Israel "the promised land"
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Davy
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I know where He will return, for He told us, but it's in the Old Testament prophets, and not in The New Testament Scripture.
Thing is though, He also told His faithful saints that a pseudo-Christ is coming to Jerusalem first with the power of great signs and wonders with the whole world worshiping that false one as God (i.e., Messiah), except His faithful elect will not fall away to that false Messiah because their names were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world..
Jesus even hinted about that coming false-Messiah at Jerusalem to the blind foreigner-false-Jew scribes and Pharisees that crept into Moses' seat...
John 5:43
43 I am come in My Father's name, and ye receive Me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
KJV
Davy
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Lord Jesus is coming to end Satan's control of the land which The Father long... ago claimed He will dwell at forever, Jerusalem. If you cannot grasp what it is that Satan and his host of angels are getting ready to come to earth and do in Jerusalem (i.e., to play God), then it means you are Biblically ignorant of what Satan originally did to rebel against God in the old world that made him fall. See God's parable about Satan in Ezekiel 28 where God is using the "king of Tyrus" as a type for Satan in the old world.
David in NJ
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#1 - Because of what JESUS PROPHECIED to the Jews in Matthew chapters 21 thru 23 = refresh yourself in those chapters
#2 - Zechariah chapters 13 thru 14
Davy
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Also, just so you know, if you study your Old Testament history in 1 Kings 11 when God split the old nation of Israel into two separate kingdoms in Solomon's day, then you will read where God said He would always leave ONE TRIBE at Jerusalem for Jerusalem's and David's sakes. So there has always been a small remnant of TRUE JEWS dwelling in Judea-Jerusalem, even to this day, and they are Israelites of the seed. But they are not in control of today's nation of Israel, even though the majority of them also still reject Lord Jesus as Messiah.
Let's try again: "Then why will Jesus FIGHT for Israel and DESTROY the Israel wannabees?"
Zechariah 14:1-12
1 Behold, the day of the LORD is coming, ...
2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; ...
3 Then the LORD will go forth And fight against those nations, As He fights in the day of battle.
4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which faces Jerusalem on the east.
12 And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
NO MORE ISRAEL WANNABEES!
And He brought them Home again just as He said He would. They are Home to stay!
Amos 9:14-15
14 I will bring back the captives of My people Israel; They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them; They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them; They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
Davy
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Go a bit further down in Zech.14 and you will find that not all of those of the armies that come up against Jerusalem will be destroyed on that "day of the Lord" when Jesus returns. The leftovers will be made to come up to Jerusalem from year to year during Christ's Millennial reign and worship Him as The KING, and they will also keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
David in NJ
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Davy
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But which people is God talking about there through His prophet Amos, those who only CLAIM to be Jews of the seed, or about the actual true seed of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi which were the ones who used the title of Jew for themselves? If you don't understand this difference that Jesus showed, you'll never figure out why Jesus called the scribes and Pharisees that were against Him as being children of the devil, that their father was a murderer from the beginning (John 8). And that did not apply to all the Pharisees, for Nicodemus who provided spices for Jesus' burial was also a Pharisee, and Apostle Paul had been a Pharisee. God's Word gives a lot more detail than what is taught in most Churches today. It is up to the believer on our Lord Jesus to become one of His disciples studying His Word with discipline, which is where the word disciple originates.
Davy
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Another aspect of that prophecy through Amos is about the future gathering of the lost ten tribes of Israel, those who made up the majority of the tribes of Israel. Ezekiel 37 gives more detail about the final putting back together of the two separated 'houses', the ten tribe "house of Israel" and the three tribe "house of Judah"; and their being brought back to the land God promised their fathers, with David as their prince.
That won't help the wannabees trying to steal Israel's identity and Land of the Bible. The Land of the Bible is theirs and it will stay theirs. NOBODY can take it from them.
15 I will plant them in their land, And no longer shall they be pulled up From the land I have given them," Says the LORD your God.
And He did!
The Israel wannabees just keep TOOTING their own horns (LOOK AT ME), otherwise nobody would even notice them. The eyes of the World on TINY Israel, the Land of the Bible. They don't have to TOOT their horns, God does it for them in international news nearly every day!
It seems that there is a translation problem with the Hebrew word H:0127 which has the meaning of "reddish soil."
In the context of Amos 9:15 God will plant Israel in His fertile soil/field and no one will be able to take them from the fertile soil I have given them.
Shalom
In the context of Amos 9:15 God will plant Israel in His fertile soil/field and no one will be able to take them from the fertile soil I have given them.
Shalom
"Seems" to you! Not to our many English translations.
The Complete Jewish Bible
Amos 9:15 (CJB)
15 I will plant them on their own soil, no more to be uprooted from their land, which I gave them,” says Adonai your God.
You're playing word games. A little child could understand what God means.
What's next? God's gonna plant them in the ground?
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