Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

[St. SteVen]

--- PARODY TIME ---

KJO reader: This is what the Word of God says.
NIV reader: Let's compare the NIV translation.
KJO reader: WHAT! ??? That's a terrible translation!
NIV reader: Are you saying it isn't the "Word of God"?
KJO reader: The NIV left verses out of the Bible!
NIV reader: No, the NIV kept the same verse numbering system
but left out verses that didn't belong there in the first place.
KJO reader: THEY REMOVED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE !!!!
NIV reader: No, that's not what happened.
KJO reader: Yes it is what HAPPENED !!!
NIV reader: Show me one.
KJO reader: Here you go.
NIV reader: My footnote accounts for that.
KJO reader: Accounts for verses removed from the Bible? ???
NIV reader: The footnote says: It does not appear in any New Testament
manuscript prior to the end of the 6th century.
KJO reader: It's NOT the Word of God !!!!
NIV reader: Seriously?

Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

Do you do that?

 

[The Learner]

I compare many translations, word pictures in greek nt by at robertson and many other sources.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Maybe that is proof we bible readers hold allegiance to those who created the many Bible versions.

When God is the word. And in Jesus, was the word made flesh.
Jesus said God's kingdom is within. When Holy Spirit resides within us, I'd think we have access to the most accurate and reliable word of God.

Whereas, the printed word of God shows how to come into salvation, and the journey to that new covenant in both old and new testaments.

While, God's leading us from within takes us through life once we've arrived into that covenant.


Just my thoughts.

 

[JohnDB]

John 8 is a good example...

It isn't John's writing...it belongs in Mark. It is very consistent with how Mark tells stories and who knows where it goes? Even the oldest Bible and copies of Mark and John we have do not shed light on this.

 

[face2face]

--- PARODY TIME ---

KJO reader: This is what the Word of God says.
NIV reader: Let's compare the NIV translation.
KJO reader: WHAT! ??? That's a terrible translation!
NIV reader: Are you saying it isn't the "Word of God"?
KJO reader: The NIV left verses out of the Bible!
NIV reader: No, the NIV kept the same verse numbering system
but left out verses that didn't belong there in the first place.
KJO reader: THEY REMOVED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE !!!!
NIV reader: No, that's not what happened.
KJO reader: Yes it is what HAPPENED !!!
NIV reader: Show me one.
KJO reader: Here you go.
NIV reader: My footnote accounts for that.
KJO reader: Accounts for verses removed from the Bible? ???
NIV reader: The footnote says: It does not appear in any New Testament
manuscript prior to the end of the 6th century.
KJO reader: It's NOT the Word of God !!!!
NIV reader: Seriously?

Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

Do you do that?

All translations have errors and a certain bias toward trinitarian doctrine. Reader beware!

 

[Gottservant]

Amusing as that is, there is a deeper problem of people calling themselves "disciples" but they will not pray as they have been asked.

Have you prayed that you be delivered from the things to come and to stand before the Son of Man?

Getting into agreement with Jesus, will go a long way to ending disputes between believers!

 

[St. SteVen]

Getting into agreement with Jesus, will go a long way to ending disputes between believers!

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity? To end disputes?

Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of doctrinal unity?

This is a follow-up to the previous topic: Unity of the faith - at what cost? Link below. Probably the biggest roadblock to Christian doctrinal unity is holding on to the freedom we have to determine our own beliefs. Would you surrender your own beliefs in the cause of Christian doctrinal...

www.christianityboard.com

 

[Taken]

--- PARODY TIME ---

KJO reader: This is what the Word of God says.
NIV reader: Let's compare the NIV translation.
KJO reader: WHAT! ??? That's a terrible translation!
NIV reader: Are you saying it isn't the "Word of God"?
KJO reader: The NIV left verses out of the Bible!
NIV reader: No, the NIV kept the same verse numbering system
but left out verses that didn't belong there in the first place.
KJO reader: THEY REMOVED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE !!!!
NIV reader: No, that's not what happened.
KJO reader: Yes it is what HAPPENED !!!
NIV reader: Show me one.
KJO reader: Here you go.
NIV reader: My footnote accounts for that.
KJO reader: Accounts for verses removed from the Bible? ???
NIV reader: The footnote says: It does not appear in any New Testament
manuscript prior to the end of the 6th century.
KJO reader: It's NOT the Word of God !!!!
NIV reader: Seriously?

Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

Do you do that?

I have many times compared translations of particular verses…and beyond, meaning:
Breaking down the verse, point by point of
Who, What, When, Where and Why…

And once other verses reveals applicability OF the points, continue studying to discover “as the Translations Continue” “IF” they stay “ON Point” or begin to “wander OFF POINT” and “include points that do not apply…AS IF they did”.

Personally I have found the KJV to be most consistent.

 

[Wrangler]

Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

Do you do that?

Referring to the Bible as the word of God is an appeal to authority. It is reasonable to scrutinize what the Creator said - properly translated - rather than run with a bad translation. Worse, is people claiming things are in the Bible that aren't.

For instance, the KJV references dragons.
Isaiah 34:13
King James Version
13 And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.

 

[marks]

--- PARODY TIME ---

KJO reader: This is what the Word of God says.
NIV reader: Let's compare the NIV translation.
KJO reader: WHAT! ??? That's a terrible translation!
NIV reader: Are you saying it isn't the "Word of God"?
KJO reader: The NIV left verses out of the Bible!
NIV reader: No, the NIV kept the same verse numbering system
but left out verses that didn't belong there in the first place.
KJO reader: THEY REMOVED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE !!!!
NIV reader: No, that's not what happened.
KJO reader: Yes it is what HAPPENED !!!
NIV reader: Show me one.
KJO reader: Here you go.
NIV reader: My footnote accounts for that.
KJO reader: Accounts for verses removed from the Bible? ???
NIV reader: The footnote says: It does not appear in any New Testament
manuscript prior to the end of the 6th century.
KJO reader: It's NOT the Word of God !!!!
NIV reader: Seriously?

Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

Do you do that?

I'm not "King James Only". Concerning the NIV, I compare the NT passages to the Greek texts, which is why I never use the NIV. There are many places where it changes words to use words not supported in the actual text, thereby replacing translation with interpretation.

Interestingly, the King James translators included in their preface that even the "meanest" translation, if done by actual translators, is still the Word of God. Just the same, there are in fact more and less accurate versions. We do well to know what they are.

Much love!

 

[St. SteVen]

Personally I have found the KJV to be most consistent.

What does that mean?
It aligns with YOUR doctrine?

 

[Pierac]

Sometimes this concept of agency has caused the translators of our Bible difficulties. The Hebrew word for “God”(elohim) has a wide range of meanings. Depending on context, it can mean the Supreme Deity, or “a god” or “gods” or even “angels” or human “judges.” This difficulty is reflected in verses like Exodus 21:6

The KJV reads… “Then his master shall bring him unto the judges;”

The NIV reads… “then his master must take him before the judges.”

But

The NASB reads… “then his master shall bring him to God”

So too the RSV… “then his master shall bring him to God”

Clearly, because the judges of Israel represented God as His agents, they are called “God,” elohim. As the slave gave his vow before these representatives of God, he was in fact making a binding vow before Jehovah. The agents were as God.

So Translations... kinda matter if you don't have the tools to compare...

BTY.... I never said which Bible was correct.... So Let's shut it down before it begins...

Paul

 

[marks]

For instance, the KJV references dragons.
Isaiah 34:13
King James Version
13 And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.

So did Marco Polo in his travels to China. So what? Call them dragons, call them dinosaurs (the modern word for them), do you not believe in dragons/dinosaurs?

BTW . . . the Bible IS authoratative, at least in my estimation!

Much love!

 

[Wrangler]

So did Marco Polo in his travels to China. So what?

Marco is not claiming to be infallible.

 

[marks]

Marco is not claiming to be infallible.

The point is that he just wrote down what he saw there. They had dragons pulling the imperial chariot. Do you believe in dinosaurs? Or only "millions and millions of years ago"?

Much love!

 

[Wrangler]

The point is that he just wrote down what he saw there.

That’s not the point; the point is the KJV is the worst translation available in English today.

 

[marks]

That’s not the point; the point is the KJV is the worst translation available in English today.

No, that IS the point. You say the KJV is the worst translation because it says "dragons", but I say what's the problem with dragons? People have known about them for a long time. Are we moving next to unicorns? Would you have an easier time with "monohorn", which would probably me more relateable today, and also a more literal translation? But "unicorn" isn't wrong. Just like "dragon" isn't wrong. And really, who doesn't know what a dragon is?

Much love!

 

[Wrangler]

No, that IS the point. You say the KJV is the worst translation because it says "dragons"

No. That’s just one reason. If you think all translations are equal, well, bless your heart.

 

[Taken]

What does that mean?
It aligns with YOUR doctrine?

Already disclosed what that means.
“I find” the KJV most consistent in keeping “on point” applicability of who, what, when, why, where.

I spoke of my “finding”. My “personal opinion”.
I said nothing of “my Doctrine”, but CAN speak regarding “my Doctrine”.

“My Doctrine”, is “My Belief”: IS regarding “the Lord God Almighty”, (creator and maker)…
NOT the created and made human earthly people.

“My Doctrine”, IS NOT a conclusion of MY OWN ideas. “RATHER in STEAD”, My Doctrine IS (me exercising my Freewill) to:
Trust, Believe, Adopt Christ Jesus’ Doctrine.

BASIC Scriptural Doctrinal Teaching:
Jesus IS the “the TRUE Word of God”.
Christ IS the “Power of God”.

Every Word spoken BY Jesus IS Gods TRUTH..
Every Word spoken and recorded and repeated IS Jesus’ Doctrine and Jesus’ Word adopted BY a human, becomes that human’s Doctrine.

Every human’s Knowledge FROM God, Understanding FROM God, Blessing FROM God, Gifts FROM God, Promises FROM God, Transformation FROM God:
IS EFFECTED and MANIFESTED;
By, Through, Of THE POWER Of God, IS Christ.


My Doctrine IS my Adoption and my Belief of Christ Jesus’ Doctrine.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Bob Estey]

--- PARODY TIME ---

KJO reader: This is what the Word of God says.
NIV reader: Let's compare the NIV translation.
KJO reader: WHAT! ??? That's a terrible translation!
NIV reader: Are you saying it isn't the "Word of God"?
KJO reader: The NIV left verses out of the Bible!
NIV reader: No, the NIV kept the same verse numbering system
but left out verses that didn't belong there in the first place.
KJO reader: THEY REMOVED VERSES FROM THE BIBLE !!!!
NIV reader: No, that's not what happened.
KJO reader: Yes it is what HAPPENED !!!
NIV reader: Show me one.
KJO reader: Here you go.
NIV reader: My footnote accounts for that.
KJO reader: Accounts for verses removed from the Bible? ???
NIV reader: The footnote says: It does not appear in any New Testament
manuscript prior to the end of the 6th century.
KJO reader: It's NOT the Word of God !!!!
NIV reader: Seriously?

Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

Do you do that?

It is my belief that the Word of God are those instances in the Bible where God or Jesus are quoted.