Davy
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Fine, then refuse to vote at all, if you think that alleviates you from your duty as a citizen.
Lord Jesus didn't deny the collecting of taxes, and He decides who the powers are that be (Romans 13:1).
IS IT A SIN FOR A CHRISTIAN TO VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT, OR IS IT JUST WRONG??
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Fine, then refuse to vote at all, if you think that alleviates you from your duty as a citizen.
Lord Jesus didn't deny the collecting of taxes, and He decides who the powers are that be (Romans 13:1).
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this whole mixing of Christianity & secular politics has no good end.
we have to poke out either one eye or the other to make ourselves blind enough to follow either worldly party.
weird thing is since the 70's nominal 'christians' have been duped into favoring one particular blindness
**shrug**
ya know the antichrist is said to be able to blind "even the elect" if it were possible.
somehow i doubt he's going to be a democrat. but who listens to post, eh?
basically no one.
awful lot of context to Matthew 17:24-27 you are not acknowledging here --
but OK, next election cycle, instead of voting blindly for the worldly party that tried to buy you with lies, follow God:
go catch a fish and vote for whoever you find in its mouth.
test Him and see what is really the truth.
amigo de christo
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I have a strong hunch that first century lady wont be voting for biden or the BBB . GOOD . Highly dangerous and very deceptive they are indeed .
amigo de christo
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Then beware the BBB agenda cause its going world wide . Sie order has been given and the dragon is working through all realms of society
to make ready a people and a system unto the beast . Our HOPE is in the LORD alone and this ol world is ready to embrace
the darkest hour and then cometh the end . This world is gonna implode and explode upon itself . But this is the result of the curse
and of men who refused to come to the saving knowledge of Christ and chose rather to remove all reminders of GOD out of society .
We are witnessing a world wide roman ones level reprobation . Win souls where still be time to do so and build one another up
on sound biblical doctrine . Remember the end of a lamb is good .
Davy
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After Stalin died, the Soviets devised a new plan, the New Economic Plan (NEP) in 1958. Since the evils Stalin did, it put communism in a bad light to the world, and they wanted to change that. So they began easing up on many of their polices. And for the 3rd final phase of their plan, they said they might allow the Berlin Wall to come down. When that happened, they used movements they called like Perestroika, and Democratization. They even were behind the religious movement in Poland in 80's - 90's. And since then also they have held summits on Christianity in Moscow with western Church leaders. The general attitude is their becoming in appearance less like a Communist country, and more of just a country that practices socialist values. (see New Lies For Old - 1984, by Anatoliy Golitsyn who covers these changes in long-range strategy by the Soviets)
What this did was basically start the world communist plan for blending East with West. But the ultimate goal is not world communism, it is a one-world government which is just another term for Lucifer's one world beast kingdom they are preparing the whole world for. Communism is only a tool that Lucifer's workers are using.
“Patriotism ——The last refuge of a Coward”.....who buys this cheap attempt to garner some votes? Do you think he didn’t know that there was a camera around?
Yeah, the The man with the Orange Bone Spurs sure does love his flag! Lol.....As long as he does not have to fight to defend it !
Trump was joking..
And as regards "shame", Obama shamefully gave Iran permission to build nukes, but Trump scrapped the deal. Then Biden took office and guess what- yup, he said "go ahead" to Iran!
I think Americans had better start investing in nuclear bunkers..
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Trump was “ joking” ? ......Hogwash......His Traitorous Crowd sure didn’t see the humor....it INsPIRED them ! And he KNEW it! If he were joking and he failed to tell the crowd, he sure was taking one hell of a Gamble with Pence’s life, wasnt he?
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Right in one! Nail on the head!
I do not debate in the churches I visit but, I do ask questions. And I have ask this question at a few churches. Should a Christian vote for a democrat? Most of the time I get the deer in the headlights look. Part of the reason for that is because they know some of the initiatives that I list at the beginning of this thread. Can they explain why they give the thumbs up for abortion, drugs, and homosexuals?
Some of them are thinking if they do not physically do it....it is not on them. Which is pretty much the definition of "short sighted" And I remind them that James said that, If you know the right thing to do and do not do it, it is a sin to you.
Some plea ignorance....I don't understand politics.
Some explain that their families have always been democrats. At which I will tell them the joke of why grandma use to cut the ends off the roast.
The democrats of yester-year are long gone. What we have now is the communist-atheist party of America. I call it a strange form of communism because it has not shown its true face yet. Communists are not soft on crime and not concerned with the environment. The democrats are using this tactic to destroy our society and our values and break the economy with the costs of eco-programs.
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I got one more rhyme for everybody—— “No Hope With the Pope”..... Lol.....that’s an old one....
That all ya got ? Lol? Even our Boastful Brainiac can’t argue with the Truth.....The only Legislation that I can remember Rump getting passed was his Trillion Dollar tax cut to the Super Rich....it was his first and Only priority....
Matthew 24:24
For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
"to deceive even the elect"
Does that sound like the worldly powers y'all dismiss out of hand?
Or the equally worldly powers y'all devote yourselves to unquestioningly?
Beware!
For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
"to deceive even the elect"
Does that sound like the worldly powers y'all dismiss out of hand?
Or the equally worldly powers y'all devote yourselves to unquestioningly?
Beware!
That is because some decades ago, Jerry Falwell sold the church to the R party, and today the average churchgoers being by and large totally Biblically illiterate, believe their salvation somewhat depends on voting R just as much as it depends on visiting some particular building on Ishtar Sunday.
As a church we are woefully ignorant and woefully lukewarm today.
A shamefully awful lot of people speak more about frump than Jesus, and that is not by any means complimentary.
I guess I have to disagree with all of that.
I have been to churches here in Missouri, up and down the eastern sea board and in Europe. There are a lot of Christians that know and study the Bible. Interpretation varies, obviously and there is a lot that Christians do not know, and that includes you. But, its not all their fault, they have been feed disinformation for centuries. Popular beliefs that are just wrong and some that cause sin.
All you can ask from a politician is do the right thing. This is where democrats fail horribly. Salvation some how depends on voting Republican? I have never heard that from a Republican or a preacher. It is usually accusations from the democrats or the attitude of antiestablishment people. When it comes to the politicians it is about doing the right thing and the same thing goes for Christians, do the right thing.
Start your day out with Christ, walk with Him all day...of course I talk to Him all day....LOL Love God, love one another and do the right thing.....my motto....Be good and do good.
Dropship
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Obama's sloppy "coffee cup salute" disrespects the military-
Below: Don shows how to do it right..
Below: Don shows how to do it right..
not that there are no Christians who know and study their Bibles, but that the majority of churchgoers don't.
what percentage of the people who show up for the sunday morning service will come to a Bible study later in the week? probably less than 10% - and of those it's only a percentage who 'do their homework' while the remainder are hearing these things for the first time.
that by and large the majority of Christians hardly ever read their Bibles is a well established & very sad fact.
and there is no denying that there is an assumed link in the church between 'being a good Christian' and voting for whoever is on the R ticket, just as there is a prevalent thinking that 'being a Christian' equals doing such things as having a KJV Bible, showing up at church weekly, holding the door for little old ladies & avoiding cussing, drinking and smoking. for many, voting R is simply 'taken for granted' as an obvious thing a Christian ought to do - among the same people who believe 'living a good clean life & going to church' is the way to heaven.
Davy
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That's definitely on the nail too.
Related 1958 long-range Soviet goals:
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the U.S.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings,” substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.
24.Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural and healthy.”
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture – education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
Today the Communists try to use the word 'progressive' in politics to try and fool the younger generation that doesn't know communist history. Those above goals one wouldn't normally think world Communism would have, but those goals are only temporary so as to get control over the western Christian nations.
However, they will not get total power over the Christian nations under their "one world government" system that is coming. That is what the subject of iron and clay not mixing per the Book of Daniel is about. They think that once my generation that knows better is gone, that the younger generations will be more easily fooled, and there will be none left who realize what is really going on until it's too late.
Yes, I am denying that.
If you know...and I am saying you....if you know the Bible....then you should know that the Republican initiatives are more inline with the Bible. I mean come on! Get real! Do you think that those democrat initiatives that I listed at the beginning of the thread are Biblical! Moral in any way. Do you know what evil is?
And some people do think that the KJV is God. And good manners....heathen Christians? I don't think so! I ask 'em, Where your parents to stupid to teach you manners...or...are are you to stupid to learn?
giving gifts to the rich is every bit as evil as approving sexual immorality.
the scripture makes no distinction; breaking any part of the law makes a person guilty of all of it
R & D are both worldly. IMO the pretender is a worse sinner than the one who doesn't bother trying to pretend.
one of them is at least honest while the other is a manipulative liar.
neither is good.
which one makes merchandise of you?
does that matter or do we simply enjoy being bought?
is simplicity good.
((c.f.e. Proverbs 1:22))
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