Not at all. But first all the Western politicians need to be sent to Siberia and settled in some gulag. I wonder how Sunak would love that. Send a letter to Putin to round up these scoundrels who are also waging a proxy war against him.
Is allowing mass immigration anti-christian?
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Human beings worldwide are expected to OBEY THE LAWS of all countries, including their own. So these are actually criminals committing the crime of illegally crossing borders. If you stole $10 from a convenience store (or an item worth $10), you would get arrested immediately. Yet these brazen law-breakers are getting royal treatment and destroying countries at the same time.
There must not be any double standards when it comes to the rule of law, but the evil politicians have created double and triple standards. They demanded that innocent law abiding citizens wear masks and get the jab or get arrested or lose their jobs and their livelihoods, but they made sure that these demands did not apply to illegal aliens. Illegals got free food, clothing, lodging, transportation, entertainment, communication, all at taxpayer expense. So don't tell us God approves of migrant invasion at the expense of law-abiding citizens.
In the case of the USA, what should have happened is that Mexico, Central America, Cuba and Venezuela should have been put on notice that every illegal alien would be deported back to their homeland AT THE EXPENSE OF THE HOME COUNTRY. And all trade, commerce, and borders would be shut down until this issue was resolved properly. The same would apply in the UK and Europe, but primarily with African countries. This would then have been upholding the laws of the land. And that is what God approves.
If someone breaks the laws, they are subject to the laws, but I see no purpose in protecting countries when the only important country, the Kingdom of God, is borderless.
BeyondET
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Problem is happening because of poverty, people go to rich countries to support their poor families back home
Whistleblower Reveals Illegal Aliens In New York City Hotels Are Having Public Sex, Drinking All Day, And Spreading Diseases
CadyandZoe
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The essential difference is loyalty and submission to the laws of the host country. Those who immigrate to another country are leaving the old country behind in order to join with and commit to the people in the new land of choice. Accordingly, immigrates submit to a legal process, which, in the United States, involves civics education and taking an oath of loyalty.
Mass migration, on the other hand, is destructive to the victim country because those who come to the victim country take no oath of loyalty and have no interest in submitting to the laws or customs of the victim country.
Godly giving is Happy, Gleeful, Giving:
Temporary Goods for the Poor in Goods, to Learn how to do For Themselves.
AND
the Permanent Word of God for the Poor in spirit, to Learn that God does For them that ARE His.
Taxation is Compelled, Threatened, Forced Giving Of Dollars.
The compelling is Permanent...Not happy, gleeful Giving.
The Doling out of collected Dollars...
* pays for A lifetime of spas, trips, credited cards, body modifications, luxury lifestyles for the collectors...
* pays for Silencing Gods Word, Anti-Godly promotions, reading/visual/verbal anti-Godly teaching, abortions, wars, drugs, needles & syringes for street Drugs, condoms, corrupt psychological education, spying on the taxpayers, oppressing the people.
Your “Feeding the Poor innocent little children” IS verbatim, the hoax catch phrase ... to get ones attention.
A starving person IS a person who is Weak, muscle depleted, thin skin draped over a visibly protruding skeleton....Not muscular, tatted, well clothed adults toting well dressed children, carrying their toys on a hard journey (while failing to provide food and drink For the journey)....giving their children a first-Hand education in How To...steal and illegally break into an others home!
Looking to be legal immigrants?
Another “catch-Line hoax”.
For 200 + years the US governing Law has provided A WAY, for foreigners to Legally BECOME a US resident and US citizen.
Your support and advocation...of Illegal activity...is neither Godly OR beneficial to every American Citizen....
It IS in FACT as Dropship implicated...an unwelcome, forced, overwhelming, Burden on the citizens.
How Dare YOU, decide Who Must take on the responsibility of another?
How Dare YOU, decide What Work Another would or would not do?
Learn the difference Between a cheerful generous giver....
And one being compelled to Give to the Illegal crook, burglar, thief.
You want to support the crook, burglar, thief....have at it...with Your dollars.
Don’t dictate Another MUST be yoked WITH YOU in your endeavors....
IOW...Stay out of my wallet...
Pooling Dollars, doling Out Dollars...
IS Not The Scriptural solution For for the Poor,
And BTW...Scripturally the Poor, begins and ends with Poor in spirit...
not Embracing Illegal activities and Supporting illegal activities with someone else’s Dollars!!
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Key words....illegal aliens
Really? You think an illegal alien is the parallel of a legal tourist?
Sounds as if you received a Public education.
Circumstances are looking pretty dismal at times, that's for sure, and it can be frustrating to see. But we must not lose sight of Who is sovereignly ruling over everything and not react in the flesh. Our nations in the west have turned their back on God to the point of often being hostile to Him now, and there is sin on the level of the hedonism and idolatry of ancient Rome, and ancient Israel, if not worse......ultimately if we lose our nation to the heathen it's because God is judging us the exact same way He judged ancient Israel when she was terribly backslidden and apostate. And remember Jesus saying to Pilate that he could do nothing except it be given him from above. Let's follow His example and keep our faith and trust in God.
Remembering why we are here, and where our true citizenship is. As hard as it is to see the direction things are moving in, we know that adverse circumstances can actually be very good spiritually for a church that has become too comfortable in this world. "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul?" He wants a bride that is ready for His return.
Remembering why we are here, and where our true citizenship is. As hard as it is to see the direction things are moving in, we know that adverse circumstances can actually be very good spiritually for a church that has become too comfortable in this world. "What does it profit a man to gain the whole world but lose his own soul?" He wants a bride that is ready for His return.
Thanks for your comment...
Don’t know you or your beliefs to recognize your difference between serious or humor.
Agreed, the main supporters of illegal immigration are godless Democrats and atheists because they think that by blindly "doing good" the universe will like them and they'll be better than Christians.
For example I heard a news report that in one US state (California?) the Dems are going round handing out drugs to homeless bums and junkies!
Also of course they promote GLBT perversion, but the Bible sums them up nicely-
"To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled" (Titus 1:15)
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BrotherDThomas
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Dropship,
1. YOUR UNSUPPORTED QUOTE: "Agreed, the main supporters of illegal immigration are godless Democrats and atheists because they think that by blindly "doing good" the universe will like them and they'll be better than Christians."
Support your claim above with actual EVIDENCE, instead of "hearsay!"
2. YOUR UNSUPPORTED QUOTE: "For example I heard a news report that in one US state (California?) the Dems are going round handing out drugs to homeless bums and junkies!
Support your claim above with actual EVIDENCE, instead of "hearsay!"
3. YOUR UNSUPPORTED QUOTE: "Also of course they promote GLBT perversion ....."
Support your claim above with actual EVIDENCE, instead of "hearsay!"
At this point, when awaiting actual supported evidence to the aforementioned quotes of yours shown above, you are guilty of the following inspired by Jesus passages herewith:
“You shall not spread a false report. You shall not join hands with a wicked man to be a malicious witness." (Exodus 23:1)
"The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps." (Proverbs 14:15)
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BrotherDThomas
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Taken,
Barring your miss-mash of horrific syntactical sentence structuring, that was hard to put into order, you are not a TRUE Christian with your propositions mentioned in your post #49, sad indeed.
You have violated so many teachings of Jesus the Christ relative to the poor and starving of His creation with your Devil Speak, that it is truly hard to accept this fact. Therefore, to save you from further embarrassment in front of the membership, I will only give you a few directly inspired by Jesus passages shown below where you are blatantly wrong in your assumptions;
"In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’” (Acts 20:35)
"What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” (James 2:14-17)
"Only, they asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do." (Galatians 2:20)
Taken, It is truly sad to watch you be so unchristian like in a Christian forum, therefore once again, you are guilty of this godly passage: "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it."
I will pray to Jesus tonight for you to have your Satanic ways removed from your mouth relative to taking care of the poor, you can thank me later..
Wrangler
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Dropship,
What a provocative thread. Thanks!
The 1st problem is many Christian pastors attempt to get the flock to abdicate their responsibility as citizens in not applying Biblical principles or guiding the flock on how to apply Scripture to issues of the day. We thus abandon the field to the enemy.
I wrote over the weekend that we are not only Christians but citizens with civic duty. Is it worse to talk this way about other human beings or kill them on sight?
The feminized, politically correct culture desires to pretend that our Lord did not have choice words for other human beings also. Jesus offended people mightily, to the point they wanted to and actually did kill him. We are far from the boldness of our Lord.
Sadly, Adam is unable to respond to the powerful verses you provided on point.
A common tactic is to sweep away your opponents support and provide your own - no matter how improperly these verses apply to the issue under discussion.
Responsible parents have no business making criminals of their children by allowing them anywhere near an international border. Responsible parents have no business allowing their kids to go into a war zone! Pretending such violation of sovereignty makes the invader the victim is rich in hypocrisy.
In high school, decades ago, I had a solution to the INVASION at the US Southern Border: militarily occupy the Rio Grande and shoot anyone crossing it. (The Soviet Union did this.)
I realized as a teen that NOT doing this shows there is no actual will to secure the southern border. I asked then, why do we even have a military if not to protect our border from invasion? Invasion. Do you get that? Not 'undocumented workers.' Not illegal immigrants. Invaders.
They are invaders precisely because they have no intention of assimilating into our limited-government culture, not be a burden on our welfare system or even speak our language! Decades later, matters are worse. The American experiment is just about over. And many are still sadly defending the means of our in-process suicide!
What a provocative thread. Thanks!
The 1st problem is many Christian pastors attempt to get the flock to abdicate their responsibility as citizens in not applying Biblical principles or guiding the flock on how to apply Scripture to issues of the day. We thus abandon the field to the enemy.Great quotes!
I wrote over the weekend that we are not only Christians but citizens with civic duty. Is it worse to talk this way about other human beings or kill them on sight?
The feminized, politically correct culture desires to pretend that our Lord did not have choice words for other human beings also. Jesus offended people mightily, to the point they wanted to and actually did kill him. We are far from the boldness of our Lord.
Argue it out with God when you meet him..
"Ungodly...These men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed.." (2 Peter 2:12)
Sadly, Adam is unable to respond to the powerful verses you provided on point.
A common tactic is to sweep away your opponents support and provide your own - no matter how improperly these verses apply to the issue under discussion.
Responsible parents have no business making criminals of their children by allowing them anywhere near an international border. Responsible parents have no business allowing their kids to go into a war zone! Pretending such violation of sovereignty makes the invader the victim is rich in hypocrisy.
In high school, decades ago, I had a solution to the INVASION at the US Southern Border: militarily occupy the Rio Grande and shoot anyone crossing it. (The Soviet Union did this.)
I realized as a teen that NOT doing this shows there is no actual will to secure the southern border. I asked then, why do we even have a military if not to protect our border from invasion? Invasion. Do you get that? Not 'undocumented workers.' Not illegal immigrants. Invaders.
They are invaders precisely because they have no intention of assimilating into our limited-government culture, not be a burden on our welfare system or even speak our language! Decades later, matters are worse. The American experiment is just about over. And many are still sadly defending the means of our in-process suicide!
Nobody SHOULD mess with God - or his children. However, we all know this is the mission of our Adversary.God is not a wimpy snowflake God, he's one tough customer which is why I like him, so nobody better mess with him..
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Wrangler
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BrotherDThomas,
Welcome to the forums. I suspect we will have lively discussions on a great many things.
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Yes he is tuff and strong, perfectly strong. But he is also loving and forgiving I think.God is not a wimpy snowflake God, he's one tough customer which is why I like him, so nobody better mess with him..
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Wrangler
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Heaven has closed borders and a strict immigration policy.
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