In Defense of OSAS – Why "Once Saved, Always Saved" Is the Heart of the Gospel

[Dan Clarkston]

Yeah, Got Questions.org is the go to website to learn heresy!

 

[mailmandan]

I read Godquestions.org statement of faith and to sum it up they believe the Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired, infallible, and authoritative Word of God (Matthew 5:18; 2 Timothy 3:16-17).

They believe in one God, who is Creator of all (Deuteronomy 6:4; Colossians 1:16), who has revealed Himself in three distinct Persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (2 Corinthians 13:14).

They believe in the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. He is God incarnate, God in human form, the express image of the Father, who, without ceasing to be God, became man in order that He might demonstrate who God is and provide the means of salvation for humanity (Matthew 1:21; John 1:18; Colossians 1:15).

They believe that Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit and was born of the virgin Mary (Matthew 1:23); that He is truly fully God and truly fully man (John 1:1,14); that He lived a perfect, sinless life (1 John 3:5); that all His teachings are true (John 14:6).

They believe that the Lord Jesus Christ ascended to heaven in His glorified body (Acts 1:9-10) and is now seated at the right hand of God as our High Priest and Advocate (Romans 8:34; Hebrews 7:25). They also believe in the second coming of Christ. (Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).

They believe in the deity and personality of the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4). He regenerates sinners (Titus 3:5) and indwells believers (Romans 8:9).

They believe that humanity came into existence by direct creation of God and that humanity is uniquely made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:26-27).

They believe that salvation is a gift of God’s grace through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-9).

They believe that the Church, the Body of Christ, is a spiritual organism made up of all believers of this present age (1 Corinthians 12:12-14; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 1:22-23, 5:25-27).

DOES ANYONE ELSE CONSIDER THAT TO BE HERESY?

 

[pandaflower]

I read Godquestions.org statement of faith and to sum it up they believe the Bible, comprised of the Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired, infallible, and authoritative Word of God (Matthew 5:18; 2 Timothy 3:16-17).

They believe in one God, who is Creator of all (Deuteronomy 6:4; Colossians 1:16), who has revealed Himself in three distinct Persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (2 Corinthians 13:14).

They believe in the deity of the Lord Jesus Christ. He is God incarnate, God in human form, the express image of the Father, who, without ceasing to be God, became man in order that He might demonstrate who God is and provide the means of salvation for humanity (Matthew 1:21; John 1:18; Colossians 1:15).

They believe that Jesus Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit and was born of the virgin Mary (Matthew 1:23); that He is truly fully God and truly fully man (John 1:1,14); that He lived a perfect, sinless life (1 John 3:5); that all His teachings are true (John 14:6).

They believe that the Lord Jesus Christ ascended to heaven in His glorified body (Acts 1:9-10) and is now seated at the right hand of God as our High Priest and Advocate (Romans 8:34; Hebrews 7:25). They also believe in the second coming of Christ. (Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).

They believe in the deity and personality of the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4). He regenerates sinners (Titus 3:5) and indwells believers (Romans 8:9).

They believe that humanity came into existence by direct creation of God and that humanity is uniquely made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:26-27).

They believe that salvation is a gift of God’s grace through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross (Ephesians 2:8-9).

They believe that the Church, the Body of Christ, is a spiritual organism made up of all believers of this present age (1 Corinthians 12:12-14; 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 1:22-23, 5:25-27).

DOES ANYONE ELSE CONSIDER THAT TO BE HERESY?

It isn't heresy.
To the enemies of the cross it's a threat they can't bear to face.

Empty words born from the breath of their dark father think to assail the truth of eternal security in Christ so to make it appear false if many spew the same rhetoric.
Because in those numbers they think they can lead people to believe eternal security is a lie.

They're damned.And they want everyone to feel as insecure as they are.
The idea that God will save people forever,and there's nothing they can do to change God's grace is that what reminds the Adversary his time is short.

He knows that. It is written. Which is also why his faithful work at trying to convince people the Bible isn't really God's words, or to be believed or trusted.

They're empty and lost.
And time is short.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

 

[Dan Clarkston]

 

[Dan Clarkston]

 

[Dan Clarkston]

 

[mailmandan]

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Hilarious.... those that cannot prove their false doctrine call those calling them out for their false doctrine "trolls"

 

[mailmandan]

I already proved my doctrine to be true in post #214 and #217. You have no proper refutation, only cherry picked pet verses taken out of context, so you resort to trolling instead, which is what you do best.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I already proved my doctrine to be true

No, you twisted scripture and claimed other scripture was false proving you're ignorant of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now, run along and go play with your heretic friends but be sure to be home for supper!

 

[mailmandan]

No, you twisted scripture and claimed other scripture was false proving you're ignorant of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now, run along and go play with your heretic friends but be sure to be home for supper! View attachment 70086

That is exactly what a childish troll would say and even worse you are a FALSE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN.

BTW: The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believes.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.

 

[pandaflower]

View attachment 70082

Does that have a sprayer lock-on function? Seriously.

 

[JLB]

The doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS) is

… a doctrine of demons that is not found in scripture.


Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. 1 Timothy 4:1


People who depart from the faith are no longer saved.


Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. 1 John 3:15


If we begin to hate a brother or sister in Christ, we don't have eternal life remaining in us.

 

[JLB]

It isn't heresy.
To the enemies of the cross it's a threat they can't bear to face.

Empty words born from the breath of their dark father think to assail the truth of eternal security in Christ so to make it appear false if many spew the same rhetoric.
Because in those numbers they think they can lead people to believe eternal security is a lie.

They're damned.And they want everyone to feel as insecure as they are.
The idea that God will save people forever,and there's nothing they can do to change God's grace is that what reminds the Adversary his time is short.

He knows that. It is written. Which is also why his faithful work at trying to convince people the Bible isn't really God's words, or to be believed or trusted.

They're empty and lost.
And time is short.

Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
1 John 3:15


Do you believe a brother who begins to hate his brother still has eternal life remaining in him?

 

[mailmandan]

Those that are peddling OSAS heresy aren't brethren... they are mouth pieces for satan.

And of course you people ignore the rest of the Word of God... you be cherry pickers who only believe a hand full of happy verses and consider everything else in God's Word concerning salvation to be lies which is par for course since OSAS is a doctrine that came from the father of lies
Maybe someday you'll start accepting all that the Lord has to say concerning salvation and become a real Christian! View attachment 70122

Project much? Like I said. You are a FALSE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN. You are not the judge of the universe and you are certainly not my judge.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Do you believe a brother who begins to hate his brother still has eternal life remaining in him?

Well, the enjoy the teachings of John Calvin who allowed his hate turn in to actually ordering the murder of people that did not agree with John Calvin's fake "gospel"

I've has numerous calvinists try to justify the murder John Calvin was involved with so these people are capable of not only the sin of hating believers.... they are capable of actually committing murder and claiming it was God's will that they do murder.

And the catholics are the same as they have killed many people that refused to follow their false doctrine and they believe killing these was justified before the Lord.

Both of these groups are following the god of this world (the devil), to the "god" they follow is all good with murder because the devil is a murderer.

 

[pandaflower]

Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
1 John 3:15


Do you believe a brother who begins to hate his brother still has eternal life remaining in him?

Satanic Trolls are not the sister or brother of any Christian.

Those who willfully corrupt the teachings of Jesus to confuse members of his church, or by implication bear the intent to call Jesus and his words fraud,are not the sister or brother of any Christian.

If we are to love the enemies of Christ,then we should start with Satan.
Sound reasonable?
No.
Exactly.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

If we are to love the enemies of Christ,then we should start with Satan.

So you be all about forgiving and loving satan?

Jesus be hatin satan

 

[Michiah-Imla]

If we are to love the enemies of Christ,then we should start with Satan