If sealed with the HS, how does one become UNsealed ?

[PeterAndroz]

I have not read all 300 responses, but Biblically? Once sealed you are sealed forever!

Confirmed by Paul in 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 for today
But what about early Acts BEFORE Paul ?
What verses do you believe teach how the HS was received then ?

 

[Truth7t7]

Finally you are right! OSAS, Universalism, and Calvinism are definitely not in the scriptures. Boy I am glad we got that settled.

(O)nce (S)ealed (A)lways (S)ealed has absolutely nothing to do with the false teachings of Universalism

You deny God's words below regarding (Eternal Security)

1.) You falsely believe that a Holy Spirit sealed believer isn't sealed until the day of redemption

2.) You falsely believe that a sealed believer can be taken out of God's hand

Conclusion: Your belief is "False", (O)nce (S)ealed (A)lways (S)ealed is a "Biblical Fact" that you openly deny "Sad"!

(Eternal Security)

Ephesians 1:13-14KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

John 10:26-30KJV
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

 

[Lambano]

Do we all understand that the Christian Religion began 2 thousand years ago?

Religions evolve and adapt to changing circumstances. Judaism today does not look like what was practiced during the desert wandering, or the First Temple era, or post-Exile, or during the Second Temple era. Christianity doesn't look like what Jesus practiced, or what the house churches in the Greco-Roman world practiced.

Do we understand that if we accpet BRAND NEW ideas that came about after the year 1,500 it means every theologian before this time MISSED something very important in the NT?

The basic concepts of Reformed theology, Election and God's sovereignty over all aspects of life, already existed in Judaism. Even OSAS is prefigured in the mishnah (Sanhedrin 10:1), saying that "All Israel has a share in the World to Come". (Then it proceeds to define a few groups who are apparently not considered part of "all Israel".) Calvin, Beza, and the like just emphasized certain aspects over others in a way that hadn't been done before.

Calvinism is as heretical is the person that started it by following the teachings of a heretical manachean.

Can't disagree with that. The church really ought to revoke Augustine's sainthood.

 

[Lambano]

I'd add to the above that OSAS was disseminated throughout the Protestant denomnations by
John Darby in about 1820.

He adapted the P of the S into mainline Protestantism...
althoug, we do have to state, that mainline Christian denominations do NOT accept OSAS....

Darby came from a background in the Plymouth Brethren, a very Calvinist sect. His understanding of Perseverance would have been grounded in his understanding Election. Darby's Dispensationalist teachings, though, took hold in the more Arminian denominations where logically both Election and Perseverance should be conditioned on continued (free-will) faithfulness. OSAS makes no sense in that metanarrative.

 

[Grailhunter]

You deny God's words below regarding (Eternal Security)

I do not deny any of God's words....and and and....I take them as a whole. Combing the scriptures to find what agrees with you is called cherry picking....and it produces false beliefs.

 

[Truth7t7]

I do not deny any of God's words....and and and....I take them as a whole. Combing the scriptures to find what agrees with you is called cherry picking....and it produces false beliefs.

1.) God's words below teach that a believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit until the last day of redemption

2.) God's words below teach that once a believer is in the Father's hand he receives eternal life, being unable to be removed from the Fathers hand

The scripture below isn't contradictory with God's entire words found in my Holy Bible, it's that simple, Eternal Security is a Biblical "Fact"

(Eternal Security)

Ephesians 1:13-14KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

John 10:26-30KJV
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

Your problem is your looking at the person who is a "False Christian", they were never sealed by God the Holy Spirit, they had all the outward appearance of a Christian, prophesied, cast out devils, wonderful works?

"I Never Knew You" Never Sealed

Matthew 7:21-23KJV
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[Truth7t7]

I do not deny any of God's words....and and and....I take them as a whole. Combing the scriptures to find what agrees with you is called cherry picking....and it produces false beliefs.

Predestination is a "Biblical Fact" God has made vessels to dishonour and honour

"He Had Afore Prepared Unto Glory" Predestination "Fact" and your not going to change God's words below, those sealed by God the Holy Spirit are the (Called, Justified, Glorified) by God's predestination in foreknowledge, it's that simple

Romans 9:21-23KJV
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

You fail to recognize the fact of scripture and predestination, God has foreknowledge of all who will be glorified, simple, clear, easy to understand

Foreknowledge, Predestination

Called, Justified, Glorified

Romans 8:28-30KJV
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

[GodsGrace]

Religions evolve and adapt to changing circumstances. Judaism today does not look like what was practiced during the desert wandering, or the First Temple era, or post-Exile, or during the Second Temple era. Christianity doesn't look like what Jesus practiced, or what the house churches in the Greco-Roman world practiced.



The basic concepts of Reformed theology, Election and God's sovereignty over all aspects of life, already existed in Judaism. Even OSAS is prefigured in the mishnah (Sanhedrin 10:1), saying that "All Israel has a share in the World to Come". (Then it proceeds to define a few groups who are apparently not considered part of "all Israel".) Calvin, Beza, and the like just emphasized certain aspects over others in a way that hadn't been done before.



Can't disagree with that. The church really ought to revoke Augustine's sainthood.

So was the church right before or now?

If any system can make such drastic changes....it cannot be trusted.

 

[GodsGrace]

Darby came from a background in the Plymouth Brethren, a very Calvinist sect. His understanding of Perseverance would have been grounded in his understanding Election. Darby's Dispensationalist teachings, though, took hold in the more Arminian denominations where logically both Election and Perseverance should be conditioned on continued (free-will) faithfulness. OSAS makes no sense in that metanarrative.

Of course.
He made up his own rules.

You have perfectly illustrated why new ideas are not mainline and why they're heretical.

Either he's right
Or
The church, as it existed for 2 thousand years is right.

Do you believe the CC was better in the first few hundred years or after it began to make changes?

I agree on Augustine.

Proof positive that change is not acceptable when it comes to the teachings of Jesus or the Apostles.

 

[Grailhunter]

1.) God's words below teach that a believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit until the last day of redemption

Matthew 7:21-23KJV
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

God's words below teach that a believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit until they sin so much that Yeshua judges them to Hell.

Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many [a]miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.”

2nd Corinthians 5:10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad..

Matthew 18:9 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire.

Philippians 2:12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling;

1st Corinthians 6:9-10 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor those habitually drunk, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God”

Galatians 5:19-21 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: sexual immorality, impurity, indecent behavior, idolatry, witchcraft, hostilities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:3-5 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a person is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

John 5:28-29 Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

Romans 2:5-6 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God, who will render to each person according to his deeds:

Mt:12:36: But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Mt:5:22: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Mt:7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Hebrews 6:4-8
4: For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5: And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6: If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. 7: For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God: 8: But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

Hebrews 10: 26-31
26: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27: But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28: He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30: For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Continued.......

 

[Grailhunter]

God's words below teach that a believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit until they sin so much that Yeshua judges them to Hell.

2Pt:3:7: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Jude:1:15: To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

Rom:1:32: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Rom:5:12: Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Rom:6:12: Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Rom:6:13: Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

Rom:6:16: Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Rom:7:23: But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

1Cor:15:56: The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

Gal:3:22: But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Rom:3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

1Cor:6:18: Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth sexual immorality sinneth against his own body.

2Cor:12:21: And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.

2Cor:13:2: I told you before, and foretell you, as if I were present, the second time; and being absent now I write to them which heretofore have sinned, and to all other, that, if I come again, I will not spare:

1Tm:1:15: This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Ti:3:11: Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Jms:4:8: Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

1Pt:4:18: And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

1Jn:1:10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1Jn:3:8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1Tm:5:20: Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

1Tm:5:24: Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

Ti:3:11: Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Heb:2:17: Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Heb:3:13: But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Heb:8:12: For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Heb:12:1: Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Jms:1:15: Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Jms:2:9: But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

Jms:4:8: Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Jms:5:15: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

1Pt:4:18: And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

1Jn:1:8: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1Jn:1:9: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1Jn:1:10: If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

1Jn:2:1: My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

1Jn:3:4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

1Jn:3:6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

1Jn:3:8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1Jn:5:16: If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

 

[Grailhunter]

Predestination is a "Biblical Fact" God has made vessels to dishonour and honour

Predestination is a biblical fact.....yes.
God has the power and occasionally He uses it.
But He did not determine who is going to Hell before they are born and babies do not go to Hell if they die before being saved. And He did not make us as robots.

 

[GodsGrace]

Predestination is a biblical fact.....yes.
God has the power and occasionally He uses it.
But He did not determine who is going to Hell before they are born and babies do not go to Hell if they die before being saved. And He did not make us as robots.

Good work GH!

I find it unbelievable how some risk their very souls
by not reading the entire NT.

And if I am to err....
I will do so on the side of safety!

 

[GodsGrace]

Predestination is a "Biblical Fact" God has made vessels to dishonour and honour

You're a calvinist.
What else do you have besides Romans 9?

Which, BTW, NO OTHER DENOMINATION interprets it as you do.
Now that is an interesting fact.

"He Had Afore Prepared Unto Glory" Predestination "Fact" and your not going to change God's words below, those sealed by God the Holy Spirit are the (Called, Justified, Glorified) by God's predestination in foreknowledge, it's that simple

Sir,

John Calvin CHANGED THE WORD OF GOD.

And YOU are following the teachings of a MAN
instead of the teachings of the One who died on the cross for you.

Your choice to do so,
of course.

Unless, of course, God predestinated some of us to believe in Jesus
and some of us to believe in John Calvin..

so as to cause confusion between what has become to be known as Christianity.

Romans 9:21-23KJV
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

You fail to recognize the fact of scripture and predestination, God has foreknowledge of all who will be glorified, simple, clear, easy to understand

Do you understand that FOREKNOWLEDGE
is not PREDESTINATION?

I ask because it seems that some do not understand the diffference.
All Christians believe in foreknowledge.
ONLY Calvinists believe in predestination.

Not that's an interesting fact.

Foreknowledge, Predestination

Called, Justified, Glorified

Romans 8:28-30KJV
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Oh my.
You ARE behind the times.
Read Romans 8:30 VERY carefully.
Does it seem to be in the past tense?

Yes.
You could find out about that.

IF you want to.

IF God makes you want to want to.

 

[GodsGrace]

1.) God's words below teach that a believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit until the last day of redemption

2.) God's words below teach that once a believer is in the Father's hand he receives eternal life, being unable to be removed from the Fathers hand

The scripture below isn't contradictory with God's entire words found in my Holy Bible, it's that simple, Eternal Security is a Biblical "Fact"

(Eternal Security)

Ephesians 1:13-14KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

John 10:26-30KJV
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

Your problem is your looking at the person who is a "False Christian", they were never sealed by God the Holy Spirit, they had all the outward appearance of a Christian, prophesied, cast out devils, wonderful works?

"I Never Knew You" Never Sealed

Matthew 7:21-23KJV
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

And,,,I know you prefer to remain in ignorance of the scriptures:
BUT

° Find out what being sealed in the Holy Spirit really means.
You'll have to study some church history for this.
Gemini may be of help to you,,,,since even IT knows what it means.

° Assuming you have no access to either books or the internet: (let's make it simple)
A seal can be broken.
YOU break the seal...
NOT GOD.

 

[GodsGrace]

1.) God's words below teach that a believer is sealed by the Holy Spirit until the last day of redemption

2.) God's words below teach that once a believer is in the Father's hand he receives eternal life, being unable to be removed from the Fathers hand

The scripture below isn't contradictory with God's entire words found in my Holy Bible, it's that simple, Eternal Security is a Biblical "Fact"

(Eternal Security)

Ephesians 1:13-14KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

John 10:26-30KJV
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

How do you square your verses with the following:

Luke 15:24
24for this son of mine was dead and has come to life again;

°come to life AGAIN
°AGAIN

What does AGAIN mean?
This iis what it means:

The son was
SAVED
LOST
SAVED AGAIN


Jesus said one could BELIEVE FOR A WHILE.


Luke 8:13
13“Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away.


° They believe for a while.
Believers are saved.
° They fall away --- falling away is possible --- Jesus said so.

Your problem is your looking at the person who is a "False Christian", they were never sealed by God the Holy Spirit, they had all the outward appearance of a Christian, prophesied, cast out devils, wonderful works?

"I Never Knew You" Never Sealed

Matthew 7:21-23KJV
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Thank you for also posting WHY Jesus never knew them.

Matthew 7.23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus will not recognize workers of iniquity.
What are workers of iniquity?

They are the lawless.
Those that do not follow the laws/commandments.

They do not OBEY God.
They are lawless...


The warnings are to BELIEVERS.
Atheist require no warnings.
FALSE BELIEVERS require no warnings.


Here are warnings to believers:


Colossians 1:21-23
21And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds,

22yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach—

23if indeed you continue in the faith


Please note:

° They were formerly alienated
° They are reconciled through Christ
° They will be presented to God blameless
° IF they CONTINUE in the faith.


That pesky IF word is all over the NT.
The idea of persevering till the end is all over the NT.

Why do some ignore scripture that is written to safeguard our salvation?


Hebrews 3.14
14For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end,


° We are partakers of Christ

IF

° We hold fast our assurance till the end.


Unbelievers are NOT PARTAKERS OF CHRIST.
Unbelievers are NOT RECONCILED THROUGH CHRIST.


You are not following the teachings of the NT.

 

[Grailhunter]

Good work GH!

I find it unbelievable how some risk their very souls
by not reading the entire NT.

And if I am to err....
I will do so on the side of safety!

Salutations GodsGrace. How is Tuscany?
I am now toothless. All teeth pulled today. The shots were more painful than the extractions.
My ministry focuses on three things....
1. The message of salvation.
2. The journey to Heaven.
3. False beliefs.

I have studied all over the world and I have had conversations that would blow your mind.
The Gospel message is so simple and could save so many people that Satan has to work double hard to confuse the message of salvation.
People wanting to be saved but Satan sends his agents to tell people that they can sin all they want and get to Heaven as long as they believe in Yeshua. Satan does a dance as these people type their demonic message....You're sealed you can sin all you want and still go to Heaven.

Be good and do good.
The Johnny Appleseed of Truth.

 

[PeterAndroz]

(O)nce (S)ealed (A)lways (S)ealed has absolutely nothing to do with the false teachings of Universalism

You deny God's words below regarding (Eternal Security)

1.) You falsely believe that a Holy Spirit sealed believer isn't sealed until the day of redemption

2.) You falsely believe that a sealed believer can be taken out of God's hand

Conclusion: Your belief is "False", (O)nce (S)ealed (A)lways (S)ealed is a "Biblical Fact" that you openly deny "Sad"!

(Eternal Security)

Ephesians 1:13-14KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

John 10:26-30KJV
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

Predestination is a "Biblical Fact" God has made vessels to dishonour and honour

"He Had Afore Prepared Unto Glory" Predestination "Fact" and your not going to change God's words below, those sealed by God the Holy Spirit are the (Called, Justified, Glorified) by God's predestination in foreknowledge, it's that simple

Romans 9:21-23KJV
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

You fail to recognize the fact of scripture and predestination, God has foreknowledge of all who will be glorified, simple, clear, easy to understand

Foreknowledge, Predestination

Called, Justified, Glorified

Romans 8:28-30KJV
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

[PeterAndroz]

Predestination is a "Biblical Fact" God has made vessels to dishonour and honour

"He Had Afore Prepared Unto Glory" Predestination "Fact" and your not going to change God's words below, those sealed by God the Holy Spirit are the (Called, Justified, Glorified) by God's predestination in foreknowledge, it's that simple

Romans 9:21-23KJV
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

You fail to recognize the fact of scripture and predestination, God has foreknowledge of all who will be glorified, simple, clear, easy to understand

Foreknowledge, Predestination

Called, Justified, Glorified

Romans 8:28-30KJV
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

""Predestination is a "Biblical Fact" God has made vessels to dishonour and honour"""
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate
..
Yes, predestinate based on foreknowledge
eg in advance (foreknowledge) GOD knew who would not be saved but not randomly PREchose who would be not be saved.
That makes sense & is FAIR since GOD desires ALL to be saved 1 Tim 2:4, 2 Pet 3:9 yet leaves it up to us whether we believe or not.

 

[Lambano]

If any system can make such drastic changes....it cannot be trusted.

Yeah, how about that?