I'm a Christian and I support the legality of same-sex marriage

[Truman]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

You may disagree with me but I'll defend your right to disagree with me. Shalom.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

As I said in my OP, stealing and murder adversely affects an innocent third-party, wherein same-sex marriage only affects the same-sex couple and they enter into voluntarily.

For the record, I personally find same-sex relations to be revolting, but I also believe in the rights of others to live their lives free of me.

If you support living under a theocracy, then let me ask you a question. How would you feel if, for instance, Muslims becoming the majority and then imposing Sharia Law on all of us?

I never said I support theocracy. I said that America’s moral laws have been historically based on biblical standards.

Now I’ll ask you a question. Do you think your opinions override God’s standards? Do you understand that we will all stand before God and be judged by Him according to HIS moral standards?

God won't only judge us on whether our behavior hurt or offended others, but His judgment will be based on whether our behavior offended HIM and in the process hurt others. He is the standard of morality, of good and bad. We are not.

 

[Truman]

As I said in my OP, stealing and murder adversely affects an innocent third-party, wherein same-sex marriage only affects the same-sex couple and they enter into voluntarily.

For the record, I personally find same-sex relations to be revolting, but I also believe in the rights of others to live their lives free of me.

If you support living under a theocracy, then let me ask you a question. How would you feel if, for instance, Muslims becoming the majority and then imposing Sharia Law on all of us?

The thought of some religious zealot telling me how to live helps me to understand how a non-believer must feel at times. Freedom of how to live one's life as long as they're not hurting others is a God-given right. Gay people also need Jesus. Shalom

 

[DNB]

Freedom to choose is God given. Does that make poor choices right? Is it wise to support poor choices because one has the freedom to do so?
Homosexuality in all its various forms is a gross deviation from healthy relating and as such is destructive. The scripture deems it sin.
Supporting same sex marriages is supporting the enemy's agenda for relational breakdown both personally and societally.

Very well said!

 

[DNB]

Do you believe in individual liberty? Do you believe in separation of church and state? Opposing the legality of same-sex marriage defies both of those concepts.

Non sequitor!

 

[K9Buck]

Do you think your opinions override God’s standards?

The Christian God or the Muslim God or the Buddhist God, etc.?

 

[K9Buck]

Non sequitor!

No, it's a salient point.

Is it moral to get drunk? Is it moral to have pre-marital sex? Should the U.S. make those behaviors illegal?

 

[K9Buck]

Do you understand that we will all stand before God and be judged by Him according to HIS moral standards?

So if Islam ever became the majority in America, you would have NO PROBLEM with the government imposing Islamic law on you and everyone else, right?

 

[K9Buck]

You may disagree with me but I'll defend your right to disagree with me. Shalom.

Amen brother.

 

[K9Buck]

You can do whatever you want to, I guess. But that doesn't mean gays won't burn in Hell.

I'm a Christian, heterosexual, married man with two children. I don't support homosexual behavior just like I don't support jumping out of perfectly good airplanes. I simply don't believe that I should have the power to dictate to another as to how they live their lives.

Do you remember wherein Jesus commanded us to, through the force of government, make all immoral behavior illegal? Yea, me neither.

 

[DNB]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

ok, I think that I kind of see your point now, after reading a few more of your comments.
I've often said that God does not intervene when man is about to commit a sin (rape, kidnap, genocide, etc..), because at what point does the intervention stop, eg; stealing, verbal abuse, impatience, a dirty thought, ...? Love and devotion to God must be free.
But, this is God's universe, not the governments. The government has a need to recognize God's wisdom, jurisprudence, sovereignty and supremacy, despite the fact that they never will. Meaning, God's laws still hold at any level, or rather, they are always the right judgement, adhered to or not. God does not prohibit capriciously, it is always in the best interest of others.

Homosexuality and overt perversions affects everybody. Kids are influenced, the impressionable always try to emulate the latest trend. Perversions and vices typically escalate in frequency or degree, and are insatiable. Bad behaviour invariably destroys good character, and typically, takes others with them. It is a governments job to recognize God's supremacy, and to protect their citizens from all forms of threats, physical and mental.

 

[kcnalp]

The thought of some religious zealot telling me how to live helps me to understand how a non-believer must feel at times. Freedom of how to live one's life as long as they're not hurting others is a God-given right. Gay people also need Jesus. Shalom

The Bible tells us how to live.

I'm a Christian, heterosexual, married man with two children. I don't support homosexual behavior just like I don't support jumping out of perfectly good airplanes. I simply don't believe that I should have the power to dictate to another as to how they live their lives.

Do you remember wherein Jesus commanded us to, through the force of government, make all immoral behavior illegal? Yea, me neither.

I guess you should take it up with Jesus. He's the One who said "Homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God".

 

[K9Buck]

...just because two people are consenting does not make something moral in the eyes of God...

I don't want to sound crass my brother, but that is not a point in dispute.

 

[K9Buck]

...Jesus. He's the One who said "Homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God".

Can you please cite the verse wherein Jesus made that statement? Thanks.

 

[DNB]

No, it's a salient point.

Is it moral to get drunk? Is it moral to have pre-marital sex? Should the U.S. make those behaviors illegal?

I know what you mean but, God would have in Eden, as Moses would have to some degree in Canaan.

 

[K9Buck]

Do you think there may be those who are glad someone stopped them?

Like jumping off a high building? Of course I would be glad that someone would stop them.

 

[kcnalp]

Can you please cite the verse wherein Jesus made that statement? Thanks.

1 Corinthians 6:9 (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

 

[K9Buck]

I know what you mean but, God would have in Eden, as Moses would have to some degree in Canaan.

We may have to agree to disagree. I take it that, it's your view that, the U.S. should govern based on the Christian bible, correct?

Do you support making all immoral behavior illegal or just same-sex marriage?

 

[K9Buck]

1 Corinthians 6:9 (NKJV)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

Thanks. Wasn't it Paul that said that?

 

[kcnalp]

Thanks. Wasn't it Paul that said that?

Well yeah, but it's all the Word of Jesus / God.