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MonoBiblical

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That's your credentials???

I'm defending the Bible from unbelievers!
Unbelief is less important than obedience. Belief is a mistranslation of a Greek word, and does nothing without trust. Why don't I trust the English?
 

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Unbelief is less important than obedience.
No kidding?
Belief is a mistranslation of a Greek word, and does nothing without trust. Why don't I trust the English?
So you're saying you're a Hebrew and Greek expert, more so than all those who translated our MANY English Bibles?

Your Bible attacks go far beyond "mistranslation"! Are there any Books in the Bible you believe?
 
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No kidding?

So you're saying you're a Hebrew and Greek expert, more so than all those who translated our MANY English Bibles?

Your Bible attacks go far beyond "mistranslation"! Are there any Books in the Bible you believe? You won't even tell us what your religion is!
I said Bible Unitarian. I am a young earth creationist. I don't know Hebrew as well and I am more dependent on morph tags for it.
 

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What's the diffs between Unitarian and Christian?
It can be big. The godhood of the final messiah is limited when he was woken by YHWH from the dead. Jesus is still an example, but I think of him in deistic ways. And I know the Trinity Doctrine to be a poor shibboleth.

Simply put. I believe that both Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism don't have the entire truth.
 

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How is "Christian" defined on this forum? Because I am surprised by the posts of some people here in "Christians only" section.
We require our Christian members to adhere to the close handed issues outlined in the statement of faith. Arguing against those close handed issues can result in a ban. I try to be understanding towards those who appear to be confused. More often than not it is those asserting their heretical beliefs with certainty and/or mockery who get banned.

 

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We require our Christian members to adhere to the close handed issues outlined in the statement of faith. Arguing against those close handed issues can result in a ban. I try to be understanding towards those who appear to be confused. More often than not it is those asserting their heretical beliefs with certainty and/or mockery who get banned.

I apologize for breaking any rules. It seems was getting too much from the discussion. Have I been overly assertive? Do you also want me to limit my mocking to nothing. I don't mock theology much.

I suppose I can thank you for whatever forgiveness you have given.
 

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I apologize for breaking any rules. It seems was getting too much from the discussion. Have I been overly assertive? Do you also want me to limit my mocking to nothing. I don't mock theology much.

I suppose I can thank you for whatever forgiveness you have given.
What I want is for everyone to be open and honest. Mocking is not beneficial for anyone involved.
 

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Let me see. Let us look at from the chart perspective. The Holy Spirit is the Father. The son is not the Father, and the Father fathers himself per Valentinus's heresy. Makes no sense.
The Holy Spirit is not the Father, The Son is not the Father and the Son is not the Holy Spirit. They are all distinct persons. But one God.
 
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It can be big. The godhood of the final messiah is limited when he was woken by YHWH from the dead. Jesus is still an example, but I think of him in deistic ways.
Godhood?
And I know the Trinity Doctrine to be a poor shibboleth.
As I said before, your opinions do not overrule the Christian Bible that clearly teaches Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the ONE God of the Bible.
Simply put. I believe that both Christianity and Rabbinic Judaism don't have the entire truth.
IOW, all you have is YOUR opinions!
 
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The Holy Spirit is not the Father, The Son is not the Father and the Son is not the Holy Spirit. They are all distinct persons. But one God.
[Mat 1:18, 20 NKJV] 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. ... 20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit.

There must be a paternity suit, because the holy spirit is supposedly not the Father or the Father's spirit.