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Is the claim of only one God false? - How many gods are there?
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It's obvious to me, but your mind is already made up. So... ???
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David Lamb
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So it seems your argument that Molech, Baal, etc, were fallen angels with Satan is based on silence. In several places the bible talks about heathen gods as the work of men's hands. That seems to me to indicate that they cannot be fallen angels, because angels were created by God.
Here's one. The Greek Lexicon says Beelzebul, the prince of demons, is a god. (dung-god)
Matthew 12:24-27 NIV
But when the Pharisees heard this, they said,
“It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons,
that this fellow drives out demons.”
25 Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them,
“Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined,
and every city or household divided against itself will not stand.
26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself.
How then can his kingdom stand?
27 And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul,
by whom do your people drive them out?
So then, they will be your judges.
Lexical Summary
Beelzeboul: Beelzebul, Beelzebub
Original Word: Βεελζεβούλ
Part of Speech: Proper Noun, Indeclinable
Transliteration: Beelzeboul
Pronunciation: beh-el-zeb-ool'
Phonetic Spelling: (beh-el-zeb-ool')
KJV: Beelzebub
NASB: Beelzebul
Word Origin: [of Chaldee origin (by parody on H1176 (בַּעַל זְבוּב - Baal-zebub))]
1. dung-god
2. Beelzebul, a name of Satan
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance
Beelzebub.
Of Chaldee origin (by parody on Ba'al Zbuwb); dung-god; Beelzebul, a name of Satan -- Beelzebub.
see HEBREW Ba'al Zbuwb
HELPS Word-studies
954 Beelzeboúl (translaterated from OT 1176/BaʽalZebūb, "the lord of flies" or "fly-god," cf. 2 Ki 1:2) – Beelzebul, a title of Satan which stresses he is the prince over demons ("demonic flies"). See also 4567 /Satanás ("Satan").
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David Lamb
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I'd forgotten that one. Thanks for pointing it out. Generally though, the false gods are described in the bible as idols, the works of men's hands.
As Christians, we recognize the one true God,
creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?
Doesn't that tell us right there that there are other gods? How many and for what purposes?
How many of these entities in the spiritual realm are there?
In ancient times there was a god for everything. Literally thousands of them.
The sun, all the planets and some of the stars. Agriculture and fertility (human and animal), anything and everything.
- Does the claim of only one God ring true?
- How many gods are there?
- What are they?
- Do they have an effect on our lives today?
The Apostle Paul even used this to his advantage.
Acts 17:22-23 NIV
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said:
“People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship,
I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god.
So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—
and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.
creator of heaven and earth. Beside Him there should be no other.
Wait, should be?
Doesn't that tell us right there that there are other gods? How many and for what purposes?
How many of these entities in the spiritual realm are there?
In ancient times there was a god for everything. Literally thousands of them.
The sun, all the planets and some of the stars. Agriculture and fertility (human and animal), anything and everything.
- Does the claim of only one God ring true?
- How many gods are there?
- What are they?
- Do they have an effect on our lives today?
The Apostle Paul even used this to his advantage.
Acts 17:22-23 NIV
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said:
“People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
23 For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship,
I even found an altar with this inscription: to an unknown god.
So you are ignorant of the very thing you worship—
and this is what I am going to proclaim to you.
There is only one true God, the Creator, which is triune.
Others so called gods are either folk imaginations or a title for powerful beings. Even many kings were called gods by the people (in Babylonia, Egypt, Rome...).
Why is idolatry a sin if there is only one true God?
1 Corinthians 8:4-6
So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols:
We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world”
and that “There is no God but one.”
5 For even if there are so-called gods,
whether in heaven or on earth
(as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),
6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father,
from whom all things came and for whom we live;
and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ,
through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Exactly because there is only one true God.
Yes, powerful people, kings... so called gods, so called lords. Not in our times, though, it was rather in the ancient cultures.
But I've asked who YOUR god is several times. NO ANSWER! I don't think you have a clue.
Jesus is God of the Bible. Get a clue before it's too late stevie. Hell fire is dead ahead. Don't believe in Hell either? You will.
St. SteVen said:
Why is idolatry a sin if there is only one true God?
Why is it a sin to worship something that does not exist?
Why is idolatry a sin if there is only one true God?
That infers that there are other gods. (gods that are not the one TRUE God)
Why is it a sin to worship something that does not exist?
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Grailhunter
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3 Gods on 3 thrones.
I believe in…
God the Father…Yahweh…God Almighty…Creator of Heaven and Earth and Adam and Eve…..
God the Son…Yeshua…the Son of God…Messiah…Savior…Redeemer.
The Holy Spirit…the unnamed God…helper…guide… teacher… strengthener….nurturer…..
The term Trinity was coined early on but was not defined as 3 in 1.
The 3 in 1 formula was developed by the Roman Catholic Church and sadly adopted by Protestants.
I believe in…
God the Father…Yahweh…God Almighty…Creator of Heaven and Earth and Adam and Eve…..
God the Son…Yeshua…the Son of God…Messiah…Savior…Redeemer.
The Holy Spirit…the unnamed God…helper…guide… teacher… strengthener….nurturer…..
The term Trinity was coined early on but was not defined as 3 in 1.
The 3 in 1 formula was developed by the Roman Catholic Church and sadly adopted by Protestants.
From the CYB Statement of Faith: "We believe that God is the Creator, Sustainer, and Ruler of the universe. We attest that God has eternally existed in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three are co-equal and are one God. (Genesis 1:1, 26-27, Genesis 3:22, Deuteronomy 6:4, Psalm 90:2, John 1:1, John 10:30, Romans 3:30, II Corinthians 13:14, I Peter 1:2)"
That's an interesting question.
Not sure that it has any bearing on the sin of idolatry.
Is it a sin to lust for a fictional character when you are UNmarried?
God many times compared His relationship with His people to marriage, so it has quite a lot in common, I would say.
Agreed.
But that has nothing to do with fictional characters.
Real adultery with real humans.
Is the Bible polytheistic? - Are there many gods, or only one?
We are all familiar with the first Commandment of the Ten given to Israel alone through Moses. “You shall have no other gods before [besides] me. - Exodus 20:3 NIV If there were other gods to have, that means there were other gods. Right? Therefore the Bible is making a polytheistic claim...
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Read your questions again and you will understand the point with the fictional characters... (hint: fictional gods/idols).
The covenant with God is being compared to the marriage covenant over and over again in the Bible.
I don't agree that the gods are fictional characters. (elohim)
Agree.
Some so called gods and lords were fictional (the most of folk paganism), some were titles for powerful people (kings, emperors - in Babylonia, Egypt, Rome, Assyria...).
Some could be something what Paul called"demons", but it is not clear what he meant.
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