRAEL
and later JESUS would tell his own and later his own told the church .
GOD was not well pleased with much of israel now was HE .
Not man y walked as DID abraham now did they .
Always the LORD would warn for HE desired not their d eath
but when the rebellious would not repent , would not hear , OH DEATH and destruction would come upon them .
So many see the flesh and see the earthen
when all along it should have been the spiritual and the heavenly they had sought .
Many will wail on the da y of the LORD . And that many includes even many who had used HIS NAME
and yet never knew him but had followed only men who led them to their own destruction .