Jesus - God or not?

[jaybird]

If you deny what the written word said then you deny what Jesus taught. It's pretty simple.

i am not denying anything Jesus taught, i am not agreeing with your opinion of what Jesus taught. sorry but you are not Jesus.

 

[StanJ]

i am not denying anything Jesus taught, i am not agreeing with your opinion of what Jesus taught. sorry but you are not Jesus.

If you deny what the written word said then you deny what Jesus taught. It's pretty simple.

 

[jaybird]

This is nothing more than deflection and exaggeration. Try sticking to the point being made and address the scriptures being given. It's not a matter of pointing out all the wrong that people do, it's a matter of knowing what the Bible says and submitting to it. That is your job and nobody else's. If you ask and you're told then you have no excuse and your ignorance will fail you at Judgment Day.

you brought this into play when you started comparing todays Christianity with yesterdays. not me.

you know i have a point which is why you dodged what i said, yet you accuse me of dodging.

i read the bible and understand it the best way i can. i am not the final authority on scripture and i dont present it as if i am. to me its arrogant.

 

[jaybird]

If you deny what the written word said then you deny what Jesus taught. It's pretty simple.

are you claiming your words are equal to the Lords words?

 

[StanJ]

you brought this into play when you started comparing todays Christianity with yesterdays. not me.
you know i have a point which is why you dodged what i said, yet you accuse me of dodging.
i read the bible and understand it the best way i can. i am not the final authority on scripture and i dont present it as if i am. to me its arrogant.

More avoidance. From what you relate here I can't see that you actually read the Bible. Seems to me you spout man-made doctrine more than anything else, then a our being accountable for it. Try addressing the scriptures you've been given.

 

[StanJ]

are you claiming your words are equal to the Lords words?

When I quote the word, yes indeed, as they are! You seem to avoid dealing with what I quote to you? Why is that?

 

[jaybird]

More avoidance. From what you relate here I can't see that you actually read the Bible. Seems to me you spout man-made doctrine more than anything else, then a our being accountable for it. Try addressing the scriptures you've been given.

avoidance? please give me an example of what i am avoiding? i took your statement of "we know better today" and turned it up on its head. you know its true which is why your getting all huffy and puffy over it. all the childish name calling and accusations "you dont even read the bible" only makes you look foolish.

Try addressing the scriptures you've been given.
which scripture are you referring to? i would be happy to address it

 

[jaybird]

When I quote the word, yes indeed, as they are! You seem to avoid dealing with what I quote to you? Why is that?

my fault stan. please help me find the quotes in scripture. lets start with this one:

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, are one God.
where can i find this quote in the bible?

 

[StanJ]

avoidance? please give me an example of what i am avoiding? i took your statement of "we know better today" and turned it up on its head. you know its true which is why your getting all huffy and puffy over it. all the childish name calling and accusations "you dont even read the bible" only makes you look foolish.

Try addressing the scriptures you've been given.

which scripture are you referring to? i would be happy to address it

Yes, go back and read what I've already written and then answer the questions I asked

 

[StanJ]

my fault stan. please help me find the quotes in scripture. lets start with this one:

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, are one God.

where can i find this quote in the bible?

Go back and look, you'll find them very clearly outlined with a scriptural reference.

 

[jaybird]

Yes, go back and read what I've already written and then answer the questions I asked

theres not any.

 

[jaybird]

Go back and look, you'll find them very clearly outlined with a scriptural reference.

didnt ask about the scripture reference. here it is again 2nd time.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, are one God.
where can i find this quote in the bible?

 

[StanJ]

theres not any.

Then you're not really looking.

 

[StanJ]

didnt ask about the scripture reference. here it is again 2nd time.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, are one God.

where can i find this quote in the bible?

Matthew 28:19

 

[jaybird]

Matthew 28:19

19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

still looking for your quote in there . . .dont see it.

lots of controversy on that passage as it seems the Apostles baptized in the name of Jesus and the early church Fathers quoted this passage with "in My name" with no mention of Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

 

[0bed]

has Isiah 9 6 been fulfilled?

That is not what you said.

 

[0bed]

my fault stan. please help me find the quotes in scripture. lets start with this one:

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, are one God.
where can i find this quote in the bible?

Jesus is : -

God for ever and ever. r 1:8 (Said by the Father to the Son.)
[SIZE=12pt]God Jhn 1:1; Mat 1:23; Isa 40:3[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]The Mighty God Isa 9:6[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]The Everlasting God Isa 40:28[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]The True God 1Jo 5:20[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]My Lord and my God Jhn 20:28[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]God my Saviour Luk 1:47[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Over all, God blessed for ever. Amen Rom 9:5[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]The God of the whole earth Isa 54:5[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]God manifest in the flesh 1Ti 3:16[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Our God and Savior 2Pe 1:1[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]The great God and our Saviour, Jesus Christ Tts 2:13[/SIZE]
[SIZE=12pt]Emanuel, God with us Mat 1:23[/SIZE]
The God of Abraham, The God of Isaac, The God of Jacob Exd 3:2, 6 Mat 22:32
[SIZE=12pt]The Highest Luk 1:76[/SIZE]

 

[jaybird]

That is not what you said.

that was what i meant to ask. thats what i have been implying the whole time, is the prophesy fulfilled yes or no.

I dont remember Jesus having a government on His shoulders.

Isaiah says the government shall be upon his shoulder. Wait till he returns.

right here you are saying this has not yet come to pass, not until His 2nd return.

so why use the passage if it is unfulfilled?

 

[0bed]

that was what i meant to ask. thats what i have been implying the whole time, is the prophesy fulfilled yes or no.

I dont remember Jesus having a government on His shoulders.

Isaiah says the government shall be upon his shoulder. Wait till he returns.

right here you are saying this has not yet come to pass, not until His 2nd return.

so why use the passage if it is unfulfilled?

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 9:6 has been fulfilled in all points except Jesus has not yet defeated Satan who is the god of this world.

 

[StanJ]

19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
still looking for your quote in there . . .dont see it.
lots of controversy on that passage as it seems the Apostles baptized in the name of Jesus and the early church Fathers quoted this passage with "in My name" with no mention of Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Even when presented with the words you deny them so there is obviously no use and showing you anything from scripture because you refuse to accept it. This is a true example of inculcation.