Jesus became Immortal

[Hiddenthings]

@GRACE ambassador can you please lock this now. Thanks

 

[GRACE ambassador]

In short, Jesus is God’s Son, not God Himself

But, in long, precious friend, In ALL Scripture, The LORD Jesus Christ Is God Almighty! Who Humbled
Himself (To Become Son of man) For our Eternal Redemption!!

Amen.

 

[Hiddenthings]

But, in long, precious friend, In ALL Scripture, The LORD Jesus Christ Is God Almighty! Who Humbled
Himself (To Become Son of man) For our Eternal Redemption!!

Amen.

As nice as that sounds, Grace, it’s not actually what the original post confirmed. The verse you’re referring to doesn’t speak of God becoming a servant, but rather of Christ the Son setting aside the privileges that were rightfully His and taking on the role of a servant.

However, from my understanding this is a banned topic in this forum so happy to maintain my belief that God granted Jesus, immortality as taught by David, Jesus and Paul.

I might add the redemption Jesus obtained was in himself first that we might have life in him.

Hebrews 9:12 (ESV): “He entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.”

 

[rebuilder 454]

Is Jesus created, or creator.
No games or snippy little dodges.
Answer the question.

@Hiddenthings​

Still waiting. It could be the simplest question anybody has ever asked you. Surely you can try real hard and answer the question

 

[rebuilder 454]

"For as the Father has life in Himself, so He (God) has granted the Son also to have life in himself." — John 5:26

Do you see how this fully supports 1 Timothy 6:13 that God (singular) is the true giver of life?

Throughout Scripture, we see that God is greater than Christ (John 14:28), and that Jesus remains subordinate to the Father, though he reveals Him perfectly. Jesus was sent by God (via His HS Power), lived a sinless life, and now serves as the mediator between God and mankind (1 Timothy 2:5; John 17:3).

This understanding is supported by many passages:

• Jesus' dependence on the Father (John 5:26–30)
• His prayers of submission (Luke 22:42)
• God's role in raising him from the dead (Romans 4:24)
• His future subjection to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:24–28)
• And the distinction between God and Jesus in divine purpose (Ephesians 1:3,17; Revelation 1:1)

In short, Jesus is God’s Son, not God Himself, fully obedient, appointed, and glorified by the Father, who alone is the supreme source of life (Hosea 11:9; James 1:13; Titus 1:2; Hebrews 4:15).

@rebuilder 454 if God gave Jesus Immortality (Eternal Life) who is the Creator and who is the created?

I just wanna see if you can agree with the scriptures instead of trying to put God in a box.
so the question remains

is Jesus who the Bible says he is, the creator, or is he created.

 

[rebuilder 454]

"For as the Father has life in Himself, so He (God) has granted the Son also to have life in himself." — John 5:26

Do you see how this fully supports 1 Timothy 6:13 that God (singular) is the true giver of life?

Throughout Scripture, we see that God is greater than Christ (John 14:28), and that Jesus remains subordinate to the Father, though he reveals Him perfectly. Jesus was sent by God (via His HS Power), lived a sinless life, and now serves as the mediator between God and mankind (1 Timothy 2:5; John 17:3).

This understanding is supported by many passages:

• Jesus' dependence on the Father (John 5:26–30)
• His prayers of submission (Luke 22:42)
• God's role in raising him from the dead (Romans 4:24)
• His future subjection to the Father (1 Corinthians 15:24–28)
• And the distinction between God and Jesus in divine purpose (Ephesians 1:3,17; Revelation 1:1)

In short, Jesus is God’s Son, not God Himself, fully obedient, appointed, and glorified by the Father, who alone is the supreme source of life (Hosea 11:9; James 1:13; Titus 1:2; Hebrews 4:15).

@rebuilder 454 if God gave Jesus Immortality (Eternal Life) who is the Creator and who is the created?

God gave every human from Adam to all those in the future that die ,whether they're believers, or unbelievers..... every single human is immortal after death.

so I don't see how you have any point at all

 

[rebuilder 454]

Either agree that Jesus is deity like the Bible says, or claim God is a liar.

Either agree that Jesus is the creator, as the Bible says, or claim that God is a liar

 

[rebuilder 454]

If you cannot agree what the Bible says, and that the Bible is the inherent word of God ,and the book that we hold is true and as a measuring stick for all heresy, why are you on a Christian forum?

 

[Hiddenthings]

David, Jesus & Paul all affirm the one truth.

As David wrote, “He (Jesus) asked life of You (God), and You (God) gave it to him, length of days forever and ever” (Psalm 21:4).
Jesus affirmed, “The Father has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).
Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life” (John 6:35) and, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father (for Life) except through me” (John 14:6).

“I live because of the Father” (John 6:57), and again, “As the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself” (John 5:26).

Paul’s declaration in 1 Timothy simply reflects what Jesus himself had already taught: that true, self-existing immortality belongs only to the Father.

Read it carefully and you will see why and how Jesus is the first fruits of them that sleep. You will also see how high God exalted His Son in raising him from the dead and blessing him with Life Eternal.

The first of his brothers!

For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one source. That is why he (Jesus) is not ashamed to call them brothers, saying, “I will tell of your name (God's Name) to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation, I will sing your praise.” Hebrews 2:11-12

I have a prophecy confirming this is true
I have the words of Jesus confirming this is true
I have the words of Paul confirming this is true

What I don't have is you confirming this is true!

 

[Hiddenthings]

The work of Jesus in making people holy is accomplished through His death, which is made possible by his humanity. As Hebrews 10:10 states: "We have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." Because Jesus fully shared in our human nature, we are all of the same family, literally, “all from one” (one source, one ancestry, one nature). He so closely identified with us that He is not ashamed to call us His brothers. To support this, the author of Hebrews cites three Old Testament passages.

 

[Hiddenthings]

1. Psalm 22:22 "I will tell of your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will sing your praise."
2. Isaiah 8:17 "I will put my trust in him."
3. Isaiah 8:18 "Behold, I and the children God has given me."