Jesus was not a humanitarian by nature.

[marks]

Was Jesus worried about the welfare of human beings via spiritual suffering? Sure, but he himself suffered, many things including temptation and death.

I don’t personally see in my own life that I have to humanitarian to be a believer in Yeshua.

Even Christians are called to suffer to some degree or another that’s a personal matter and unbeknownst to me.

Giving His live to rescue the lot of us isn't "humanitarian"? I hardly know what to say to that.

God told us to love others. It's up to you whether you do that or not.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

I've faced death on a number of occasions, and braced for it. We have strict Health and Safety laws here so all care is to be taken to prevent death. As I sit at my keyboard now I don't feel the slightest bit afraid of dying.

2Co 5:6-10 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (7) (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) (8) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. (9) Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. (10) For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

I'm a quoter

Then enjoy this quoate as well .
HE who beleives in ME shall never die . Oh yes there is no reason to fear the death of this body
for HE who believes in CHRIST JESUS has a far better lovely place that awaits them .

 

[marks]

Quotes do no good. lol yall scared of death just as much as me.

I think that's a poor assumption to make. It's a matter of your faith. If you have a strong faith, you truly do believe that death is the doorway ushering you into the presence of the One Who loves you, because He made you so you could receive His love, and love Him in return.

Scripture passages embedded in your mind should not be dismissed. To me, the Bible is like my spiritual DNA.

Much love!

 

[MatthewG]

I think that's a poor assumption to make. It's a matter of your faith. If you have a strong faith, you truly do believe that death is the doorway ushering you into the presence of the One Who loves you, because He made you so you could receive His love, and love Him in return.

Scripture passages embedded in your mind should not be dismissed. To me, the Bible is like my spiritual DNA.

Much love!

Says some guy on the internet making his own quote.

 

[Marvelloustime]

Then enjoy this quoate as well .
HE who beleives in ME shall never die . Oh yes there is no reason to fear the death of this body
for HE who believes in CHRIST JESUS has a far better lovely place that awaits them .

@amigo de christo

 

[One 2 question]

Was Jesus worried about the welfare of human beings via spiritual suffering? Sure, but he himself suffered, many things including temptation and death.

I don’t personally see in my own life that I have to humanitarian to be a believer in Yeshua.

Even Christians are called to suffer to some degree or another that’s a personal matter and unbeknownst to me.

I guess to me it is a matter of being led by the indwelling Spirit. The evidence of His presence is love, joy, kindness, compassion, longsuffering and the like.

I would expect that anyone He possesses will by their new nature attend to the needs of the poor, the sick just as Jesus Himself did.

I don't predetermine what the Spirit and I will end up doing. Whether we end up giving or not that's up to Jesus Who I'm yoked to.

 

[MatthewG]

I guess to me it is a matter of being led by the indwelling Spirit. The evidence of His presence is love, joy, kindness, compassion, longsuffering and the like.

I would expect that anyone He possesses will by their new nature attend to the needs of the poor, the sick just as Jesus Himself did.

I don't predetermine what the Spirit and I will end up doing. Whether we end up giving or not that's up to Jesus Who I'm yoked to.

Maybe

 

[marks]

Says some guy on the internet making his own quote.

Take it or leave it. Some guy on the internet thinks you are leaving a lot of wisdom behind in your quest for independance.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

Take it or leave it. Some guy on the internet thinks you are leaving a lot of wisdom behind in your quest for independance.

Much love!

ME THINKS you spot on right on that my friend . many darn sure do want
INDEPENDENCE . but sadly its FROM GOD , FROM HIS WORDS , FROM the TRUTH .
and as you know THAT AINT independence , WELL at least not any that is gonna work TO THE GOOD of those who do so love it .

 

[amigo de christo]

Take it or leave it. Some guy on the internet thinks you are leaving a lot of wisdom behind in your quest for independance.

Much love!

allow a parting reminder to us all .
Rather than being as and doing as many do and trying to have our own independance FROM GOD
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND OUR TOTAL DEPENDANCE ON SAID GOD , ON SAID CHRIST .
cause WE TRULY ARE TOTALLY and IN TOTAL NEED OF HIM at all TIMES . Just a real simple reminder .

 

[jaybird]

Is there something you specifically want? Cause, I have done commented concerning why Jesus is not a humanitarian.

when you ignore everything that says different Jesus can be whatever you want him to be. textbook cult behavior

 

[jaybird]

John 4 46-
Jesus heals the officials son

John 5 1 9
Jesus heals the crippled man

just a few more examples of Jesus doing exactly what OP says Jesus never did

 

[rockytopva]

God emphasizing his uniqueness...

13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.- Exodus 3

I would be careful on how I addressed God. Not knowing if he would mind being called a humanitarian. I do like the 1973 version of Jesus Christ Superstar. I fear, though, that it easy to overstep the boundaries on that one. Having Jesus represented as a drag queen for example.

1 Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God, and be more ready to hear, than to give the sacrifice of fools: for they consider not that they do evil.
2 Be not rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God: for God is in heaven, and thou upon earth: therefore let thy words be few.
3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words. - Ecclesiastes 5

 

[Lambano]

He wasn’t in the modern day sense; other wise why did he his apostles get treated like scum of the earth…

Humanitarian: noun - a person who seeks to promote human welfare

‘…but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”’ - John 10:32

Do good works count as humanitarianism?

 

[jaybird]

a few more scriptures:
John 6:1–14
Jesus feeds 5k people
John 9:1–7
Jesus heals a man sight

i think thats five passages now of Jesus doing exactly what OP says Jesus never did. thats a lot of passages that you have to ignore to make this idea work, and i dont know of any passage where the 12 tell Jesus of someone in need and Jesus says let em suffer cause we got to take care of number one.

reminds me of rasputan the mad monk, says he was a Christian, had this weird cult following, he taught that every night, or on the weekends, the men and women should gather, get drunk, take clothes off and practice the most crazy debauchery you ever heard of. priest told rasputan these were not the way of the bible, showed him scripture, and the way rasputan got around this problem is he simply ignored it and acted like it never existed.

 

[MatthewG]

Humanitarian: noun - a person who seeks to promote human welfare

‘…but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”’ - John 10:32

Do good works count as humanitarianism?

No. It's love which is agape.

 

[Lambano]

No. It's love which is agape.

Correct. Humanitarianism IS agape love, applied to people you might not know personally or have a relationship with, people who are not necessarily your friends or relatives.

What do you think Humanitarianism is?

When did Humanitarianism (love for the human race) get such a bad name? Is it because Humanitarianism is thought to be impersonal? That is, love for the human race in general that sees the masses but overlooks the individuals who comprise those masses?

 

[MatthewG]

Correct. Humanitarianism IS agape love, applied to people you might not know personally or have a relationship with, people who are not necessarily your friends or relatives.

What do you think Humanitarianism is?

When did Humanitarianism (love for the human race) get such a bad name? Is it because Humanitarianism is thought to be impersonal? That is, love for the human race in general that sees the masses but overlooks the individuals who comprise those masses?

I don’t believe you. Agape love is Gods love.

It has nothing to do with humanitarianism…

God is spirit, he produces spiritual things within a person…

It’s not fleshly by nature so I believe you are just wrong in your assertions, personally, nothing against you or anything….

I just don’t follow whatever anyone tells to me or suggests.

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus sought to improve the spiritual welfare of others, and he is the only one that can…

Jesus was not a humanitarian by nature…

Just cause you give some food to a homeless person doesn’t make me think you are a God send… lol… you can always do good to the poor at anytime…

Jesus said that.

 

[Cassandra]

@MatthewG I haven't been over here in awhile, but I never remember you speaking like this. What happened? This sounds like a very discouraged person to me. I'm sure you know darn good and well why the apostles died. The things you are saying--You are being snotty. You start a thread and then bite everyone who answers you . The cannibal thing was a bit much too.
If I were an outsider, just reading threads, I'd swear you came off your meds recently and this is what is causing this. You weren't like this before.