Is it biblical? - What does that even mean?

[Dan Clarkston]

Do you like it when people label you?

I do what Jesus did when they labelled Him.... ignore what they say.

Besides, calvinism has been debunked as not being biblical long, long time ago.

It's false doctrine that can from the devil, not from the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ Who, according to Jesus, was sent to lead us in to ALL Truth and Jesus said God's Word is Truth

One must be a scripture twister and ignore portions of God's Word in order to be a calvinist.

The Lord has turned them over to a reprobate mind so it's rare for a calvinist to escape their false doctrine.

For a deep dive in to the false teaching of calvinism, go to the Refuting Calvinism youtube channel.
There you will find scriptural proof that calvinism is a false gospel

 

[quietthinker]

Do you like it when people label you?

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The mainstay of labelling fronts as knowledge when in fact it gives its adherent permission not to think about challenging subjects.

 

[Jack]

That was uncalled for.

[ cc: @David Lamb

But VERY accurate! Your silence on my question proves your reject the Christian Bible!

 

[St. SteVen]

The mainstay of labelling fronts as knowledge when in fact it gives its adherent permission not to think about challenging subjects.

--- PARODY ---

Christian #1: What is your position on this doctrine?
Christian #2: Only stupid people believe that.
Christian #1: Why would you say that?
Christian #2: You're a Calvinist.
Christian #1: What about the doctrine?
Christian #2: Only a heretic would believe that.
Christian #1: That's not really an answer.
Christian #2: If I explained you wouldn't understand.
Christian #1: Try me.
Christian #2: I've already wasted my time on you.
Christian #1: So you have no position on this doctrine?
Christian #2: Only stupid people believe that.
Christian #1: (sigh)

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[Dan Clarkston]

Christian #1: What is your position on this doctrine?
Christian #2: Only stupid people believe that.
Christian #1: Why would you say that?
Christian #2: You're a Calvinist.
Christian #1: What about the doctrine?
Christian #2: Only a heretic would believe that.
Christian #1: That's not really an answer.
Christian #2: If I explained you wouldn't understand.
Christian #1: Try me.
Christian #2: I've already wasted my time on you.
Christian #1: So you have no position on this doctrine?
Christian #2: Only stupid people believe that.
Christian #1: (sigh)

Well, calvinism actually is false doctrine since all 5 of their "point" are not biblical.

One has to twist scripture and ignore a bunch of scripture to be a calvinist

The Holy Spirit has never led anybody to become a calvinist which is why they have to recruit people in to their cult kinda like the gay community has to recruit people in to their cult since God never made anyone to be gay... or a calvinist

 

[Jack]

Well, calvinism actually is false doctrine since all 5 of their "point" are not biblical.

One has to twist scripture and ignore a bunch of scripture to be a calvinist

The Holy Spirit has never led anybody to become a calvinist which is why they have to recruit people in to their cult kinda like the gay community has to recruit people in to their cult since God never made anyone to be gay... or a calvinist

Calvinism is the least of stevies problems. The Bible is stevie's problem, period. Maybe we can pull stevie from the FIRE!

 

[David Lamb]

You are confused.... as usual. View attachment 69873

Just because you may not believe what I do about salvation, that doesn't mean that I'm confused. On a forum like this, we encounter Christians with different understanding on all sorts of matters - Creation, baptism, salvation, the person of Mary, and so on. Telling somebody whose understanding is different from one's own that they are confused doesn't make sense, because they could equally reply that it is you who are confused because you don't believe the same as them.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Just because you may not believe what I do about salvation, that doesn't mean that I'm confused.

It does when people claim the false teachings of cavinism is supported by scripture when it very clearly and very obviously is not.
One must be a scripture twister and ignore portions of God's Word in order to be a calvinist.

they could equally reply that it is you who are confused because you don't believe the same as them.

Too bad people don't just accept the whole counsel of God.

That's the problem with most claiming to be "christian" these days.... not only do they not accept all of what the Lord says, they claim the Bible is not from the Lord claiming it was written by men who just made stuff up as they went along ignorant of the fact that the Lord led them thru the Holy Ghost on what to write.

 

[quietthinker]

It does when people claim the false teachings of cavinism is supported by scripture when it very clearly and very obviously is not.
One must be a scripture twister and ignore portions of God's Word in order to be a calvinist.




Too bad people don't just accept the whole counsel of God.

That's the problem with most claiming to be "christian" these days.... not only do they not accept all of what the Lord says, they claim the Bible is not from the Lord claiming it was written by men who just made stuff up as they went along ignorant of the fact that the Lord led them thru the Holy Ghost on what to write.

strange how its always 'they' and 'them'!

 

[St. SteVen]

strange how its always 'they' and 'them'!

Right.
As I have often said...

It's easy to identify a religious cult.
They meet in the church across the street from your church.
And they feel the same way about you.

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[David Lamb]

It does when people claim the false teachings of cavinism is supported by scripture when it very clearly and very obviously is not.
One must be a scripture twister and ignore portions of God's Word in order to be a calvinist.

But clearly those who believe the doctrines of grace ("Calvinism" if you prefer) do so because that is what they find in Scripture. Take a look at any Calvinistic statement of faith, like the 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith or the Westminster Confession of Faith, and you will find that every statement is backed up with Scripture references.

Too bad people don't just accept the whole counsel of God.

That's the problem with most claiming to be "christian" these days.... not only do they not accept all of what the Lord says, they claim the Bible is not from the Lord claiming it was written by men who just made stuff up as they went along ignorant of the fact that the Lord led them thru the Holy Ghost on what to write.

I agree with that. There are so-called Christian ministers who openly say that they don't believe even basic Christian truths like the resurrection of Jesus Christ, or even the existence of God.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

But clearly those who believe the doctrines of grace ("Calvinism" if you prefer) do so because that is what they find in Scripture.

No, calvinists believe in a false grace, a twisted form of grace that claims God decided and appointed the majority of mankind to go to hell and Jesus went to the Cross only for a few. Those believing such are ignorant of God's Word and deceived.

Take a look at any Calvinistic statement of faith, like the 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith or the Westminster Confession of Faith, and you will find that every statement is backed up with Scripture references.

That document is a doctrine of demons because it actually does NOT agree with the New Testament.

Reformed theology is demonic in the worst way because some of it actually sounds good... but satan tricked those following reformed theology by tucking heresy into the movement and these folks are too slow to even know it.

 

[David Lamb]

No, calvinists believe in a false grace, a twisted form of grace that claims God decided and appointed the majority of mankind to go to hell and Jesus went to the Cross only for a few. Those believing such are ignorant of God's Word and deceived.




That document is a doctrine of demons because it actually does NOT agree with the New Testament.

Reformed theology is demonic in the worst way because some of it actually sounds good... but satan tricked those following reformed theology by tucking heresy into the movement and these folks are too slow to even know it.

In that case we are not going to agree on our understanding of Scripture. Thanks for taking the trouble to reply.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

In that case we are not going to agree on our understanding of Scripture

That's meaningless.... I'll agree with Jesus and calvinists will continue in following the wisdom of man being taught as though it were the wisdom of God.

 

[David Lamb]

That's meaningless.... I'll agree with Jesus and calvinists will continue in following the wisdom of man being taught as though it were the wisdom of God.

Sorry, what is meaningless? As I have said, those of us who believe the doctrines Calvin believed do so because we find them in Scripture. I believed the doctrines before I had even heard of John Calvin, so I wasn't "following the wisdom of man." I mentioned the fact that confessions of faith based on the Doctrines of Grace provide Scripture references for every statement. You replied that despite the Scripture references, "That document is a doctrine of demons because it actually does NOT agree with the New Testament.." So what is meaningless about me saying that we are not going to agree?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Sorry, what is meaningless?

meaningless /mē′nĭng-lĭs/

adjective​

1. Having no meaning or significance.
2. Having no meaning; of no value. Opposite of meaningful.
   "a meaningless endeavor; a meaningless life; a meaningless explanation"
3. Lacking meaning

 

[David Lamb]

meaningless /mē′nĭng-lĭs/

adjective​

1. Having no meaning or significance.
2. Having no meaning; of no value. Opposite of meaningful.
   "a meaningless endeavor; a meaningless life; a meaningless explanation"
3. Lacking meaning

I am sorry my post was not clear enough. I wasn't asking you what the word "meaningless" means. I meant, "What in my post, to which you were replying, was meaningless?"

 

[Jack]

"Is it Biblical"?

Stevie said that????????

 

[Dan Clarkston]

"What in my post, to which you were replying, was meaningless?"

The dark and demonic teachings of John Calvin... doctrines of demons Calvin espoused.

 

[David Lamb]

The dark and demonic teachings of John Calvin... doctrines of demons Calvin espoused.

You believe that Calvin's teachings were demonic, but that still doesn't explain why my post in which all I said was that we were not going to agree, was meaningless. In fact it is an example of what I said about not agreeing. If you believe Calvinism to be doctrines of demons, and I believe them to be the doctrines of God's grace, we cannot agree.