Is the claim of only one God false? - How many gods are there?

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David Lamb

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Nothing comes to mind.
It's obvious to me, but your mind is already made up. So... ???

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So it seems your argument that Molech, Baal, etc, were fallen angels with Satan is based on silence. In several places the bible talks about heathen gods as the work of men's hands. That seems to me to indicate that they cannot be fallen angels, because angels were created by God.
 

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So it seems your argument that Molech, Baal, etc, were fallen angels with Satan is based on silence. In several places the bible talks about heathen gods as the work of men's hands. That seems to me to indicate that they cannot be fallen angels, because angels were created by God.
Here's one. The Greek Lexicon says Beelzebul, the prince of demons, is a god. (dung-god)

Matthew 12:24-27 NIV
But when the Pharisees heard this, they said,
It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons,
that this fellow drives out demons.”
25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them,
“Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined,
and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.
26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself.
How then can his kingdom stand?
27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul,
by whom do your people drive them out?
So then, they will be your judges.

Lexical Summary
Beelzeboul: Beelzebul, Beelzebub
Original Word: Βεελζεβούλ
Part of Speech: Proper Noun, Indeclinable
Transliteration: Beelzeboul
Pronunciation: beh-el-zeb-ool'
Phonetic Spelling: (beh-el-zeb-ool')
KJV: Beelzebub
NASB: Beelzebul

Word Origin: [of Chaldee origin (by parody on H1176 (בַּעַל זְבוּב - Baal-zebub))]

1. dung-god
2. Beelzebul, a name of Satan

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Beelzebub.
Of Chaldee origin (by parody on Ba'al Zbuwb); dung-god; Beelzebul, a name of Satan -- Beelzebub.

see HEBREW Ba'al Zbuwb

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Beelzeboúl (translaterated from OT 1176/BaʽalZebūb, "the lord of flies" or "fly-god," cf. 2 Ki 1:2) – Beelzebul, a title of Satan which stresses he is the prince over demons ("demonic flies"). See also 4567 /Satanás ("Satan").

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Here's one. The Greek Lexicon says Beelzebul, the prince of demons, is a god. (dung-god)

Matthew 12:24-27 NIV
But when the Pharisees heard this, they said,
It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons,
that this fellow drives out demons.”
25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them,
“Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined,
and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.
26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself.
How then can his kingdom stand?
27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul,
by whom do your people drive them out?
So then, they will be your judges.

Lexical Summary
Beelzeboul: Beelzebul, Beelzebub
Original Word: Βεελζεβούλ
Part of Speech: Proper Noun, Indeclinable
Transliteration: Beelzeboul
Pronunciation: beh-el-zeb-ool'
Phonetic Spelling: (beh-el-zeb-ool')
KJV: Beelzebub
NASB: Beelzebul

Word Origin: [of Chaldee origin (by parody on H1176 (בַּעַל זְבוּב - Baal-zebub))]

1. dung-god
2. Beelzebul, a name of Satan

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Beelzebub.
Of Chaldee origin (by parody on Ba'al Zbuwb); dung-god; Beelzebul, a name of Satan -- Beelzebub.

see HEBREW Ba'al Zbuwb

HELPS Word-studies
954
Beelzeboúl (translaterated from OT 1176/BaʽalZebūb, "the lord of flies" or "fly-god," cf. 2 Ki 1:2) – Beelzebul, a title of Satan which stresses he is the prince over demons ("demonic flies"). See also 4567 /Satanás ("Satan").

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I'd forgotten that one. Thanks for pointing it out. Generally though, the false gods are described in the bible as idols, the works of men's hands.
 
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