Ronald Nolette
Well-Known Member
Ain't no gal; ain't no "Tribulation era rapture"; ain't no denying the U.S. in Scripture; ain't no "escape".
Maybe you should "assume" less, and discover more. But then again, SOME are going to have to be part of the Great Falling Away, -- so it's not ENTIRELY a LOSS if you fulfill THAT role!
Hosea 4:6Bobby Jo
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Wow! disagree with you and one is an apostate! I am glad Jesus has more mercy than you!
But you will see that there is a pre trib rapture and all Christians- even ones like you who don't believe in it will be snatched away as well!
but America wiull only be naother of the world nations that will be ruled by the one world govt. to come, then the ten horns and then teh antichrist.
If we are mentioned in Scripture it could be here:
Ezekiel 38
King James Version
38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
When Russia and her allies invade Israel, Tarshsih and her young lions will complain and do nothing. In Ezekiels time there were two Tarshishes, one in Spain and one in England. If it is Englad, then we are one of her young lions in verse 12.
or this:
Ezekiel 39
King James Version
39 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel:
3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand.
4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.
5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God.
6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the Lord.
Verse 6 may be a reference to America as them that dwell carelessly in the isles. that is a big stretch but in current times if the fire is a nuclear exchange, it would be America and Russia more than likely. but we will have to wait to see!
Othewr wise America is just another gentile nation that once had a strong light of the gospel in it but has now strayed very very very very far from tha tlight and has become th emost corrupt nation on earth! America will be just one of the 200+ nations that will fall sway to teh wiles of the antichrist!