So quote them!
So all you have is YOUR opinions!
John 5:21
21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
Jesus is God!
JOHN 3:1 ISRAEL MUST BE BORN AGAIN
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John 5:21
21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
Jesus is God!
did you happen to notice
8 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
then 3 verses later he is called the' son of God'
29 ''Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
30 ''Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not recorded in this book. 31 But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.''
you are wanting to make Jesus into the Almighty God but time after time Jesus is known to be the son
Thank you for admitting that Jesus is God! Why can't the Father and Son be God???
Gen 1 God said "Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness"!!!
Psalm 50:1, Isaiah 10:21, Jeremiah 32:18, and Isaiah 9:6. Isaiah 9:6 I think there's more ,live with it
You can still see it this way, which I think is fine, because Jesus said this
John 8:29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.
Jesus told them he was not alone, and asked,
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
Whereas Paul said,
2 Cr 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
So when Thomas says,
“My Lord and my God!”
Why can't this portion be understood that way?
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Whereas it says this also
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
perhaps you missed it .it could almost be considered a contradiction unless you see into the narrative .he called Jesus ''his lord '' nothing wrong with that. then turning and saying ''and my God'' he then glorified them both in one breath.
I LOVE quoting God! You should try it!
Gen 1 God said, "Let US make man in OUR image, according to OUR likeness"!
Father and Son!
You still didn't tell us Who this male child born, Isaiah called "Mighty God" and "Everlasting Father" is.
the Bible says he ,Jesus ,is mighty , that not the question . it does not say he is almighty . almighty is a step above mighty .
Gary Mac
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I do to. Im 77 yers old and didnt even learn to read until I was 27, when God saved me from myself: and my wife after four years taught me how to read starting in 1974 from the King James Bible. To this day 56 years later I still have to resort to her for information in reading. Gosh I love that woman, she is so humble.
OH' Scripture is most easy to understand if you have the same mind be in you who was in Christ Jesus, God Himself becomes the teacher of it. Spiritually it is discerned, but only if God is your Spirit of mind, which simply is Love for God is Love. Most see their god, or gods, some has three of them, as a person instead of Love.
If you do not have the same mind in you from God as Jesus received from Him in Matt 3:16, born again with that renewing of it that comes only by God Himself, that is when it becomes complicated for you. And evidently you are a bit confused about it? That is exactly why you cant relate to what I quote of Jesus in who he was in God and who I am in God.
Im as ignorant as Jesus was to the Jews for the very same reason aren't I. LOL
Gary Mac
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No where does the Bible say Jesus was mighty God LOL.
Most of you evidently cannot see the AND between God AND Jesus Christ, whom God did send, and even Jesus said his God sent him.
And those of you who think a man was a god never will experience that eternal life that comes only by God Himself just as Jesus said of himself. And who would you say it was that Jesus said that he ascended to his Father?
Im kinda new here and I havent seen one person yet that follows the ways of Jesus in his God that he called Father.
John 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, AND Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Ronald Nolette
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Are you denying the trinity at the end of your second paragraph. You grammar is atrocious so it makes it so hard to understand
Gary Mac
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Absolutely. God is a Spirit and as Jesus said, in Luke 17:20-21, the kingdom of God does not come with observation, it is with me. Ands Jesus was very clear to Thomas that Spirit that God is doesnt have flesh and bone as you see me.
God is not a person at all as that doctrine describes God as three persons LOL.
And I have posted here several times who Jesus said he was in that God who is a Spirit. Here is what Jesus said about that very thing himself. And it is amazing to me that people read who Jesus said he was in God below, who is a Spirit and was in him and is in us all who will, then accuse him of being God. LOL
If Jesus was God, perhaps you tell us who this was Jesus spoke of? As I stated I have posted this several times and not one person has answered that question. However one did answer God. But again if Jesus was God then who was this he said he could do noting at all without who sent him to show you the way to his God that he prayed to that you may be perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect the One who perfected Jesus proven in Matt 3:16 by the Spirit that He is.
And as far as you not understanding, Spiritually it is discerned, that is the problem here, not my Grammar.
I copied and pasted who Jesus said he was in God but evidently his grammar is confusing for most, they think he was god in misunderstanding his poor grammar as well.
Is very plane to me, because I am identified with him for we have the same Father who is God, Jesus was my brother.
John 12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
John 12:44-45. who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees Him who sent me.
John 7:16. Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
John 5 :17 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 5:19. “Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.”
John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
John 17:2-21, the kingdom of God doesnt come withj observation, it is withn you
John 16:23. And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
John 14:16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Matt 11:25. At that time Jesus declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one.
No Scripture??? Of course not!
Jesus is the Almighty!
Revelation 1:8-18
8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End," says the Lord, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
18 I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore.
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