It is what it shouldn't be

[Nancy]

You forgot to include verses that specifically instruct Christians to celebrate Jesus' birth or show verses that tells us it's sinful to not celebrate His birth.





Did you realize that as little as one ounce of alcohol changes how the brain functions and is the point in which intoxication begins?

Did you realize that medical science has proven that any amount of alcohol consumption is unhealthy and damages the body?

If a person is serious about living for the Lord recognizing they are not their own having been bought with a price and their body is the temple of the Holy Spirit - WHY would they want to put toxic substances in their body known to be damaging to the body?

Those who are NOT serious about belonging to the Lord would willingly defile their body with toxic substances. Sad for them.





Those advocating in favor of drinking the booze are in fact advocating for intoxication.

New Flash - the booze makes those drinking it intoxicated.

These people claiming to be Christians who drink the booze think they aren't engaging in intoxication unless they drank so much that their speech is slurred and they can hardly walk. They like to get their buzz on which is why they drink the booze.

It's very suspect and suspicious that they argue so hard for drinking the booze and get all upset when anybody says Christians should not drink the booze. These people behaving like addicts.




You said "Some of us actually "know" what the truth is" in your reply to Jay Ross.

I asked the simple question "What definition do we see in God's Word concerning truth?"

If you do not know what definition God's Word provides concerns what Truth is, then just say so.

I didn't say anything wrong, just asked a simple question.

Look at post #2!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

That's an argument from silence brother.

Ha ha, that's what the gay people claim when trying to justify their sexual perversion.

They claim being gay is A-OK because Jesus never specifically addressed their perversion.

The joke is on them because Jesus gave us the definition of marriage as being between 1 man and 1 woman as being the only time sexual activity is acceptable before the Lord meaning any and all things outside of the definition the Lord gave us is not acceptable to the Lord and as such is rejected.

The abortionists claim whacking babies is A-OK but the joke is on them because the Lord said in His Word that the shedding of innocent blood is an abomination unto Him (Proverbs 6:16-19) and none are more innocent that a little baby in the womb

The point here is the Lord never instructed anybody to make or observe a holiday based on His birth or His resurrection, nor does He have any repercussions listed in His Word for those that do not observe these m an made holidays.

This is all very similar to the Saturday Sabbath arguments - The Lord and His Apostles never instructed anybody to observe this either.

So people can observe these days if they want, but this can easily become idolatry and many have taken it that far and others go so far as to claim a person cannot be saved unless they observe these man-made holidays that the Lord never instructed anyone to observe and never said there were repercussions for the non observant

So now and then I eat a burger, according to your understanding of Scripture, is it a sin?

If you do not eat hamburgers in faith then yes it is a sin.

Romans 14:22,23
Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Look at post #2!

Here's Post #2

The question I asked is applicable to the original poster as well as to those that reposted what he said.

 

[Nancy]

Here's Post #2

The question I asked is applicable to the original poster as well as to those that reposted what he said.

Just cannot admit when you are wrong, can ya.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Just cannot admit when you are wrong, can ya.

I didn't say anything wrong.

I asked a question that you apparently cannot answer.

You reposted it. Maybe don't do that next time.

Make it in to a quote like I just quoted you

 

[Nancy]

I didn't say anything wrong.

I asked a question that you apparently cannot answer.

You reposted it. Maybe don't do that next time.

Make it in to a quote like I just quoted you

Oh my goodness...you said that I posted something that I clearly did not. Go on your merry little way bbj, I have nothing further to say...rhymes! haha.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

you said that I posted something that I clearly did not

I asked a question about a post you re-posted

Maybe don't do that next time seeing this sort of thing causes you so much frustration and consternation

 

[Wrangler]

LOL
I didn't really understand the OP and was just replying to a poster.
However, I have noticed that the OP has disappeared.

You also didn't like a thread of mine for lack of a thesis.

How could an OP NOT have a thesis?
It's someone making a statement (an idea)

Exactly! Copying and pasting is not a statement. BTW, a good OP contains more than a statement but a set of facts supporting a conclusion to be discussed. A hook, a question crystalizes the thesis. Let me give an example.

1. Since 1980, the US debt has increased dramatically faster than the US economy.
2. This financially enslaves future generations, meaning they have to live below their means in order to pay off the debt.
3. What kind or morality do people have who enslave their own descendants to live a higher lifestyle than they can afford?

 

[GodsGrace]

Did you realize that as little as one ounce of alcohol changes how the brain functions and is the point in which intoxication begins?

Did you realize that medical science has proven that any amount of alcohol consumption is unhealthy and damages the body?

If a person is serious about living for the Lord recognizing they are not their own having been bought with a price and their body is the temple of the Holy Spirit - WHY would they want to put toxic substances in their body known to be damaging to the body?

Those who are NOT serious about belonging to the Lord would willingly defile their body with toxic substances. Sad for them.

Do you dance?
wear expensive clothing?
allow your wife to wear make-up?
watch movies?
EVER tell a lie?
admire some woman in a physical sense?
speak about another person negatively?
wish you had your neighbor's new car?

If you've done any ONE of these,,,I'd be careful if I were you.

James 2:10
10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.


And this will be my last post to you on this STRAWMAN topic directed at me.

 

[GodsGrace]

Exactly! Copying and pasting is not a statement. BTW, a good OP contains more than a statement but a set of facts supporting a conclusion to be discussed. A hook, a question crystalizes the thesis. Let me give an example.

1. Since 1980, the US debt has increased dramatically faster than the US economy.
2. This financially enslaves future generations, meaning they have to live below their means in order to pay off the debt.
3. What kind or morality do people have who enslave their own descendants to live a higher lifestyle than they can afford?

Right...Can't think of what this is called right now. Wm Craig uses this method a lot.

I guess it would be nice.

But we can't all be philosophers!

An OP can be a thought someone had that he'd like to share and get some feedback.
It could be a question to which he'd like an answer to consider.

It could be anything Wrangler.
I've used the above method too - but not always.

Sometimes persons start out with the hook...
It's all valid in a Forum such as this.

But I see what you mean.

 

[Wrangler]

But we can't all be philosophers!

Writing a thesis statement does not require one to be a philosopher. Just carefully order ones thoughts.

It's all valid in a Forum such as this.

I didn't say it wasn't allowed, just not a good OP.

In college, my English professor said it took him 6 months to write his thesis statement. The rest of his thesis took 2 weeks.

 

[ScottA]

Jesus said the Holy Ghost would lead us in to ALL Truth (John 16:13),
and Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

These are not my particular passages, this is what Jesus said about Truth and what Truth is

I see what you posted here above, as being in agreement with what I posted in post #2 regarding truth.

But I am not sure that is really the kind of help that 2bme needs in response to his/her Original Post. What I posted was something non-biblical but organically true that agrees with the biblical principles he/she was addressing--as an offering of reason, that he/she might consider things where he/she is at (not necessarily prepared or willing to be respectful of scripture as even being true itself).

The offer still stands. There is, and has been, a core of actual truth given by God to people down through all the ages since the beginning of time--with actual God-to-person contact--with witnesses. Making the kind of speculations given in the Original Post (as if in a sea of unknown) unnecessary. Alternatively, if one is searching and thinking along those lines--there are real answers that can be known.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

If you've done any ONE of these,,,I'd be careful if I were you.

All my past sins have been washed away by the Blood of Jesus

I've forsaken my past sins and don't live after the flesh these days

James 2:10
10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all.

I'm a New Testament believer, not an old testament believer

And this will be my last post to you on this STRAWMAN topic directed at me.

Strawman = code for crybabies still on milk who need their diaper changed

Writing a thesis statement does not require one to be a philosopher. Just carefully order ones thoughts.

If they don't, you're gonna shoot em?

Those Itchy trigger finger people might start shooting at anytime

 

[GodsGrace]

Writing a thesis statement does not require one to be a philosopher. Just carefully order ones thoughts.


I didn't say it wasn't allowed, just not a good OP.

In college, my English professor said it took him 6 months to write his thesis statement. The rest of his thesis took 2 weeks.

Kind of like cooking....
Coming up with the menu is the difficult part...
the rest is easy.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Kind of like cooking....
Coming up with the menu is the difficult part...
the rest is easy.

That's exactly backwards.

Anybody can create a menu.

But it take skill to actually cook what's on the menu and it be good to eat.

 

[GodsGrace]

That's exactly backwards.

Anybody can create a menu.

But it take skill to actually cook what's on the menu and it be good to eat.

HOW does one create a menu if he doesn't know how to cook?

When creating a menu MANY factors must be taken into consideration.
If you don't know how to cook....
you will not be creating a menu.

 

[Nancy]

HOW does one create a menu if he doesn't know how to cook?
When creating a menu MANY factors must be taken into consideration.
If you don't know how to cook....
The menu would be easy, yes, if all those eating want and can have the same things.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

That's an argument from silence brother.

That's what the guy people claim as they say Jesus never spoke of homosexuality as being a sin.

Jesus actually did, but they don't accept all He says so they are ignorant.

For example, one can say that Jesus never mentions homosexuality, abortion, the environment or capital punishment for murder so those issues must not have been important to him. That is one conclusion, to be sure. But someone can also conclude from silence that because Jesus never mentions the issues he must have simply agreed with the Judaism of his day that homosexual practice was immoral and abortion was, in most cases (with some exceptions), prohibited, stewardship of creation was assumed as a duty in Judaism as well as execution for murder. So which one is it, and how can your argument from silence demonstrate which one it is?

God's Word actually teaches being gay is a sin and abortion is a sin.

Just because you don't know God's Word good enough to find it does not mean the Lord did not address these issues in His Word.

Google question : eating hamburgers unhealthy?

Why? I don't care

So now and then I eat a burger, according to your understanding of Scripture, is it a sin?

When you stand before the Lord you'll find out.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

HOW does one create a menu if he doesn't know how to cook?

The open up a Word Doc on their computer and start typing one up.

One does not need to even know what a kitchen is, much less know how to cook to be able to create a menu.

If you don't know how to cook....
you will not be creating a menu.

 

[GodsGrace]

The open up a Word Doc on their computer and start typing one up.

One does not need to even know what a kitchen is, much less know how to cook to be able to create a menu. View attachment 76968




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Oh. Good ole' internet.

So they CHEAT.

Maybe the internet could cook for you too....