If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?
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Saved by faith alone yet performance is required to remain saved.
Ok, how do you rate your compliance with the following command ?
Matt 25:35-46
35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Indeed, I think we have! The guy has posted 423 times since joining just 25 days ago. That's a whopping 17 posts per day, every single day. I smell a rat.
Saved by faith alone yet performance required to remain saved ?
Ok, how do you rate your compliance with the following command ?
Matt 25:35-46
35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Grailhunter
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LOL
Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7:21-23
Yeshua is not a sin team member.
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How do you rate your compliance with the following command/requirement ?
Or maybe you believe it doesn't apply to you ?
Matt 25:35-46
35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Grailhunter
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Matthew 25:35-46
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Be good and do good.
I believe in charity and those that do not help others will go to Hell.
Was that YES you keep that command or NO you haven't ?
eg.
Have you ever visited a stranger in jail ? and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Have you ever housed a homeless person in your own home ? I was a stranger, and ye took me not in:
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Grailhunter
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Of course Yeshua wants us to do Good Deeds and it pleases Him.
But Good Deeds do not save you.
On the other hand, not doing Good Deeds and send you to Hell.
Reference the story of the Sheep and the Goats.
""""""On the other hand, not doing Good Deeds and send you to Hell.
Yet according to Paul
Titus 3:
5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Gal 2:
16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Rom 3:
28Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Eph 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Rom 4:
5But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Rom 5:
1Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
Grailhunter
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I do not have time to educate you.
I think you have a misunderstanding between "works of the Law" observice of the Mosaic Law.
And Good Deeds, which Yeshua and the Apostles told us to do.
Again Good Deeds do not save us....but....
And why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? Luke 6:46
Your educating style is not requested nor required.
Your teachings mix all the Apostles together and you fail to rightly divide.
What you teach is in direct contrast to what many other Pastors teach
Grailhunter
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Not many preachers only consider what Paul preached.
The whole OSAS is a heresy.
You single out a few scriptures to formulate your beliefs.
You have to consider the scriptures as a whole.
Behold
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Reader,
You can't walk away from being born.
Even a 4 yr old should be able to understand that fact of life.
Let me show you what i mean....
Lets say you went to your mother and said......>"i no longer have faith that im your son. I dont believe it anymore , so, im leaving my faith that i was your son even tho you are my birth mother".
Now this person is not THINKING........ they are... delusional.
A.) Someone....who does not understand that being BORN is not something you can LOSE or "walk away from".
Now apply this to being """BORN again"""......which is a Spiritual Birth.
Now try to "walk away from being BORN......again".
Its not possible, however, delusional people who do not understand Salvation, and who will never understand being born again, will certainly try to argue that they can "walk away" from God.
AA.) Being BORN again is an eternal BIRTH in the Spirit......its ETERNAL. It lasts for as long as God LIVES as He is our BIRTH FATHER.
You can't stop being BORN, and you can't stop being BORN AGAIN.
I agree good works is the desire of the believer to help others ... it follows our salvation ... works is faith expressed.
1 Cor 3:14-15 tells us that a person's works might be burned but that person will still be saved.
If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
So works play a role in rewards but not in salvation.
I see Jesus' list in Mat 25 as representative, not prescriptive. There are so many ways in which we can help others ... and there are many who are unable to do anything, but they can give funds to those who do, or they can pray for them.
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Brother, it's this constant focus on how to get saved and stay saved that gets me. Like it's all about saving my sorry butt. Me, me, me, me, me.
Like that old Sunday song says " J O Y ... Jesus first, yourself last, and others in between"
When I allow good works to put the attention on how good I am, then I need to be refreshed by God's love.
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