Jesus was not a humanitarian by nature.

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MatthewG

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Was Jesus worried about the welfare of human beings via spiritual suffering? Sure, but he himself suffered, many things including temptation and death.

I don’t personally see in my own life that I have to humanitarian to be a believer in Yeshua.

Even Christians are called to suffer to some degree or another that’s a personal matter and unbeknownst to me.
Some people mistakenly view Jesus as merely a humanitarian figure—but that’s not how He described Himself, nor how Scripture portrays Him.

In fact, Jesus said, “The poor you will always have with you”—a statement recorded in Matthew 26:11, Mark 14:7, and John 12:8. This wasn’t a dismissal of compassion, but a reminder that while caring for the poor is good, it doesn’t make someone the savior of the world. That role belongs to Christ alone.

Jesus also taught about the nature of giving: “When you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing” (Matthew 6:3–4). He emphasized quiet, sincere generosity—not public displays or movements aimed at recognition.

So yes, helping others is valuable. But joining a humanitarian cause or making charity a public identity isn’t what defines a follower of Christ. Jesus Himself never aligned with political agendas or social movements. His mission was spiritual, not political.

And contrary to popular depictions, Jesus wasn’t physically striking. Isaiah 53:2 tells us, “He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.” His power wasn’t in outward appearance—it was in truth, grace, and sacrifice.

There are many things Jesus was not. But who He was—and is—matters far more.
 
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Jesus was not a humanitarian by nature.​

I guess by 'humanitarian' you mean selfish.
 

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I remember that Jesus died and was risen again, and then his own people went out and died for him.

Even after all the healings and miracles.
 

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Love thy neighbor as thyself....

Not much wiggle room in that verse.

Especially when it's number 2 on a short list of eternal commandments. (Pre and post resurrection of Christ)

Meaning it's going to be important in Heaven too.

And there is a HUGE difference between suffering and being the object of abuse. They are not the same.
 

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At times, I struggle with feelings of resentment toward my neighbor.

The truth is, I can only love through Christ.

The commandments—on my own—I could never truly fulfill. It’s only through Yeshua working in me that I’m able to walk in them.

“Remain in me, as I also remain in you.”John 15:4

I believe God values honesty over appearances. He’s not impressed by facades or pretense.

What Yahavah delights in is authenticity—genuine hearts, real struggles, and the transformation He brings to those He adopts as His children through the Holy Spirit.
 

MatthewG

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NOt many people are gonna truly tell you they hate their neighbor sometimes unless they are truthful.

@JohnDB, I hate all that fake bull crap people try to pull over on people.
 

MatthewG

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I also struggle to really care for how a person may feel, especially on the online spectrum of the world.



CAuse sometimes their feelings may not even matter. They let their feelings dictate their emotions....

When a person needs to hear the truth, the truth is reality, you have two choices, face it or run away from it: make excuses for it.

Especially in the "Christian Culture"
 

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That's what this generation wants - no suffering and apathy for others who are suffering - its the world we have created abandon those in need and look down upon their suffering. Money power and security the same temptation that Satan offer Christ is all the people today want and with even a tiny bit of suffering they curse God and loose faith while they themselves would never help anyone .They don't even know what suffering is or why they suffer.This is truly an evil generation and getting worse as we go.

Power wealth and security with no suffering is offered to the world and they grasp it and hang on ignore the suffering of other - Satan's same temptations offered to Christ in the dessert which he rejected and its being embarrassed by many while looking down on the poor and the suffering with no shame at all.

Its the disease of Social Apathy its a mental disease that is prevalent today in many.They just don't care about anyone but themselves.Bow to Satan's temptations and get your reward in this life.Read the parable of the sheep and the goats what are you a sheep or a goat.

Suffering is a part of this life for all and it always will be until the end.
 
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That's what this generation wants - no suffering and apathy for others who are suffering - its the world we have created abandon those in need and look down upon their suffering. Money power and security the same temptation that Satan offer Christ is all the people today want and with even a tiny bit of suffering they curse God and loose faith while they themselves would never help anyone .They don't even know what suffering is or why they suffer.This is truly an evil generation and getting worse as we go.

Power wealth and security with no suffering is offered to the world and they grasp it and hang on ignore the suffering of other - Satan's same temptations offered to Christ in the dessert which he rejected and its being embarrassed by many while looking down on the poor and the suffering with no shame at all.

Its the disease of Social Apathy its a mental disease that is prevalent today in many.They just don't care about anyone but themselves.Bow to Satan's temptations and get your reward in this life.Read the parable of the sheep and the goats what are you a sheep or a goat.

Suffering is a part of this life for all and it always will be until the end.

Core Themes & Ideas​

  • Widespread Apathy: Society today is increasingly indifferent to the suffering of others, prioritizing self-interest and comfort.
  • Temptations of Power: Many pursue wealth, power, and security at the cost of compassion, echoing the temptations offered to Christ—yet unlike Him, they embrace them.
  • Loss of Faith During Suffering: People often abandon faith when faced with even minor personal hardship, despite being unwilling to help others in distress.
  • Moral and Spiritual Decline: The current generation is described as morally corrupt, detached from empathy, and growing worse over time.
  • Social Apathy as a Disease: Emotional numbness and detachment from others’ pain is seen as a mental illness infecting society.
  • Biblical Parallels: Reference to the parable of the sheep and the goats—urging individuals to reflect on whether they are compassionate (sheep) or indifferent (goats).
  • Endurance of Suffering: Suffering is portrayed as an inevitable and enduring part of human existence, not something to be escaped or ignored.





Well, is it what we do or what Christ does with in us by abiding in him?


Cause I don't do anything worth while that is any good... there is only one that is good and that is God, Yahavah.

Your own suffering is a personal one, just as each individual suffers in their own life of faith.
 

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Oh and having wealth is not evil in itself.

It's the evil in the heart that is the problem.

I have an evil heart so Im a problem.

The solution abide in the Messiah Lord Yeshua, and let YAhavah work.
 

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Humanitarian means being concerned with or seeking to promote human welfare.

Humanitarian is a Human who promotes the welfare of another.

Jesus is a Spirit who appeared to humans in the Likeness AS a Human to Promote HOW humans could become in the Likeness AS Jesus.

(Some)humans Promote the WEL-FARE of other humans….
By, through, of; Teaching, Example, Charity, Lending a hand.

The Secular World, (Many) (governments, famed persons) also Promote the WEL-FAIR
Of humans…
By first Confiscating, ( through multiple means ), “the WEALTH of others…”
* Putting a hefty portion of the wealth in their personal Coffer;
* Then doling out scraps to others “they” deem qualified to receive.
* They “Accept” the accolades for being a “generous do good-er.”

The Reveal?
WELFARE is not WEL-Fair.

WELFARE - Scripturally is BE WELL, in Spirit, in Righteousness, in Necessities, God has provided.

WEL-FAIR - Secularly is BE WEALTH increased At the Expense of Another, by ANY means.

Scripturally - WELFARE is about ENRICHING the “POOR … in SPIRIT”, with the accolades (accreditation) going To God.

In THAT ^ Respect… yes, Jesus was a humanitarian; teaching, preaching, to humans HOW to Become themselves AND teach other humans to How To Become “Rich in Spirit” and AND “accredit God”.

Caution:

Matt. 16:
[26] For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?


Pss 69:
[22] Let their table become a snare before them: and that which should have been for their welfare, let it become a trap.



Glory to God,
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Yeah and Jesus people went out and died.

So much for their welfare… it was only spiritual building up that mattered.

You can always be friendly to poor people but that’s not getting you into heaven.

That’s what I’m saying @Taken.

There are people seek to do such things just to noticed by people like it matters to be noticed that way.
 

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Jesus wasn’t a humanitarian.
He wasn’t political either…

There so much confusion in Christianity culture that people are afraid to even be themselves.

So they hide behind masks and facades.
 

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You know an parent who kicks there kid out at 18 is not wrong in this decision but the 18 year old especially if they haven’t worked or gained anything yet is going to “feel” very wronged by the Parent but it’s not inhumane…

It just is what it is sometimes and you got work through tough times and struggles while you in life. You might get lucky someone give that 18 a car. Or a bicycle or something, maybe they find a job and work.


It was up the parent to instill as much knowledge as one could on how this world works or not…




Example: My sister in a tent, living her life by those means when she also decided to marry five different men and now she married loving in a tent doing Doug’s unless she stopped.

She’s not coming here to live with me. She’ll murder me.

My nephew in Jail who is a pedophile now as a sex offender; he is not coming to live with.




You can do good to people and love them from a distance and pray for them but people must take accountability for their own selves and actions,


I told a man no I can’t give you 20$ for your light bill and took off on my bike; I was already in debt 1,200 with my own mom…





So while I can’t love God and others properly only Yeshua can in and through me by perhaps helping on the spiritual matters but they have allow God to work in their own heart.


I can’t do that.
 

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We all narrate our own lives even our memories are a copy of a copy of a copy constantly changing to suit us.The goal is to narrate the right path there is more than just one.We narrate our own story if people can see it that way.Suffering comes from inside us not from the outside and things that happen.Once you realize this you can deal with the suffering and the social apathy. If you don't deal with it from with in it will continue to go on.Our brains lie to us all the time and can't be trusted.
 
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You know an parent who kicks there kid out at 18 is not wrong in this decision but the 18 year old especially if they haven’t worked or gained anything yet is going to “feel” very wronged by the Parent but it’s not inhumane…

It just is what it is sometimes and you got work through tough times and struggles while you in life. You might get lucky someone give that 18 a car. Or a bicycle or something, maybe they find a job and work.


It was up the parent to instill as much knowledge as one could on how this world works or not…




Example: My sister in a tent, living her life by those means when she also decided to marry five different men and now she married loving in a tent doing Doug’s unless she stopped.

She’s not coming here to live with me. She’ll murder me.

My nephew in Jail who is a pedophile now as a sex offender; he is not coming to live with.




You can do good to people and love them from a distance and pray for them but people must take accountability for their own selves and actions,


I told a man no I can’t give you 20$ for your light bill and took off on my bike; I was already in debt 1,200 with my own mom…





So while I can’t love God and others properly only Yeshua can in and through me by perhaps helping on the spiritual matters but they have allow God to work in their own heart.


I can’t do that.

We all narrate our own lives even our memories are a copy of a copy of a copy constantly changing to suit us.The goal is to narrate the right path there is more than just one.We narrate our own story if people can see it that way.Suffering comes from inside us not from the outside and things that happen.Once you realize this you can deal with the suffering and the social apathy. If you don't deal with it from with in it will continue to go on.
Uhm okay?
 

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My nephew can’t live with me he also has a high chance of murdering as well I was always afraid of him and thought he would murder my mother… thankfully she said he won’t be living with her either.
 

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Is it unchristian to do things like this? I don’t think they are personally.

Some say yes! You’re definitely not Christian if you don’t care for your neighbors…

I do care for them just at a distance; to say I don’t care would be a misalignment.

Today some people still scare me; I tend to hate those who are able to scare me.

But when I abide in Christ in him there is nothing but love and longsuffering,


I can be open about my weakness cause in Christ he is the strength to carry a person through.
 

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There are many people that think they are able to love God and love others, without Christ Yeshua, the Spirit of Christ within them.

That’s not true. Though one can show love to other people the true love which comes from heaven only protrudes from Yeshua and his Spirit, even a person may not know everything about him it’s possible…

They will always give credit to the credit to the Creator and they won’t credit themselves. Yahavah can read the hearts and minds of people and whether or not they are honest in their intentions or if it’s a remote doing just to say hey look at me and what I did.


Be careful to the fake facades and see that abiding in Yeshua is something that is needed, faithfully looking to Yahavah and seeking the kingdom of heaven first.
 

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Yeah and Jesus people went out and died.

So much for their welfare… it was only spiritual building up that mattered.

You can always be friendly to poor people but that’s not getting you into heaven.

That’s what I’m saying @Taken.

There are people seek to do such things just to noticed by people like it matters to be noticed that way.
The ever pervading concern of getting into heaven and the many 'how to' arguments inevitably only underpin self interest.