Is this going to be the mark of the beast?

[Cristo Rei]

Im not sure if this has been spoken about on this forum.

The longer this lockdown continues the more we hear about this vaccine that is going to "save the world". There is talk that it might be ready by Christmas.

Im not sure how that is possible, how will they know what it may do to us after 3 years, 30 years. How will they know that it will be ok with my medication or his condition, etc.

They want to mandate the vaccine, but their not saying it yet. They also want to implement some form of digital ID to keep track of who has been vaccinated or not.

Here Bill Gates is talking about it as well as the CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis

They cannot mandate the vaccine is it goes against the Nuremberg code, the constitution and several laws including a patients rights. With children they blackmailed parents into vaccinating their kids by blacklisting them from schools if they didn't comply, a form of discrimination

Without this digital ID people will not be able to buy or sell anything. It's this detail which has people comparing it to the mark of the beast

It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13: 16-17

So what do u think? Is this the mark of the beast that is described in Revelation?
What will u do if they freeze your bank accounts and prohibit you from selling or buying anything? What will u do if they imprison people who refuse to vaccinate?

 

[Enoch111]

The longer this lockdown continues the more we hear about this vaccine that is going to "save the world". There is talk that it might be ready by Christmas.

More NONSENSE from the Globalist elites, who have absolutely no interest in saving the world. More like sending the world to Hell.

And Donald Trump has fallen right into their trap. Now the focus will be on this ephemeral vaccine, so that Bill Gates and Fauci can rake in millions, and attention is diverted from all the criminals in the DOJ and FBI who should have already been arrested, and prosecutions should have been taking place right now, after the bombshell revelations which came out last week. Then the focus would not be on Trump and all his mistakes but on Obama and all his crimes and criminal cronies.

Once again Mr. Trump has sabotaged himself by even talking about a vaccine. Since previous flu vaccines are no more than 40% effective (which means that 60% of those being vaccinated could still become very sick or even die), what makes anyone think that now there will be a silver bullet for COVID-19? This is also meant to distract people from what governments and governors are doing to take away their liberties and impose tyranny.

 

[Cristo Rei]

Once again Mr. Trump has sabotaged himself by even talking about a vaccine

It is possible that the Donald knows or suspects what is going on and is waiting for the right time when he has all his evidence on hand
I hope so anyway cos im not sure if there is anyone else that is powerful enough to stop all this and expose it

I was thinking of what the worse case scenario would be if the vaxx was mandated
My answer was the end of humanity due to a poisonous vaccine

Now just recently I heard Dr Buttar voicing the same concerns. It really gave me the chills to hear it come from a doctor

 

[Enoch111]

Now just recently I heard Dr Buttar voicing the same concerns. It really gave me the chills to hear it come from a doctor

Dr. Michael Savage has come out strongly against this vaccine also.

 

[Cristo Rei]

Dr. Michael Savage has come out strongly against this vaccine also.

Dr Shiva Ayyadurai is another outspoken doctor that has been dropping truth bombs about C19

 

[Enoch111]

Dr Shiva Ayyadurai is another outspoken doctor that has been dropping truth bombs about C19

And in case you have missed this, Dr. Zelenko's treatment is now public knowledge, but Mr. Trump is backing Gilead/Fauci's Remdesivir.

Dr. Zelenko's miracle cures coronavirus

March 31, 2020
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, after he successfully treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100 percent success using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin (Z-Pak), an antibiotic to treat secondary infections, and zinc sulfate. Dr. Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment.

Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated, zero patients died, zero patients intubated, and four hospitalizations.

Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success. He defines success as “Not to die.” Dr. Zelenko first posted his Facebook video message last week calling on President Trump to “advise the country that they should be taking this medication.”

There are many other success stories about hydroxychloroquine across the country. Last week, Dr. William Grace, an oncologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, said they’ve not had a single death in their hospital because of hydroxychloroquine. “Thanks to hydroxychloroquine, we have not had a death in our hospital,’ Dr. Grace said.

Also, in a study conducted by the National Institute of Health (NIH) also confirmed some of Dr. Zelenko’s findings. The study by NIH showed that Zinc supplementation decreases the morbidity of lower respiratory tract infection in pediatric patients in the developing world. A second study also conducted by NIH titled: “In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2),” also showed hydroxychloroquine to be more potent in killing the virus off in vitro (in the test tube and not in the body).

Below is a video of his latest interview explaining the success of the treatment.

Dr. Zelenko's miracle cures coronavirus | 14 Street Medical

 

[historyb]

So what do u think? Is this the mark of the beast that is described in Revelation?

I don't think so. I think Revelation happened a long time ago. What I do think is the goal is to destroy the United States, The Constitution, and people's freedom and they found the formula - absolute fear, make the populace afraid really afraid of something they can't see and they will happily give their freedom away in the name of safety. When fear comes in the powers that be found out also faith goes away.

 

[Cristo Rei]

And in case you have missed this, Dr. Zelenko's treatment is now public knowledge, but Mr. Trump is backing Gilead/Fauci's Remdesivir.

Dr. Zelenko's miracle cures coronavirus

March 31, 2020
Dr. Vladimir Zelenko has now treated 699 coronavirus patients with 100% success using Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate, Zinc and Z-Pak

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, a board-certified family practitioner in New York, after he successfully treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100 percent success using a cocktail of drugs: hydroxychloroquine, in combination with azithromycin (Z-Pak), an antibiotic to treat secondary infections, and zinc sulfate. Dr. Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours after treatment.

Now, Dr. Zelenko provides updates on the treatment after he successfully treated 699 COVID-19 patients in New York. In an exclusive interview with former New York Mayor, Rudy Giuliani, Dr. Vladmir Zelenko shares the results of his latest study, which showed that out of his 699 patients treated, zero patients died, zero patients intubated, and four hospitalizations.

Dr. Zelenko said the whole treatment costs only $20 over a period of 5 days with 100% success. He defines success as “Not to die.” Dr. Zelenko first posted his Facebook video message last week calling on President Trump to “advise the country that they should be taking this medication.”

There are many other success stories about hydroxychloroquine across the country. Last week, Dr. William Grace, an oncologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, said they’ve not had a single death in their hospital because of hydroxychloroquine. “Thanks to hydroxychloroquine, we have not had a death in our hospital,’ Dr. Grace said.

Also, in a study conducted by the National Institute of Health (NIH) also confirmed some of Dr. Zelenko’s findings. The study by NIH showed that Zinc supplementation decreases the morbidity of lower respiratory tract infection in pediatric patients in the developing world. A second study also conducted by NIH titled: “In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2),” also showed hydroxychloroquine to be more potent in killing the virus off in vitro (in the test tube and not in the body).

Below is a video of his latest interview explaining the success of the treatment.

Dr. Zelenko's miracle cures coronavirus | 14 Street Medical

I know there have been several doctors worldwide that have given positive reports of Hydroxychloroquine based treatments
But Fauci and co kept rejecting it and have now pulled out this Remdesivir that only reduces the recovery time from 15 to 11 days

Eventually, when everything reopens, all of us will get C19 either with or without symptoms.
That will make us immune but the people at risk will want to remain isolated probably

 

[Enoch111]

I think Revelation happened a long time ago.

Then how come we have evil Gates and Fauci crawling around? If the prophecies of Revelation have all been fulfilled we should now be in the New Heavens and the New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness.

 

[Enoch111]

I know there have been several doctors worldwide that have given positive reports of Hydroxychloroquine based treatments

Here's some more information to back up what you said:
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons contends another way to slow the spread is through the proven antimalaria drug hydroxychloroquine, which, in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin, is being used as a prophylactic in some countries.

A total of 2,333 patients have been administered the drugs in studies in China, France, South Korea, Algeria and the U.S. Of these, 2,137 or 91.6%, improved clinically...Peer-reviewed studies published from January through April 20, 2020, show hydroxychloroquine may be beneficial in COVID-19, especially when used early.
WHO envoy: We may never develop a coronavirus vaccine - WND

But Fauci and co kept rejecting it and have now pulled out this Remdesivir that only reduces the recovery time from 15 to 11 days

The disturbing thing right now is that even though Fauci and Gates are part of a worldwide conspiracy, the Trump administration is refusing to acknowledge this fact and doing nothing to have them investigated. Which is going to boomerang on Trump sooner or later.

 

[Cristo Rei]

The disturbing thing right now is that even though Fauci and Gates are part of a worldwide conspiracy, the Trump administration is refusing to acknowledge this fact and doing nothing to have them investigated. Which is going to boomerang on Trump sooner or later.

Lets think about this for a minute...
If the Donald was to come out and accuse Fauci and Gates of wrong doing with no evidence then his gone.
The dems and the mainstream would come down on him hard as well as his own party.

If his going to come out with such allegations he needs really good evidence. I think he's collecting that evidence

- Trump has always been a vaccine skeptic. By the way Gates and Trump talk about each other i don't think they had good meetings and i don't think they've met often. Gates says that Trump was about to investigate vaccines and he told him that he doesn't need to
- 3 years ago Trump was about to appoint Robert Kennedy Jr to chair a commission on vaccine safety but it never happened. Robert would have surely spoke to Trump about his concerns about corruption in the vaccine industry
- So im sure that Trump knows that Gates has invested so much into vaccines, the WHO, the media and lobbying.
- Im sure that Trump knows or has at least heard of Gates' botched trials in Asia and Africa.
- Im sure that Trump knows where Fauci has his money invested and his relationship with Gates
- Im sure Trump knows that the vaccine makers are exempt from liability
- Im sure Trump knows about the vaccine injury compensation
- Im sure Trump knows about the cosy relationship between CDC and big pharma
- Trump knows that Gates and Fauci predicted this pandemic
- Trump has seen that the prediction models were wildly inaccurate
- Trump knows that the WHO turned their backs on the world to side with China
- Trump knows of the latest data that shows that there are even more cases of C19 which makes the death to cases rate even lower
- Trump knows about the tampering with death certificates to put C19 as the cause on everything
- Trump knows that the clearing of hospitals and addition ventilators was an exaggeration
- Trump knows there are many people who are unemployed and suffering
- Trump knows that the virus came out of Wuhan lab
- Trump knows that Fauci sent Wuhan lab 3.7 million and has him under investigation
- Trump knows that the NIH spent millions on unknown and has that under investigation

Trump knows all this and more. At the least he must be suspicious.
But i think he must know what is happening. He's waiting for the investigation into Fauci and NIH to conclude
He's gathering evidence to present his case and he'll reveal it at the right time
He's in a very delicate situation and he needs to play his card right

 

[historyb]

Then how come we have evil Gates and Fauci crawling around? If the prophecies of Revelation have all been fulfilled we should now be in the New Heavens and the New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness.

No, Revelations is a symbolic book that was not written to us but to the 1st century Christians. While it is profitable for us it was not to us nor is it literal. People like them have been around forever and they not by any stretch that bad. Hitler, pol pot, and others were much worse. People have been saying it is the end forever never to happen because they all misinterpreted the Scriptures

 

[Enoch111]

No, Revelations is a symbolic book that was not written to us but to the 1st century Christians.

You are VERY SERIOUSLY MISTAKEN. Since the Lord Jesus Christ prophetically showed events from the destruction of the temple to the Second Coming OF Christ in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24), and both Daniel and Revelation correspond to these prophecies, they did not culminate in the first century.

The Second Coming of Christ is a future event, and if you don't believe that, then you really have no idea of what is revealed in the Bible.

 

[historyb]

You are VERY SERIOUSLY MISTAKEN. Since the Lord Jesus Christ prophetically showed events from the destruction of the temple to the Second Coming OF Christ in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24), and both Daniel and Revelation correspond to these prophecies, they did not culminate in the first century.

I am not mistaken, it is you all who look at Scripture quite wrong.

The Second Coming of Christ is a future event, and if you don't believe that, then you really have no idea of what is revealed in the Bible.

I believe the second Coming is future. I don't believe in evangelical literal ideas of something that was never written to us. The Bible is not about the future, it is the history of Salvation history and how we as Christians should behave.

 

[jshiii]

Im not sure if this has been spoken about on this forum.

The longer this lockdown continues the more we hear about this vaccine that is going to "save the world". There is talk that it might be ready by Christmas.

Im not sure how that is possible, how will they know what it may do to us after 3 years, 30 years. How will they know that it will be ok with my medication or his condition, etc.

They want to mandate the vaccine, but their not saying it yet. They also want to implement some form of digital ID to keep track of who has been vaccinated or not.

Here Bill Gates is talking about it as well as the CEO of the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis

They cannot mandate the vaccine is it goes against the Nuremberg code, the constitution and several laws including a patients rights. With children they blackmailed parents into vaccinating their kids by blacklisting them from schools if they didn't comply, a form of discrimination

Without this digital ID people will not be able to buy or sell anything. It's this detail which has people comparing it to the mark of the beast

It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13: 16-17

So what do u think? Is this the mark of the beast that is described in Revelation?
What will u do if they freeze your bank accounts and prohibit you from selling or buying anything? What will u do if they imprison people who refuse to vaccinate?

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[Cristo Rei]

Revelations is a symbolic book that was not written to us but to the 1st century Christians

What is your evidence for this?
What kind of symbolism was John trying to convey to the 1st century Christians in the book of Revelation?

I believe the second Coming is future

Do u acknowledge that Revelation describes the second coming of Christ?

The word "revelation" comes from the word "reveal".
John makes this prophecy on the basis that it was revealed to him by God. That's why it's called the book of Revelation
@Enoch111 also made a good point in that the prophecy of Daniel coincidences with the prophecy of John

I am not mistaken, it is you all who look at Scripture quite wrong.

The book of Revelation has been interpreted as a prophecy since it was written.
It is the position of the Catholic and Orthodox churches and I think the Protestant churches are also in agreement

So i would say that coming out and claiming that everyone in the last 2000 years has been wrong would require some overwhelming evidence.
Do u have such evidence?

 

[Timtofly]

Lets think about this for a minute...
If the Donald was to come out and accuse Fauci and Gates of wrong doing with no evidence then his gone.
The dems and the mainstream would come down on him hard as well as his own party.

If his going to come out with such allegations he needs really good evidence. I think he's collecting that evidence

- Trump has always been a vaccine skeptic. By the way Gates and Trump talk about each other i don't think they had good meetings and i don't think they've met often. Gates says that Trump was about to investigate vaccines and he told him that he doesn't need to
- 3 years ago Trump was about to appoint Robert Kennedy Jr to chair a commission on vaccine safety but it never happened. Robert would have surely spoke to Trump about his concerns about corruption in the vaccine industry
- So im sure that Trump knows that Gates has invested so much into vaccines, the WHO, the media and lobbying.
- Im sure that Trump knows or has at least heard of Gates' botched trials in Asia and Africa.
- Im sure that Trump knows where Fauci has his money invested and his relationship with Gates
- Im sure Trump knows that the vaccine makers are exempt from liability
- Im sure Trump knows about the vaccine injury compensation
- Im sure Trump knows about the cosy relationship between CDC and big pharma
- Trump knows that Gates and Fauci predicted this pandemic
- Trump has seen that the prediction models were wildly inaccurate
- Trump knows that the WHO turned their backs on the world to side with China
- Trump knows of the latest data that shows that there are even more cases of C19 which makes the death to cases rate even lower
- Trump knows about the tampering with death certificates to put C19 as the cause on everything
- Trump knows that the clearing of hospitals and addition ventilators was an exaggeration
- Trump knows there are many people who are unemployed and suffering
- Trump knows that the virus came out of Wuhan lab
- Trump knows that Fauci sent Wuhan lab 3.7 million and has him under investigation
- Trump knows that the NIH spent millions on unknown and has that under investigation

Trump knows all this and more. At the least he must be suspicious.
But i think he must know what is happening. He's waiting for the investigation into Fauci and NIH to conclude
He's gathering evidence to present his case and he'll reveal it at the right time
He's in a very delicate situation and he needs to play his card right

I would say he could pre-emptively start ww3, just like Israel did in 1967. I was born on June 10th that year. A nice birthday present this year. I don't ask for much... Anyways that is God's plan, and as some have mentioned and no one, not even Satan can change it. Well God could change it and prove the post people correct. Although logically how can it be post anything if that anything never happened? I could never figure that impossibility out.

 

[Waiting on him]

Then how come we have evil Gates and Fauci crawling around? If the prophecies of Revelation have all been fulfilled we should now be in the New Heavens and the New Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness.

That's reserved for those who are in Christ, as Paul states .

 

[Waiting on him]

I am not mistaken, it is you all who look at Scripture quite wrong.



I believe the second Coming is future. I don't believe in evangelical literal ideas of something that was never written to us. The Bible is not about the future, it is the history of Salvation history and how we as Christians should behave.

I would say it why it is called a testament?

 

[Waiting on him]

The word "revelation" comes from the word "reveal".
John makes this prophecy on the basis that it was revealed to him by God. That's why it's called the book of Revelation
@Enoch111 also made a good point in that the prophecy of Daniel coincidences with the prophecy of John

Revelation 1:1 KJV
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Revealed to whom?