Is Michael Another Name For Jesus?

[WalterandDebbie]

I think he is an angel. Along the lines of: no, see that you don’t do it, like with John in Revelation. NOT like when the man in Genesis bowed down and was not corrected for doing so.

Even Jude said that this angel, when arguing with Satan, said, the LORD rebuke you.

Yes, Have you read?

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   Who Is Michael, The Archangel?​

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   Who Is Michael The Archangel? Part 5 continued​

   ...of Daniel, is also most interesting. The angel Gabriel relates to Daniel that when the prince of the kingdom of Persia stood opposing him, Michael came to help him (Dan.11:13). Adam Clarke continues: “But lo Michael] Gabriel, who speaks, did not leave Cyrus till Michael came to take his...
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   Who Is Michael The Archangel Part 5​

   ...What a tremendous Eternity in store for the beloved and obedient! Adam Clarke’s Commentary The Adam Clarke Commentary has much to say about “Michael the archangel,” mentioned in Jude 9, where Jude relates, “Yet Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the...
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   Who Is Michael The Archangel Part 5​

   ...Messenger of the Lord,” “the Angel,” “the Commander of the Army of God,” “Prince of Peace,” and has many other names – one of them being “Michael, the Great Prince”! In other words, at some point in time BEFORE time itself was created, God the Father had a FIRSTBORN “SON”! As Paul wrote to...
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   Who Is Michael The Archangel? Part 4​

   ...on their journey to Mount Sinai and the Holy Land. He is a mighty “PRINCE” – the “Prince of peace.” Who is He? 260 Notice that the archangel Michael has these very identical attributes! He is a “PRINCE” (Daniel 10:21), who stands up for Israel (same verse). He is “one of the CHIEF [first in...
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   Who Is Michael The Archangel? Part 5 continued​

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   Who Is Michael, The Archangel?​

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   Who Is Michael The Archangel? Part 4​

   Continued from part 3 The mystery thickens. Later on, Jacob wrestles with an angel all night. The account says, “Then Jacob was left alone; and a Man wrestled with him until the breaking of day” (Gen.32:24). Seeing Jacob’s dogged determination and perseverance, the “Man” blessed him, saying...
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    Who Is Michael, The Archangel?​

    Part 2 Who Is Michael The Archangel? The Name “Michael” Before we go further, take note of the name “Michael.” In the Hebrew, it is Miyka’el, and means “who [is] like God?” The name “Gabriel” means “man of God,” but Michael has a much more imposing name – “[one] who [is] LIKE GOD.” Very 253...
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    Who Is Michael The Archangel Part 5​

    11-7-22 Continue from Part 5 Who Is Michael The Archangel? Michael and Lucifer Michael and Lucifer contended or fought over the body of Moses. They will fight at the end time when war erupts in heaven one final time. They have been enemies – primordial foes – down through the ages. If Michael...
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    Who Is Michael, The Archangel?​

    Part 3 Who Is Michael The Archangel? “My Angel” Now let’s approach this subject from a different angle. Notice! In Exodus 23, we read:“Behold, I send an Angel before you to keep you in the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared. Beware of Him and obey His voice; do not...
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[stunnedbygrace]

NoWalter, I haven’t. I don’t think I will read them either. I don’t believe Michael is Jesus. I just don’t.

I also don’t know why anyone would think it’s of much importance to our trust to believe it.

 

[Taken]

Who throws Satan to the Pit? (In Rev)

An angel.

Rev 20:
[1] And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
[2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
[3] And cast him into the bottomless pit,

 

[FactsPlease]

And that was Michael (his name before "Jesus').

 

[Taken]

EXACTLY what His son was.

His Son IS an uncreated Spirit.
Angels are Created Spirits...
You are off kilter on what Exactly means.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

But the prince of the kingdom of Persia was withstanding me for twenty-one days; then behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left there with the kings of Persia.

This is talking about principalities, princes, kings. Its talking about powerful angels.

 

[Taken]

And that was Michael (his name before "Jesus').

Jesus’ Name was never revealed in the OT.

What was revealed in the OT and NT...is Like Created Holy Spirit Angels....Jesus Served God, ON Earth, according to Gods Holy purpose.

 

[FactsPlease]

His Son IS an uncreated Spirit.
Angels are Created Spirits...
You are off kilter on what Exactly means.

Proof of that from the Bible?

 

[Taken]

His Son IS an uncreated Spirit.
Angels are Created Spirits...
You are off kilter on what Exactly means.

Good you can accept correction without animosity.

 

[FactsPlease]

Good you can accept correction without animosity.

Proof of that from the Bible?

 

[WalterandDebbie]

NoWalter, I haven’t. I don’t think I will read them either. I don’t believe Michael is Jesus. I just don’t.

I also don’t know why anyone would think it’s of much importance to our trust to believe it.

Well at least I shared our view with you, thank you for your input.

Love, Walter

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Well at least I shared our view with you, thank you for your input.

Love, Walter

I just think it opens a nasty door that begins arguments that Jesus was and is a created being rather than God in flesh.
And I think that leads to a breaking of the rule that we can’t talk about “is Jesus God?”

I also think it’s the complete opposite of He must increase. It begins to diminish Him instead.

 

[Taken]

Proof of that from the Bible?

No. Not going to play a game of I Read, I Learn, I Study, and you pop in and want me to text quote umpteen Scriptures to Prove something to your Satisfaction...LOL

Affects me in no way, what you do or do not: bother to read, learn, study.
The Scriptures are not suited for elementary minds to Hope for an elementary billeted one liner format.

If you want to believe Jesus is a Created Angel, a Human man, existed, didn’t exist....no affect on me.

Tee Hee!

 

[FactsPlease]

A Triune Escape...

 

[stunnedbygrace]

A Triune Escape...

Well, no man can answer your prompt unless he wants to break the rules of the forum.

 

[FactsPlease]

Point taken, Stunned!
I've never heard of a forum that didn't discuss who God IS!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Walter, I think I’m gathering that you are in a church that split from SDA/WCG?

Im curious what SDA doctrines created the split.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Point taken, Stunned!
I've never heard of a forum that didn't discuss who God IS!

The moderators recently forbade debate over the trinity and debate over Jesus not being God. And that’s even if you DO believe as the statement of faith that’s listed.
They did it because there was a total flood of those two topics being debated very acrimoniously.

 

[FactsPlease]

A Bible forum that forbids discussing who God is! How quaint!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

A Bible forum that forbids discussing who God is! How quaint!

Lol. You’re free to state that Jesus is God in flesh. You just can’t debate that He isn’t. Actually, you still can. You just have to go to the area designated for that topic. I think…