Is Sunday sacredness in the Bible?

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Most Christians do not understand Bible doctrines and its interpretations!! And the Sabbath and John 3:16 are the two on top of the list because they are inter-related. As a matter of fact, everything in the Bible corelates.

In the Old Testament Sabbath God told Moses to stone to death the man who was found picking up sticks in Numbers 15. Why so harsh a punishment for just picking up sticks, perhaps he just needed them to keep his house warm? There must be something very significant in keeping the Sabbath rule that God has not told us about or did He??

I believe God did. Both have spiritual significance!! We just don't see it.

In the New Testament, God changed the Sabbath from the seventh day to the first day of the week (there are many Scripture verses to support this), but now the rule is to do "spiritual work" and the penalty of death when Sabbath is violated still remains the same, and will be required on judgement day.

I've given you something to work on. Search the Scripture if you can find the spiritual essence of the Seventh Day Sabbath and how it relates to John 3:16. You're smart enough. I'll give you the head-start.

Matthew 28:1 reads:
In the end of the Sabbaths as it began to dawn toward the first of the Sabbaths came....

Note the underlined words are the same (Strong's Concordance #4521) yet the second word Sabbath is read as "week.

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Sorry, but you are utterly wrong and off base, and are promoting an illegitimate change to the covenant that was ratified by the blood of Christ 2 days before. No testament once ratified by the death of the testator can be altered. You are 2 days too late. Go back to the plain reading of scripture without your Sunday tinted spectacles clouding your vision. The whole of God's law, without any exceptions, all ten commandments, has been written on the fleshly tables of the heart of those willing to render obedience to the authority of God over their lives. It wasn't half a law, or 3/4, or 9/10ths.

This whole law is enforced in the New Testament. James 2:10, 11. "For whosever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said, also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law."
Not a transgressor against just one or two commandments, but a transgressor against the whole law. The "whole law" referred to in this text is the one that says, Thou shalt not kill, and, Thou shalt not commit adultery, and the same law said Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
To prove again that a stand alone whole law given at Sinai is brought over, we refer to the sermon of Stephen, the martyr who preached this side of the day of Pentecost, when the New Testament was fully in force. Acts 7:38. "This is he that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel, which spake to him in the mount Sinai and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us."
This shows that the "lively oracles" received on mount Sinai were to be "given unto us," Christians. Stephen takes this law to show men their sins in this dispensation: hence, it must be in force. (See 1 John 3:4) Proof: "Who have received the law by the disposition of angels and have not kept it."
 
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Sorry, but you are utterly wrong and off base, and are promoting an illegitimate change to the covenant that was ratified by the blood of Christ 2 days before. No testament once ratified by the death of the testator can be altered. You are 2 days too late. Go back to the plain reading of scripture without your Sunday tinted spectacles clouding your vision. The whole of God's law, without any exceptions, all ten commandments, has been written on the fleshly tables of the heart of those willing to render obedience to the authority of God over their lives. It wasn't half a law, or 3/4, or 9/10ths.
Are you spiritual?? 1 Corinthians 2:14 reads:
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
No, I am not two days late as you claim but rather, you are early by centuries!! REMEMBER God rested on the seventh day and made it holy, after creation. We don't even know what year creation was created.

A child of God is suppose to be able to teach and also be able to be taught!!

I stand by what Scripture tells me and if another Christian points out my misunderstanding of any Scripture references, then I'll gladly look into it.

I have yet to see from Christians here in these forums discussing the Sabbath in a spiritual sense.

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For it is written, And He said unto them, "The sabbath was made for man, and not the man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

This was a direct respond to the Pharisees who were obsessed and stuck with their traditions imposed on the people. And Jesus also highlighted about the same traditions violated by their fathers themselves, even to priests work in the Temple on that very day. Concluding, the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath, Himself and those who are born again of water and Spirit, and disicple by Him.

Even if it is a day given for man to rest, but some neccessary conduct on that day are exampted by the will of GOD. Moses Law may seem harsh even to a man picking up a stick is to be stoned, probably it is a strict requirement put in such context.

But, to the Lord, getting up or stepping up, on that day to help a fellow brethren in need is not phorhibited. Apparently, the Lord did not fulfill the Law to the letter as the Pharisees did, but rather fulfill to it's requirements. And, that is why the New Covenant discipleship and good works inspired doctrine, magnifies the Old Covenant in a better Light set by the Lord.

In other words, the New Covenant born again new creation believers are a city built on a hill. While the Old Covenant carnal believers bond by it, are a city built by the valley. Meantime, the moral Law can be used to minister unto unbelievers, and to come into salvation through the Gospel. For it is written, 'For as many as have sinned without Law shall also perish without the Law: and as many as have sinned in the Law shall be judge by the law; ..................'
 

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I have yet to see from Christians here in these forums discussing the Sabbath in a spiritual sense.

It happens occasionally, but it falls on deaf ears to those who reject the Sabbath and often the entire law of God outright, which accounts for most folks here.

I remember looking forward to Sundays, as a young child. It was a time when business-as-usual was laid aside as Christ and family were exalted.

Then, when I found a fellowship that not only kept the 7th-day, Bible Sabbath, but had a deeper understanding of its origin and significance, I was ushered into a whole new way of looking at the Sabbath that made it like having a child's Christmas every Saturday.

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The Bible is quite silent on Sunday sacredness, in fact its not there, so those who claim they follow 'Solo Scriptura' or the "Bible Only" Protestant Churches contradict themselves by observing it as a replacement for the Sabbath. Many say that the reason it is held as the day of worship is since Jesus rose on the first day, or because the Holy Spirit was given to the early church on the Day of Pentecost, or that Paul broke bread and ate on the first day at Troas, or had offering brought to him on the first day to take to those suffering in Jerusalem. But history and logic verify that none of the arguments are valid. Nowhere it the Bible does it declare Sunday sacredness, or is the day of worship changed by Christ or the Apostles.

Many Christians believe and teach that Sunday is the "Christian sabbath" or that a change was made by God to the Sunday observance, but scripture says nothing on this. Now lets look at how the belief was held by the Reformers as they knew Sunday sacredness was not scriptural.....

The Reformers held that Sunday observance was not juris divini (of divine law), but only quasi juris divini (of semidivine law); yet they did would not allow that the claim that it could be changed and appointed by the authority of the Roman Catholic church (Augsburg Confession of 1536, part 2, art. 7, "Of Ecclesiastical Power"). However the Protestant churches held to the idea of Sunday sacredness, and followed the Catholic practice of Sunday observance. This is not found in the Bible, and Christ confirmed that as Creator He made the Sabbath for man, and He kept the Sabbath:

Mark 2:27-28 King James Version (KJV)
"27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

Christ observed the Sabbath and He set an example for us to follow:

Luke 4:16 King James Version (KJV)
"16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."

The practice of observing the first day of the week as Sabbath has no sanction either in Christ or in the New Testament. Jesus kept the Sabbath and He went to on Sabbath to the synagogue to worship, and nowhere does scripture have anything contesting this. We find it in many text:

Luke 4:17 King James Version (KJV)
"17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,"

The Sabbath was not only for going to church in order to worship but also to hear God’s Word. On the Sabbath day we find Christ in His mission to teach, to relieve the oppressed, to heal every kind of disease, and to restore those who are brokenhearted and without hope. And Christ did even more:

Luke 4:31-41 King James Version (KJV)
"31 And came down to Capernaum, a city of Galilee, and taught them on the sabbath days.
32 And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
33 And in the synagogue there was a man, which had a spirit of an unclean devil, and cried out with a loud voice,
34 Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art; the Holy One of God.
35 And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the devil had thrown him in the midst, he came out of him, and hurt him not.
36 And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word is this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out.
37 And the fame of him went out into every place of the country round about.
38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house. And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they besought him for her.
39 And he stood over her, and rebuked the fever; and it left her: and immediately she arose and ministered unto them.
40 Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them.
41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ."

We also see how on the Sabbath day Christ handled the demon-possessed man who confronted Jesus, and He rebuked the evil angels just as He rebuked the Devil himself.

Mathew 4:1-11 King James Version (KJV)
"1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."

Notice He states "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve", worship is important. Now much of the Christian world reverences Sunday or holds to Sunday sacredness, but did God know that this attempt to change His holy Sabbath would occur? Lets look:

"And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. " Daniel 7:25

"Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:28-30

God predicted that from within the church itself, there would arise men who would attempt to change what He had set from Creation and His holy law. So the prophecy has shown to be true, and it has come to about as the Sabbath and those who kept it were swept away, and a substitute put in.
In the New Covenant a day of the week wasn't worshiped. We abide in Jesus every moment of every day, called "Today."
 

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Are you spiritual?? 1 Corinthians 2:14 reads:
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
No, I am not two days late as you claim but rather, you are early by centuries!! REMEMBER God rested on the seventh day and made it holy, after creation. We don't even know what year creation was created.

A child of God is suppose to be able to teach and also be able to be taught!!

I stand by what Scripture tells me and if another Christian points out my misunderstanding of any Scripture references, then I'll gladly look into it.

I have yet to see from Christians here in these forums discussing the Sabbath in a spiritual sense.

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Romans 7:5-6
5 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

The Spirit of the Sabbath is abiding in Jesus and He in us. The New Covenant doesn't worship a day of the Week as an idol. We worship the Lord of the Sabbath.
 

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For every true born again believers disciple by the Holy Bible, and in the New Covenant they are doers and abiders. For them every day is sacred, to meet, to serve GOD and one's neighbor.

As for the gathering of saints not to forsake, in the book of Acts the saints met every day. And to the denominational folks of today, they by tradition have made certain days sacred to meet or to celebrate and to serve..
 

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In the New Covenant a day of the week wasn't worshiped. We abide in Jesus every moment of every day, called "Today."
What do you mean, a day wasn't worshipped? And no-one is arguing that you don't abide in Him every day. That isn't the issue. And it hasn't anything to do with Sabbath observance.

The work of the creator was finished, but the first week of time was not yet completed. Each of the six days had been distinguished by the Creator's work upon it; but the seventh was rendered memorable in a very different manner. "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." In yet stronger language it is written: "On the seventh day he rested, and was REFRESHED." Thus the seventh day of the week became the rest-day of the Lord. How remarkable is this fact! "The everlasting God, The Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary." He needed no rest; yet it is written, "On the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." Why does not the record simply state the cessation of the Creator's work? Why did he at the close of that work employ a day of rest? The answer will be learned from the next verse. He was laying the foundation of a divine institution, the memorial of his own great work. "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it; because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." The fourth commandment states the same fact: He "rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." The blessing and sanctification of the seventh day were because that God had rested upon it. His resting upon it, then, was to lay the foundation for blessing and sanctifying the day. His being refreshed with this rest, implies that he delighted in the act which laid the foundation for the memorial of his great work. The second act of the Creator in instituting this memorial was to place his blessing upon the day of his rest. Thence forward it was the blessed rest-day of the Lord. A third act completes the sacred institution. The day already blessed of God is now, last of all, sanctified or hallowed by him. To sanctify is "to separate, set apart, or appoint to a holy, sacred, or religious use." To hallow is "to make holy; to consecrate; to set apart for a holy or religious use." The time when these three acts were performed is worthy of especial notice. The first act was that of rest. This took place on the seventh day; for the day was employed in rest. The second and third acts took place when the seventh day was past. "God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work." Hence it was on the first day of the second week of time that God blessed the seventh day, and set it apart to a holy use. The blessing and sanctification of the seventh day, therefore, relate not to the first seventh day of time, but to the seventh day of the week for time to come, in memory of God's rest on that day from the work of creation. With the beginning of time, God began to count days, giving to each an ordinal number for its name. Seven different days receive as many different names. In memory of that which he did on the last of these days, he sets that apart by name to a holy use. This act gave existence to weeks, or periods of seven days. For with the seventh day, he ceased to count, and, by the divine appointment of that day to a holy use in memory of his rest thereon, he causes man to begin the count of a new week so soon as the first seventh day had ceased. And as God has been pleased to give man, in all, but seven different days, and has given to each one of these days a name which indicates its exact place in the week, his act of setting apart one of these by name, which act created weeks and gave man the Sabbath, can never - except by sophistry - be made to relate to an indefinite or uncertain day. The days of the week are measured off by revolution of our earth on its axis; and hence our seventh day, as such, can come only to dwellers on this globe. To Adam and Eve, therefore, as inhabitants of this earth, and not to the inhabitants of some other world, were the days of the week given to use. Hence, when God set apart one of these days to a holy use in memory of his own rest on that day of the week, the very essence of the act consisted in his telling Adam that this day should be used only for sacred purposes. Adam was then in the garden of God, placed there by the Creator to dress it and to keep it. He was also commissioned of God to subdue the earth. When therefore the rest-day of the Lord should return, from week to week, all this secular employment, however proper in itself, must be laid aside, and the day observed in memory of the Creator's rest.

Dr. Twisse quotes Martin Luther thus: "And Martin Luther professeth as much (tome vi, in Gen.2:3). `It follows from hence,' saith he, `that, if Adam had stood in his innocency, yet he should have kept the seventh day holy, that is, on that day he should have taught his children, and children's children, what was the will of God, and wherein his worship did consist; he should have praised God, given thanks, and offered. On other days he should have tilled his ground, looked to his cattle.' " The Hebrew verb, kadash, here rendered sanctified, and in the fourth commandment rendered hallowed, is defined by Gesenius, "To pronounce holy, to sanctify; to institute any holy thing, to appoint." It is repeatedly used in the Old Testament for a public appointment or proclamation. Thus, when the cities of refuge were set apart in Israel, it is written: "They appointed [margin, Heb., sanctified] Kedesh in Galilee in Mount Naphtali, and Shechem in Mount Ephraim," &c. This sanctification or appointment of the cities of refuge was by a public announcement to Israel that these cities were set apart for that purpose. This verb is also used for the appointment of a public fast, and for the gathering of a solemn assembly. Thus it is written: "Sanctify [i.e., appoint] ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the Lord your God." "Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify [i.e., appoint] a fast, call a solemn assembly." "And Jehu said, Proclaim [margin, Heb., sanctify] a solemn assembly for Baal." This appointment for Baal was so public that all the worshipers of Baal in all Israel were gathered together. These fasts and solemn assemblies were sanctified or set apart by a public appointment or proclamation of the fact. When therefore God set apart the seventh day to a holy use, it was necessary that he should state that fact to those who had the days of the week to use. Without such announcement the day could not be set apart from the others. But the most striking illustration of the meaning of this word may be found in the record of the sanctification of Mount Sinai. When God was about to speak the ten commandments in the hearing of all Israel, he sent Moses down from the top of Mount Sinai to restrain the people from touching the mount. "And Moses said unto the Lord, The people cannot come up to Mount Sinai; for thou chargedst us, saying, Set bounds about the mount, and sanctify it." Turning back to the verse where God gave this charge to Moses, we read: "And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount or touch the border of it." Hence to sanctify the mount was to command the people not to touch even the border of it; for God was about to descend in majesty upon it. In other words, to sanctify or set apart to a holy use Mount Sinai, was to tell the people that God would have them treat the mountain as sacred to himself. And thus also to sanctify the rest-day of the Lord was to tell Adam that he should treat the day as holy to the Lord. The declaration, "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it," is not indeed a commandment for the observance of that day; but it is the record that such a precept was given to Adam... For how could the Creator "set apart to a holy use" the day of his rest, when those who were to use the day knew nothing of his will in the case? Let those answer who are able.
 

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What do you mean, a day wasn't worshipped? And no-one is arguing that you don't abide in Him every day. That isn't the issue. And it hasn't anything to do with Sabbath observance.

The work of the creator was finished, but the first week of time was not yet completed. Each of the six days had been distinguished by the Creator's work upon it; but the seventh was rendered memorable in a very different manner. "And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made." In yet stronger language it is written: "On the seventh day he rested, and was REFRESHED." Thus the seventh day of the week became the rest-day of the Lord. How remarkable is this fact! "The everlasting God, The Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary." He needed no rest; yet it is written, "On the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." Why does not the record simply state the cessation of the Creator's work? Why did he at the close of that work employ a day of rest? The answer will be learned from the next verse. He was laying the foundation of a divine institution, the memorial of his own great work. "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it; because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." The fourth commandment states the same fact: He "rested the seventh day; wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." The blessing and sanctification of the seventh day were because that God had rested upon it. His resting upon it, then, was to lay the foundation for blessing and sanctifying the day. His being refreshed with this rest, implies that he delighted in the act which laid the foundation for the memorial of his great work. The second act of the Creator in instituting this memorial was to place his blessing upon the day of his rest. Thence forward it was the blessed rest-day of the Lord. A third act completes the sacred institution. The day already blessed of God is now, last of all, sanctified or hallowed by him. To sanctify is "to separate, set apart, or appoint to a holy, sacred, or religious use." To hallow is "to make holy; to consecrate; to set apart for a holy or religious use." The time when these three acts were performed is worthy of especial notice. The first act was that of rest. This took place on the seventh day; for the day was employed in rest. The second and third acts took place when the seventh day was past. "God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work." Hence it was on the first day of the second week of time that God blessed the seventh day, and set it apart to a holy use. The blessing and sanctification of the seventh day, therefore, relate not to the first seventh day of time, but to the seventh day of the week for time to come, in memory of God's rest on that day from the work of creation. With the beginning of time, God began to count days, giving to each an ordinal number for its name. Seven different days receive as many different names. In memory of that which he did on the last of these days, he sets that apart by name to a holy use. This act gave existence to weeks, or periods of seven days. For with the seventh day, he ceased to count, and, by the divine appointment of that day to a holy use in memory of his rest thereon, he causes man to begin the count of a new week so soon as the first seventh day had ceased. And as God has been pleased to give man, in all, but seven different days, and has given to each one of these days a name which indicates its exact place in the week, his act of setting apart one of these by name, which act created weeks and gave man the Sabbath, can never - except by sophistry - be made to relate to an indefinite or uncertain day. The days of the week are measured off by revolution of our earth on its axis; and hence our seventh day, as such, can come only to dwellers on this globe. To Adam and Eve, therefore, as inhabitants of this earth, and not to the inhabitants of some other world, were the days of the week given to use. Hence, when God set apart one of these days to a holy use in memory of his own rest on that day of the week, the very essence of the act consisted in his telling Adam that this day should be used only for sacred purposes. Adam was then in the garden of God, placed there by the Creator to dress it and to keep it. He was also commissioned of God to subdue the earth. When therefore the rest-day of the Lord should return, from week to week, all this secular employment, however proper in itself, must be laid aside, and the day observed in memory of the Creator's rest.

Dr. Twisse quotes Martin Luther thus: "And Martin Luther professeth as much (tome vi, in Gen.2:3). `It follows from hence,' saith he, `that, if Adam had stood in his innocency, yet he should have kept the seventh day holy, that is, on that day he should have taught his children, and children's children, what was the will of God, and wherein his worship did consist; he should have praised God, given thanks, and offered. On other days he should have tilled his ground, looked to his cattle.' " The Hebrew verb, kadash, here rendered sanctified, and in the fourth commandment rendered hallowed, is defined by Gesenius, "To pronounce holy, to sanctify; to institute any holy thing, to appoint." It is repeatedly used in the Old Testament for a public appointment or proclamation. Thus, when the cities of refuge were set apart in Israel, it is written: "They appointed [margin, Heb., sanctified] Kedesh in Galilee in Mount Naphtali, and Shechem in Mount Ephraim," &c. This sanctification or appointment of the cities of refuge was by a public announcement to Israel that these cities were set apart for that purpose. This verb is also used for the appointment of a public fast, and for the gathering of a solemn assembly. Thus it is written: "Sanctify [i.e., appoint] ye a fast, call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the Lord your God." "Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify [i.e., appoint] a fast, call a solemn assembly." "And Jehu said, Proclaim [margin, Heb., sanctify] a solemn assembly for Baal." This appointment for Baal was so public that all the worshipers of Baal in all Israel were gathered together. These fasts and solemn assemblies were sanctified or set apart by a public appointment or proclamation of the fact. When therefore God set apart the seventh day to a holy use, it was necessary that he should state that fact to those who had the days of the week to use. Without such announcement the day could not be set apart from the others. But the most striking illustration of the meaning of this word may be found in the record of the sanctification of Mount Sinai. When God was about to speak the ten commandments in the hearing of all Israel, he sent Moses down from the top of Mount Sinai to restrain the people from touching the mount. "And Moses said unto the Lord, The people cannot come up to Mount Sinai; for thou chargedst us, saying, Set bounds about the mount, and sanctify it." Turning back to the verse where God gave this charge to Moses, we read: "And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount or touch the border of it." Hence to sanctify the mount was to command the people not to touch even the border of it; for God was about to descend in majesty upon it. In other words, to sanctify or set apart to a holy use Mount Sinai, was to tell the people that God would have them treat the mountain as sacred to himself. And thus also to sanctify the rest-day of the Lord was to tell Adam that he should treat the day as holy to the Lord. The declaration, "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it," is not indeed a commandment for the observance of that day; but it is the record that such a precept was given to Adam... For how could the Creator "set apart to a holy use" the day of his rest, when those who were to use the day knew nothing of his will in the case? Let those answer who are able.
I've been going to the local SDA church and the topic of EVERY sermon is the Sabbath. That is worshiping the Sabbath in my eyes. Some Sabbaths Jesus' name is not even mentioned, nor any Scriptures out of the New Testament. To hear about Jesus and the rest of our New Covenant I also go to church the next day. I scanned your post here and what is the main topic? The Sabbath. That's fine for you, and I love the people and those of you on this forum, and as a seer myself I have seen evidence of the Spirit on one of the women who I see a white glow around her head, but unfortunately not the pastor. I'm a Spirit-filled believer and it is imperative that we also need to know how to grow in all the fruit of the Spirit. 2 Peter 1:2-11. Otherwise Matthew 7:19-23!

But I want you to know that I wouldn't go the the SDA church at all if I didn't respect your quest for holiness. There are denominations that I wouldn't be caught dead in, because Jesus wrote the letter to Sardis and told them they have a reputation for being alive, but they are DEAD. Those are the first denominations out of the Reformation. That didn't change until John Wesley came along a couple hundred years later in verse 4. However, he would be turning over in his grave if he saw what the Methodists are doing now regarding allowing practicing homosexuals be in leadership.
 
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I've been going to the local SDA church and the topic of EVERY sermon is the Sabbath. That is worshiping the Sabbath in my eyes. Some Sabbaths Jesus' name is not even mentioned, nor any Scriptures out of the New Testament.

This is so weird. I've been a member of a dozen different local Adventist churches and I've never, ever experienced this. I could point you to dozens of church Facebook pages and YouTube channels that upload and stream their worship services every Sabbath that make it very clear that what you're experiencing is not the normative practice at all.

I know there are still churches that are all black suits, black ties, and black briefcases filled with little red books, but they're the exception to the rule and not even all of those are bad.

If you're getting a sermon every Sabbath the main topic of which is the Sabbath, you ought to try to find another Adventist church to go to on Sabbath. That's not good for you, Sis.

I scanned your post here and what is the main topic? The Sabbath.

Sis, the topic of the thread is the false sabbath. I'm not sure what else should be expected? :)

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If you ask the question “Is Sunday sacredness in the Bible” then you do not understand the reality of Christianity.

It is an attempt to deceive the Bible Only people.
Christianity did not stop at the last page of the Bible. If so Protestantism is an invalid religion….because it happened after the last page of the Bible.

It all has been explained in detail….the Lord’s Day and Sunday observance developed after the Biblical era. So even those that try to deceive by asking the question, is Sunday sacredness in the Bible…they know it is not and they know why.

Christians have been observing Sunday as the Lord’s Day ever since the end of the 1st century and early Christian writers attest to this and take objection to observing the Jewish Saturday Sabbath.

It is the odd ball denominations that cropped up in more modern times that observe the Jewish Saturday Sabbath….the Seventh day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses.
 
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This is so weird. I've been a member of a dozen different local Adventist churches and I've never, ever experienced this. I could point you to dozens of church Facebook pages and YouTube channels that upload and stream their worship services every Sabbath that make it very clear that what you're experiencing is not the normative practice at all.

I know there are still churches that are all black suits, black ties, and black briefcases filled with little red books, but they're the exception to the rule and not even all of those are bad.

If you're getting a sermon every Sabbath the main topic of which is the Sabbath, you ought to try to find another Adventist church to go to on Sabbath. That's not good for you, Sis.



Sis, the topic of the thread is the false sabbath. I'm not sure what else should be expected? :)

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I don't remember the SDA church in my childhood doing this.

What is weird is I went to my chiropractor today and there and back I listen to an SDA Christian radio station, and the Sabbath wasn't mentioned once! It was all about Jesus. So refreshing!

I'll stay here as I'm developing friendships. It is the only SDA church I know of, but they sure have less people going to it now than when my mother was alive and I took her there. I'm a teacher taught straight from the Holy Spirit, so I'm not going there to learn something new. And I do not discuss this with them at all. It is just between you all on the forums and me.
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If you ask the question “Is Sunday sacredness in the Bible” then you do not understand the reality of Christianity.

What a patently sweeping generalization of meaninglessness you have there. Talk about pontificating.

It is an attempt to deceive the Bible Only people.
Christianity did not stop at the last page of the Bible. If so Protestantism is an invalid religion….because it happened after the last page of the Bible.

Protestantism isn't a progression of new ideas. It is a reform movement based on what was believed to be original orthodoxy—not so with Sunday sacredness.

90+% of prophesying has always been to remind folks to observe what had already been revealed, anyway.

It all has been explained in detail….the Lord’s Day and Sunday observance developed after the Biblical era.

Explaining, even in infinite detail, how error developed would do absolutely nothing toward justifying it—even if your explanation were accurate.

Christians have been observing Sunday as the Lord’s Day ever since the end of the 1st century and early Christian writers attest to this and take objection to observing the Jewish Saturday Sabbath.

The veracity of "early Christian writers'" attestations and objections may be of some value to some folks, but Scripture was written by holy men of God as they were moved by the Holy Ghost, which seems like far better credentials.

And I doubt even your "early Christian writers" would stare down the One who wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger with their attestations and objections.

And, yes, I know of your own odd ball objections to the origin of God's law.

Speaking of which:

It is the odd ball denominations that cropped up in more modern times that observe the Jewish Saturday Sabbath….the Seventh day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses.

St. Patrick and many of the Celtic churches kept the 7th-day Sabbath after the Constantinian upheaval, as did the the Waldensians of Italy and France nearly 1000 years ago.

And why wouldn't they? It's the natural thing to do when the Bible is the only voice heard commending the rule of faith and practice for consideration, which is nearly impossible or, at least, hardly imaginable in today's plugged-in global village.

Of course, the Seventh Day Baptists cropped up in the "more modern times" of approximately the year 1650 (which is where early Adventists got it from 200 years later).

And, yeah, the Jehovah's Witnesses, they're known far and wide for their "Sabbath Judaizing." :jest:

I guess as long as you're busting on something or someone, it doesn't really matter whether you know what you're talking about or not.

"Johnny Appleseed of Truth," is it? Be good and do good...

Right. :rolleyes:

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Protestantism isn't a progression of new ideas. It is a reform movement based on what was believed to be original orthodoxy—not so with Sunday sacredness.

30,000 thousand of them and none of them are new? LOL 30,000 original orthodoxies. Pin the tail on the donkey?
 

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Explaining, even in infinite detail, how error developed would do absolutely nothing toward justifying it—even if your explanation were accurate.

I do not have to debate this, Christian history is on my side….

Early Christian writers are on my side testifying that Christian worshipped on the Lord’s Day and they spoke against Christians worshipping on the Jewish Saturday Sabbath.

Nearly 2000 years of Christians worshiping on Sunday.

99.999% of Protestants agree with me that Sunday is the Lord’s Day and the day of worship for Christians.

You are just one of those odd beliefs out there.

For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2nd Timothy 4:3-4

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.
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But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Their condemnation from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep. 2nd Peter 2:1-3