Matthew 5:48
48 "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. ]
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In other words, you were mistaken. About how many other things in Scripture are you in error?
I disagree we can contribute to our salvation as it is a choice we have to make and many do not believe in what Christ said and will not listen to him! they know about Christ but do not belong to Him thay are not ons of his sheep.
No, you don't contribute anything to your salvation, you simply receive it. It is, after all, a gift, not a wage you earn. I've already explained this to you before. When you go to the dentist to get a cavity filled, who does the filling? You? Or your dentist? Your dentist, of course. Now, you've trusted your dentist's ability to fill your bad tooth and gone to his office for the filling; but if you sat in his dentist's chair for a day, or a week, or even a month, would your tooth get filled? No. Neither your trust in your dentist nor your going to his office and sitting in his chair actually fix your tooth. They just put you in the right position to have your cavity filled
by your dentist. Until he comes along and does his dental work on you, no amount of trusting that he can fix your tooth, or waiting on him to do so, will do a single thing to remedy your cavity. Only the dentist does the dental work on your tooth that you need, not you. All you do is sit in his chair and receive his work on your tooth.
In the same way, no amount of trusting in Christ as your Savior and drawing near to him in repentance, confession and submission saves you. All these things do is put you in the place to be saved by your Savior. All you do is receive from him his saving work.
Thinking you can add to his salvation is, as I said, just out-and-out blasphemy because it positions you as co-Savior with him, your Creator and God. Are you God's equal? Can you add to his
perfect work at Calvary? No, you can't. And to think you can is the most awful sort of attempt to steal glory due only to Christ.
I wonder, too, about how eager you seem to be to frighten fellow believers into obedience to Christ through fear-driven legalism. "Obey or burn" seems to be your motto. But the apostle John said that "perfect love casts out fear" (
1 Jn. 4:18). Jesus said the First and Great Commandment is to love God, not fear Him (
Matt. 22:36-38). Paul said that anything we say, or know, or do apart from a motive of love for God is spiritually useless (
1 Co. 13:1-3). What, then, of your motto?
God's commandments are a BIG burden to those who don't know and love Christ.
the bible teaches the are NOT a burden
Scripture and context, please. Just so you know, the verse was written to born-again believers, which makes a big difference as to why God's commandments are not burdensome. I mention this because you seem to purposefully ignore that I was talking about unbelievers who would naturally consider God's command a burden, interfering with their favorite sin, as His commandments do. Why are you disagreeing with such an obvious and uncontroversial fact?
Only when we are obeying the First and Great Commandment are we actually obeying all the others (1 Co. 13:1-3).
FALSE!
Jesus did teach the commandments and magnified them see the rich young leadet that asled jesus what to do to have eternal life, jesus replied if you want to enter into life, follow the commandments. He then enumerated some of them, are you one of those who will not believe in what he said?
The commandment Jesus "magnified" was the First and Great Commandment, which exposed what the RYR truly loved (his wealth). And it is this commandment that Paul also magnified, writing that it must be the basis for all other obedience to God that we perform. Even if we give our bodies to be burned and do so without love, first for God, and then for others, it is spiritually profitless.
It isn't I who doesn't believe what the RYR and Jesus said to each other. Perhaps, though, it isn't that one of us doesn't believe what they said, but that only one of us properly understands their exchange.
YES if you listen cafefully and do as Jesus asked, do not rely on your own interpretation, Jesus said exactly what to do, just follow His words and act upon them
You must follow your own advice before you offer it to others. You are relying upon your own peculiar interpretation of Christ's words that is leading you away, rather than toward, him. And you are illegitimately discounting much of the New Testament - a common practice of heretics in the Early Church.
not what i am doing, you interpret the words of paul improperly and many do. thay have to say the same thing as Christ or thay cannot be valid. the servant (paul) is never greater than hid master ( Jesus)
Just making the assertion that you do here doesn't prove that I'm doing what you say I'm doing any more than just asserting the moon is made of green cheese proves that it is. You have yet to demonstrate reasonably and biblically that I'm misinterpreting Paul's words. In fact, if any misinterpretation is going on, it is in your thinking about Scripture, which I have not merely asserted, but
demonstrated in my last few posts to you. Your blunt dismissal of what I explained by no means counters or dissolves what I pointed out.
I'm afraid I don't see any evidence of this in your posts...
The only doctrine I follow are through the words of Christ alone, his words are precise, deep in meaning and at the same time simple enough that a child can understand, except for some parables but Jesus did say why some of them are difficult to understant, there is a purpose for this.
But, as I pointed out to you before, the words of Christ are given to you by Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Neither Mark nor Luke knew Christ personally. The writers of the four Gospels claim to be giving an accurate account of Christ's life and teachings, but there is no account of Jesus's life and teachings
by Jesus himself. No, you have to trust that they've given you an accurate rendering of Christ's words and deeds. On what grounds, then, are you so confident in the Gospels being superior to all the other letters of the NT?
Paul also claims to give a faithful account of what Christ taught him and he had his teaching inspected
and approved by the apostles at Jerusalem (Peter, John and James -
Ga. 1-20), as well as generally accepted by the Early Church as authoritative. Peter even states in one of his letters that Paul's writing were Scripture (
2 Pe. 3:15-16). If these direct disciples of Jesus approved Paul's teaching, who are you to reject it? On what authority do you discount the judgment of the founders and teachers of the Early Church concerning Paul?
WHAT IS GOD"S SALVATION? Lets discuss the implications.
Our salvation is
a Person, not our faith, or our obedience, or our choice. And that Person is Jesus Christ.
John 1:4
4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.
John 11:25-26
25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies,
26 and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?"
John 14:6
6 Jesus *said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
Acts 4:12
12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved."
1 John 5:11-12
11 And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
12 He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.
Could yeald but made the wrong choice! definitrly thr wrong choice it is evident!
??? He made the wrong choice
because his heart was possessed of a love of wealth. The former is the result of the latter. Why are you speaking as though this isn't the case? It's plainly obvious, the connection, here.
Of course IT IS CONTINGENT to a persons action, GOD does put these choices in life in front of us always. when we decide to walk with the lord and persevere in his ways until the end then we shall be saved
No, this is false. I've already explained why. If
your choice to be saved and
your perseverance in the faith save you, then YOU have saved yourself, which is the heresy of works-salvation which the Bible denies repeatedly.
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;
9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
2 Timothy 1:9
9 who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was granted us in Christ Jesus from all eternity,
Titus 3:5
5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,