Maybe he has a vivid imagination, maybe not, but you sidestepped his Scriptures.I have to say you have a vivid imagination Enoch is some areas of our discussions and posts.
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Maybe he has a vivid imagination, maybe not, but you sidestepped his Scriptures.I have to say you have a vivid imagination Enoch is some areas of our discussions and posts.
Scripture please.his intent that he rid himself of Jerusalem for good,
And can you tell me precisely what this scripture means marks and especially what was in store for literal Jerusalem and its inhabitants and the New Covenant? I would be not be so smug if I were you. Throwing in a grenade of scripture that is intended to blow in my face won't work. It's a dud. I will comment on your answer as you might expect.Who cares what I say? What did God say?
Isaiah 62:1-7 KJV
1) For Zion's sake will I not hold my peace, and for Jerusalem's sake I will not rest, until the righteousness thereof go forth as brightness, and the salvation thereof as a lamp that burneth.
2) And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.
3) Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the LORD, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.
4) Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken; neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
5) For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
6) I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
7) And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
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Have you not read a word I've said already, laced in scripture and even secular history, and now you say scripture please. Please, not the childish act.Scripture please.
Meanwhile . . .
Jeremiah 31:31-40 KJV
31) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34) And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
38) Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the city shall be built to the LORD from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
39) And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.
40) And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the LORD; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.
I'm curious, what city do you think He's speaking of here?
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When the MSM push the 6 million Jews subject as a Holocaust ? I do not take kindly to such being called such a definition, because a Holocaust means that it was a burnt offering ?Agree in whole. This State of Israel was created for the purpose of religious secular Anti-Christ deception as a fake weird replica of Israel with its fake city of Jerusalem (a major tourist trap) to entice the weak minded who are blinded by all the smoke and mirrors being pumped out of crooked mouths and other places of the the MSM, academia, fake Church Zionist organizations and God-hating Zionists in general. And there was never any systematic planned burned offering of 6 million so-called Jews. Another deep penetrating lie embedded and taken hold in the subconscious and consciences, the psyches of most people, in every generation.
No, God did not rid Himself of Jerusalem for good. Just as Jerusalem was rebuilt after the Babylonian captivity, Jerusalem has been rebuilt (after the Romans destroyed it) since Israel became a nation-state. The Crusaders tried to recapture Jerusalem from the Muslims but failed. Eventually Palestine went under Ottoman rule, and then became a British Protectorate until 1948. But that is not the end of the story. Modern Israel (by and large) consists of unbelieving Jews and Arabs. That will not remain forever. After (a) "the time of Jacob's trouble" and (b) the Second Coming of Christ Jerusalem on earth will be redeemed and restored.You are deliberately defying his word and his intent that he rid himself of Jerusalem for good, nearly 2000 years ago.
Isaiah 2:2-5 ,,its setting is after the new heavens and the new earth come in, not in the last days before this time. And there still is and will be never any literal physical city under the old heavens and old earth, in the last days of this age.
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It speaks for itself. If you don't accept what it says that's up to you.And can you tell me precisely what this scripture means marks and especially what was in store for literal Jerusalem and its inhabitants and the New Covenant? I would be not be so smug if I were you. Throwing in a grenade of scripture that is intended to blow in my face won't work. It's a dud. I will comment on your answer as you might expect.
The Bible is explicit that God will preserve Israel, and fulfill His promises and covenant with Israel, and including Jerusalem. I've posted several passages that say exactly that, explicitly.and his intent that he rid himself of Jerusalem for good, nearly 2000 years ago.
Yes, I think I do know what you are saying here, thank you for asking! But it's always a good think to make sure!So you think that when Jesus spoke of the destruction of the city of Jerusalem it had no significance to all nations including the then national tribes of Israel? Jerusalem was destroyed for a real purpose marks, more that you evidently know and based on scripture. It was the end of an age. Do you know what I am saying here?
What you wrote is a distraction and has nothing to do with with your previous post and my response to it. You are quite confusing. Please stay on topic and reread what I responded to before. It had one purpose and has nothing to do with following their own gods...where did this subject just suddenly pop up! Like I said confusing. Your are trying to rationalize your meaning of your previous post that I responded to...The parallel prophecy is clearer APAK, it points out that the kings of the earth are still ruling and peoples are serving their false gods: (Micah 4:5) . . .For all the peoples will walk, each in the name of its god, But we will walk in the name of Jehovah our God forever and ever.
If that don't convince you, that is all I can do sir, time will reveal the truth of the matter.
ugh....well done in again not answering my post to you.It speaks for itself. If you don't accept what it says that's up to you.
6) I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence,
7) And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.
There are so many like this, I've posted others. As long as the sun and the moon and the stars, all that. Blowing up duds, whatever, these are just quotes from the Bible, and either you accept them or you don't.
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Now Israel is another kettle of fish. And your definition of Israel today is most probably quite different than mine. Hint, the national tribes of Israel were not actually Israel of spirit and in the body of Christ, and they were never really purposed to carry this title - in Christ who is the head and leader of Israel.The Bible is explicit that God will preserve Israel, and fulfill His promises and covenant with Israel, and including Jerusalem. I've posted several passages that say exactly that, explicitly.
I'm asking for a Scripture that will tell me God's intent to rid Himself of Jerusalem for good. Were there to be such a passage, that would become very problematic as there are all of these that say otherwise.
Rather than supply that for me, you call me childish for asking. That speaks!
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The Bible does not say anything about God supporting the continuation of Judaism (since it is a rejection of Christ). But don't confuse Judaism with a believing remnant of Israel. And how can Jerusalem be "fake" when that city has been in existence for over 4,000 years?There is no scripture and God's desire supporting the continuation of Pharisaicism/Judaism today and in the same damned ground that this fake Jerusalem now sit upon.
One of the problems with your reasoning is that you 'see' scripture say the believing remnant of Israel being propelled into the future, beyond the 1st century for your futurist theory of prophecy. That is a big assumption indeed. Scripture never implies this at all. And because it would frankly make no sense logically and not in a scriptural sense if you follow the path and plan of God into the future.The Bible does not say anything about God supporting the continuation of Judaism (since it is a rejection of Christ). But don't confuse Judaism with a believing remnant of Israel. And how can Jerusalem be "fake" when that city has been in existence for over 4,000 years?
Melchizedek met Abraham and blessed him. He was King of "Salem" (or King of Jerusalem) back in about 2,000 BC. The very same Jerusalem -- the city on a hill - is presently occupied by mainly unbelieving Jews and Arabs. But that will all change AFTER the Second Coming of Christ. So you are the one who does not believe the Bible.
What you wrote is a distraction and has nothing to do with with your previous post and my response to it. You are quite confusing. Please stay on topic and reread what I responded to before. It had one purpose and has nothing to do with following their own gods...where did this subject just suddenly pop up! Like I said confusing. Your are trying to rationalize your meaning of your previous post that I responded to...
So what are you trying to convince me of, that I said these things you spoke of are not for the 'last days' as you define them? They are for when the new heavens and earth are present. What has that response of mine got to do with following false gods.....you have not completed your thoughts on this topic evidently and that is why I say..ugh.
By your second paragraph you clearly see the relevance of my post sir. It is the same prophecy penned by a different penman, but as in many other cases in the Bible comparing different accounts of the same topic yields a better understanding. You say it is not this time period, I say it is and Micah confirms that the governments will still be here and people will be worshipping many different gods. That will not be happening when the Kingdom comes APAK
You are in err again marks. I never once said God would cast out his spiritual seed of Israel promised to Abraham. His physical seed yes, of course. And there is scripture of course you can find to know this as fact. You must know this already I take it.@APAK,
I've posted Scripture that says God will never cast out the seed of Israel for anything they have done. Why would God cast them out?
You've claimed He will, that His intent was to destroy Jerusalem permanently. But no Scripture to say that.
So there is our impasse.
My passage, one of them, Jeremiah 31 as posted above.
Yours?
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