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[INTELLIGENT DESIGN | ID]
First question. Given the context of Intelligent Design, as experienced, it appears to hold that Only God created life (living beings, that from plants, animals, to humans, who claim to be ones with The Spirit), and did so Directly at His Hand, and that life forms cannot otherwise arise from non living matter, and, moreso, that complexity cannot arise from simplicity among its strongest statements, thus, requiring His Direct Hand to explain and prove in Faith, of Faith. What are the Inspired Thoughts, that assure us that living material beings, among [Zoe, animals], [Nephesh, breathing life], [Awdam, the body, blood, and spirit human], cannot ever arise from the simple basic elements, without God's Hand being present, to stir the material elements, above and beyond the powers of physics that are weak, for that is often claimed to be the mere PanTheism of matter, with the PanTheists finding God being claimed found in particles, atoms, stars, planets, air, water, rocks, flowers, animals, humans, machines, and so forth, akin to God being made equal to merely photons, gravity, nuclear forces, and kinetic energy, as being The Living Word and Spirit of life, de facto.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 001 (objects, elements, molecules) | NDS001]
Can someone address these supports for Natural Design, I shall enumerate? Take the stars and planets. The presumed data shows the early universe with a simple even dsitribution of hot dominant Hydrogen and lesser Helium, that gravity then naturally took instabilities of density, and in feedback of these natural forces, built the stars, which are small point droplets of fusion supported gas lost in the vastness of space, somewhat like finding a swiss watch in an empty field the size of earth's orbit in coarse analogy, that is built from simplicity. A very swiss watch like star, with an array of likewise swiss watch like complex elements, like 92U238, which contain 92 protons, 146 neutrons, and 92 electrons in 19-odd delicate electron shells, from mere H and He simplicity. And the fusion destabilization in fuel consumption, produces a series of supernovas in time space, that enrich the increasingly complex elements, and produce the planets in similar gravitational design, producing tiny spherical objects in the vastness of space, like another swiss watch coming from nothing at all as Fundamentalists have said at times, but was from mere chaos and simple disorder. Plus, we see, now having these very complex elements being produced from mere simple elements, using pure physics, that we next have the formation of complex molecules from simple basic elements, using the electromagnetic force, forming water, ammonia, methane, some basic amino acids, and a few thousands of complex minerals and alloys of metals, as well as radioactive nuclear element metals and its molecular compounds.
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What can possibly explain this example of complexity Naturally arising from simplicity, in numeros levels and steps of hierarchy, that Intelligent Design denies vehemently, in some circles of Faith-full Christians of The Word, with the Veil of Division Rented, by those with a voice of Revelation, and deny any mere Traditions of Men making Null and Void God's Word?
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 002 (complex molecule complex feedback) | NDS002]
Likewise, can someone address these further supports for Natural Design? With a solar system, containing power from the sun, and a planet with thousands of molecules floating around in a liquid phase of matter most readily, with solar power cycles and numerous environments mixing, the nature of chemistry contains an idea of Combinatorial Chemistry, inwhich the array of molecules can attempt combination reactions, in a system of exponential feedback. For example, say you have an ocean with 16 molecules. There are 2^16 possible molecule combination reactions. If only 0.1% of these initial combinations actually produce new molecules, that produces 65 new molecules that did not exist before. Now, after some time, we would have 81 molecules. With that, in feedback, we would have 2^81 possible molecule combinations. If even 0.000001% of those more complex molecule combinations produce new molecule reactions, we would have 2.4*10^18 new molecules that did not exist before.
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This is also Fundamentally Inexplicable, for we now have numerous complex compounded molecular species arising from a lower degree of simplicity. All this, even though Russian Scientist Alexander Oparin, described much the same issue, 100 years ago, about 1910, for humans to study over three generations.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 003 (extended object precipitates) | NDS003]
Furthermore, with numerous complex molecules available in this exceedingly complex ocean that arose from simplicity, under san PanTheist natural physcis, we start to form bodies of matter. Glue like molecular species would adhere to stones and sand in ocean beaches and down by the river sides. Waves would constantly smash and reform these compounds. Likewise, the first forms of polymeric molecules could form, in chains and precipitates and solutions. These would produce the foundation for a kind of digital chemistry, based on naturally numbered numerical molecular species. The glues, precipitates, lipids, slimes, and other molecular species of the water, would form increasingly durable bodies of matter on stones and sand, for the simple molecules would get recycled, and the durable fittest species of molecules would stick together in these bodies of matter, compared to less fit material body molecular complexes, in continuing Combinatorial Chemistry development in an environment far from equilibrium, in molecular and body survival of the fittest and fluid.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 004 (extended object tissues) | NDS004]
As extended material bodies continue to evolve, there would arise increasingly reactive mixes adapted to their environments. Some would reside in niches of rocks, like future limpets. Some would bind rocks and sand together, self sustainignly. Some would form freely floating bodies in sponge and nugget like bodies of matter. Some would precipitate calcium or silicon that support themselves against the agitations of time like proto-corals or proto-stromatolites. Some would even form reactions that can swell and shrink, accoring to environmental effects, like a chunk of proto-starfish materials, or autonomous reaction motions according to environment effects. And further in time, we would see tissue like materials form, with a core sustaining material, and layers of outer reactive interactive bodies of matter, like a proto-skin or proto-meat.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 005 (proto-life reaction complexity systems) | NDS005]
And as these extended bodies of matter form, the digital chemistries and nodes of reaction systems within the fittest surviving matters, that special systems would form. Some would capture sunlight in the daytime, and some would capture energy in sugar like molecules, while others would consume the energy during the nighttime reactions, in a model of proto-photo-synthesis. That first form of energy locking in a Combinatorial Chemistry proto-photo-synthesis reaction network, could alter the atmosphere to become oxygen rich, because it was the natural waste product of a carbon rich ocean, and carbon dioxide reduction in that synthesis, natural in the lowest energy fittest sugar locking mechanism. Likewise, all other Combinatorial Chemistry reaction system modes would follow along, in adaptation to the atmosphere, from this backbone of proto-photo-synthesis which fuels the entire capture of sunlight system. Other molecular systems could also form, that consume products of the plant like extended molecular bodies, like proto-animal reaction systems, and lichen like proto fungal-algal reaction systems, within the greater natural Combinatorial Chemistry. And some reactions could form reaction nodes like proto-bacterial, and proto-eukaryotic lifeforms, and extended body feedback reaction systems could produce fractal like extended bodies for proto-sea-urchin, and proto-starfish like objects. All the time, combinatorial extended body material interactions would occur, exploring various cells, mats, webs, body types, shells, sponges, stromatolites, and so forth, like we see in Cambrian Explosion type evidence, as increasingly complex reaction systems, shape shifting controls, and material combinations are refined in hundreds of thousands of years of combinatorial explorations of analog matter.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 006 (intersection with strong digital RNA / DNA C.C.) | NDS006]
And, all of the time, an increasing complexity is ever arising, from many steps and levels of hierarchies of simpler forms of matters, with natural physics, Combinatorial Chemistry, evolution, and not an Unmistakeable Intelligent Design, except in some humans of Blind Faith to Traditions of Men, that appear to make Null and Void with neither Response Ability nor Account Ability, to what I am trying of a Judge Meant Dei, and The Word of God. And as we know from evidence, there eventually arises an Evolution of RNA / DNA strong digital chemistry and cellular programs, that develop in mere stages of additional complexity arising, from what is always the simpler molecular reaction network of a proto-form of life, in a symbiotic relation, as modern life forms evolve from the simpler durable reaction material bodies, that Combinatorial Chemistry found, naturally, in a racist Darwinian survival of more fit species of compound bodies, that the RNA / DNA / cellular took over in imbued merging with the same naturally fit forms of raw Combinatorial Chemistry networks of the already existing extended body forms. Also, the modern example of RNA / DNA codes show a natural stochastic error protection resilience, that can be based on the very Combinatorial Chemistry that gave rise to a robust statistic error correcting code, as a veritable living fossil remain of the original early Combinatorial Chemistry soup's nature, recorded in those frequencies and statistics contained within the modern genomes, that became nearly frozen in that state, with the advent of the synthesis of all these components in cellular and multicellular lifeforms, that can only vary much more slowly than a RNA / DNA lacking raw Combinatorial Chemistry, through the mechanism of that reproduction method in Digitally Encoded Descent.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 007 (modern human descent) | NDS007]
The example of primate and human DNA that has been decoded, appears to show a chromosome by chromosome, chromosome paragraph by chromosome paragraph, identical architecture, and even a fusion of two primate chromosomes into one chromosome of fitly matched continuity like the coast of the americas with the coasts of Europe and Africa across the Atlantic. Such a high quality of match in coarse to fine resolution architecture, seems to show a slow conservative code inheritance, in Biblical Kind from Kind form, for why would God take a primate's code, to make a souped up human model, when All Things Are Possible with God, and God could have written a very different, but functionally identical genome code, that would not have proven God, for Fundamentalist Extreme Conspiracists could have called humans a specie alien to earth, and scientists could have said it was impossible to determine how humans arose, and Christians could have said that it implies that God created humans. But it all appears quite natural, in Darwinian Racists Species Descent through Genetic Inheritance.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 008 (odd intelligent design) | NDS008]
Finally, we see a very peculiar God, who chooses to design species like, air breathing whale and dolphin mammals with mammal skeletal formula, air breathing mammals of sea lions similarly skeletonized, aquatic birds like penguins, flying mammals like bats, aquatic reptiles like Galapagos Iguana, and so forth. Why would an Intelligent Design God of Fundamental Chistianity, create such peculiar designs to author confusion, that so resembles Darwinian Evolution in disguised form? If land mammals and air birds were meant to swim, he would have given them all fins and flippers, no? A God of confused Revelation, who also Intelligently Designed The Satan to come disguised as Jesus, with an apostacy, and Satan's followers also disguised, saying, Lo, Christ is here, or Lo, Christ is there, and are told by Christ to believe them not, all so the Loving God can blind them so they might believe the lie, and be damned by God, as II Thessalonians outlines, and The Gospels say on The Apocalypse of God, by the Satan standing where he ought not in Jerusalem, as the abomination of desolation, that God fully Intelligently Designed Inerrantly and Infallably for His Pleasure. All more akin to God over primates, who are strident in Faith in the Traditions of Men, who only make God's Word Null and Void, only in teaching Milk, and unsuitable for Strong Meat.
First question. Given the context of Intelligent Design, as experienced, it appears to hold that Only God created life (living beings, that from plants, animals, to humans, who claim to be ones with The Spirit), and did so Directly at His Hand, and that life forms cannot otherwise arise from non living matter, and, moreso, that complexity cannot arise from simplicity among its strongest statements, thus, requiring His Direct Hand to explain and prove in Faith, of Faith. What are the Inspired Thoughts, that assure us that living material beings, among [Zoe, animals], [Nephesh, breathing life], [Awdam, the body, blood, and spirit human], cannot ever arise from the simple basic elements, without God's Hand being present, to stir the material elements, above and beyond the powers of physics that are weak, for that is often claimed to be the mere PanTheism of matter, with the PanTheists finding God being claimed found in particles, atoms, stars, planets, air, water, rocks, flowers, animals, humans, machines, and so forth, akin to God being made equal to merely photons, gravity, nuclear forces, and kinetic energy, as being The Living Word and Spirit of life, de facto.
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 001 (objects, elements, molecules) | NDS001]
Can someone address these supports for Natural Design, I shall enumerate? Take the stars and planets. The presumed data shows the early universe with a simple even dsitribution of hot dominant Hydrogen and lesser Helium, that gravity then naturally took instabilities of density, and in feedback of these natural forces, built the stars, which are small point droplets of fusion supported gas lost in the vastness of space, somewhat like finding a swiss watch in an empty field the size of earth's orbit in coarse analogy, that is built from simplicity. A very swiss watch like star, with an array of likewise swiss watch like complex elements, like 92U238, which contain 92 protons, 146 neutrons, and 92 electrons in 19-odd delicate electron shells, from mere H and He simplicity. And the fusion destabilization in fuel consumption, produces a series of supernovas in time space, that enrich the increasingly complex elements, and produce the planets in similar gravitational design, producing tiny spherical objects in the vastness of space, like another swiss watch coming from nothing at all as Fundamentalists have said at times, but was from mere chaos and simple disorder. Plus, we see, now having these very complex elements being produced from mere simple elements, using pure physics, that we next have the formation of complex molecules from simple basic elements, using the electromagnetic force, forming water, ammonia, methane, some basic amino acids, and a few thousands of complex minerals and alloys of metals, as well as radioactive nuclear element metals and its molecular compounds.
=
What can possibly explain this example of complexity Naturally arising from simplicity, in numeros levels and steps of hierarchy, that Intelligent Design denies vehemently, in some circles of Faith-full Christians of The Word, with the Veil of Division Rented, by those with a voice of Revelation, and deny any mere Traditions of Men making Null and Void God's Word?
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[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 002 (complex molecule complex feedback) | NDS002]
Likewise, can someone address these further supports for Natural Design? With a solar system, containing power from the sun, and a planet with thousands of molecules floating around in a liquid phase of matter most readily, with solar power cycles and numerous environments mixing, the nature of chemistry contains an idea of Combinatorial Chemistry, inwhich the array of molecules can attempt combination reactions, in a system of exponential feedback. For example, say you have an ocean with 16 molecules. There are 2^16 possible molecule combination reactions. If only 0.1% of these initial combinations actually produce new molecules, that produces 65 new molecules that did not exist before. Now, after some time, we would have 81 molecules. With that, in feedback, we would have 2^81 possible molecule combinations. If even 0.000001% of those more complex molecule combinations produce new molecule reactions, we would have 2.4*10^18 new molecules that did not exist before.
=
This is also Fundamentally Inexplicable, for we now have numerous complex compounded molecular species arising from a lower degree of simplicity. All this, even though Russian Scientist Alexander Oparin, described much the same issue, 100 years ago, about 1910, for humans to study over three generations.
=
[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 003 (extended object precipitates) | NDS003]
Furthermore, with numerous complex molecules available in this exceedingly complex ocean that arose from simplicity, under san PanTheist natural physcis, we start to form bodies of matter. Glue like molecular species would adhere to stones and sand in ocean beaches and down by the river sides. Waves would constantly smash and reform these compounds. Likewise, the first forms of polymeric molecules could form, in chains and precipitates and solutions. These would produce the foundation for a kind of digital chemistry, based on naturally numbered numerical molecular species. The glues, precipitates, lipids, slimes, and other molecular species of the water, would form increasingly durable bodies of matter on stones and sand, for the simple molecules would get recycled, and the durable fittest species of molecules would stick together in these bodies of matter, compared to less fit material body molecular complexes, in continuing Combinatorial Chemistry development in an environment far from equilibrium, in molecular and body survival of the fittest and fluid.
=
[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 004 (extended object tissues) | NDS004]
As extended material bodies continue to evolve, there would arise increasingly reactive mixes adapted to their environments. Some would reside in niches of rocks, like future limpets. Some would bind rocks and sand together, self sustainignly. Some would form freely floating bodies in sponge and nugget like bodies of matter. Some would precipitate calcium or silicon that support themselves against the agitations of time like proto-corals or proto-stromatolites. Some would even form reactions that can swell and shrink, accoring to environmental effects, like a chunk of proto-starfish materials, or autonomous reaction motions according to environment effects. And further in time, we would see tissue like materials form, with a core sustaining material, and layers of outer reactive interactive bodies of matter, like a proto-skin or proto-meat.
=
[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 005 (proto-life reaction complexity systems) | NDS005]
And as these extended bodies of matter form, the digital chemistries and nodes of reaction systems within the fittest surviving matters, that special systems would form. Some would capture sunlight in the daytime, and some would capture energy in sugar like molecules, while others would consume the energy during the nighttime reactions, in a model of proto-photo-synthesis. That first form of energy locking in a Combinatorial Chemistry proto-photo-synthesis reaction network, could alter the atmosphere to become oxygen rich, because it was the natural waste product of a carbon rich ocean, and carbon dioxide reduction in that synthesis, natural in the lowest energy fittest sugar locking mechanism. Likewise, all other Combinatorial Chemistry reaction system modes would follow along, in adaptation to the atmosphere, from this backbone of proto-photo-synthesis which fuels the entire capture of sunlight system. Other molecular systems could also form, that consume products of the plant like extended molecular bodies, like proto-animal reaction systems, and lichen like proto fungal-algal reaction systems, within the greater natural Combinatorial Chemistry. And some reactions could form reaction nodes like proto-bacterial, and proto-eukaryotic lifeforms, and extended body feedback reaction systems could produce fractal like extended bodies for proto-sea-urchin, and proto-starfish like objects. All the time, combinatorial extended body material interactions would occur, exploring various cells, mats, webs, body types, shells, sponges, stromatolites, and so forth, like we see in Cambrian Explosion type evidence, as increasingly complex reaction systems, shape shifting controls, and material combinations are refined in hundreds of thousands of years of combinatorial explorations of analog matter.
=
[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 006 (intersection with strong digital RNA / DNA C.C.) | NDS006]
And, all of the time, an increasing complexity is ever arising, from many steps and levels of hierarchies of simpler forms of matters, with natural physics, Combinatorial Chemistry, evolution, and not an Unmistakeable Intelligent Design, except in some humans of Blind Faith to Traditions of Men, that appear to make Null and Void with neither Response Ability nor Account Ability, to what I am trying of a Judge Meant Dei, and The Word of God. And as we know from evidence, there eventually arises an Evolution of RNA / DNA strong digital chemistry and cellular programs, that develop in mere stages of additional complexity arising, from what is always the simpler molecular reaction network of a proto-form of life, in a symbiotic relation, as modern life forms evolve from the simpler durable reaction material bodies, that Combinatorial Chemistry found, naturally, in a racist Darwinian survival of more fit species of compound bodies, that the RNA / DNA / cellular took over in imbued merging with the same naturally fit forms of raw Combinatorial Chemistry networks of the already existing extended body forms. Also, the modern example of RNA / DNA codes show a natural stochastic error protection resilience, that can be based on the very Combinatorial Chemistry that gave rise to a robust statistic error correcting code, as a veritable living fossil remain of the original early Combinatorial Chemistry soup's nature, recorded in those frequencies and statistics contained within the modern genomes, that became nearly frozen in that state, with the advent of the synthesis of all these components in cellular and multicellular lifeforms, that can only vary much more slowly than a RNA / DNA lacking raw Combinatorial Chemistry, through the mechanism of that reproduction method in Digitally Encoded Descent.
=
[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 007 (modern human descent) | NDS007]
The example of primate and human DNA that has been decoded, appears to show a chromosome by chromosome, chromosome paragraph by chromosome paragraph, identical architecture, and even a fusion of two primate chromosomes into one chromosome of fitly matched continuity like the coast of the americas with the coasts of Europe and Africa across the Atlantic. Such a high quality of match in coarse to fine resolution architecture, seems to show a slow conservative code inheritance, in Biblical Kind from Kind form, for why would God take a primate's code, to make a souped up human model, when All Things Are Possible with God, and God could have written a very different, but functionally identical genome code, that would not have proven God, for Fundamentalist Extreme Conspiracists could have called humans a specie alien to earth, and scientists could have said it was impossible to determine how humans arose, and Christians could have said that it implies that God created humans. But it all appears quite natural, in Darwinian Racists Species Descent through Genetic Inheritance.
=
[NATURAL DESIGN SUPPORT 008 (odd intelligent design) | NDS008]
Finally, we see a very peculiar God, who chooses to design species like, air breathing whale and dolphin mammals with mammal skeletal formula, air breathing mammals of sea lions similarly skeletonized, aquatic birds like penguins, flying mammals like bats, aquatic reptiles like Galapagos Iguana, and so forth. Why would an Intelligent Design God of Fundamental Chistianity, create such peculiar designs to author confusion, that so resembles Darwinian Evolution in disguised form? If land mammals and air birds were meant to swim, he would have given them all fins and flippers, no? A God of confused Revelation, who also Intelligently Designed The Satan to come disguised as Jesus, with an apostacy, and Satan's followers also disguised, saying, Lo, Christ is here, or Lo, Christ is there, and are told by Christ to believe them not, all so the Loving God can blind them so they might believe the lie, and be damned by God, as II Thessalonians outlines, and The Gospels say on The Apocalypse of God, by the Satan standing where he ought not in Jerusalem, as the abomination of desolation, that God fully Intelligently Designed Inerrantly and Infallably for His Pleasure. All more akin to God over primates, who are strident in Faith in the Traditions of Men, who only make God's Word Null and Void, only in teaching Milk, and unsuitable for Strong Meat.