life... death...

[MatthewG]

4 minute video


An video of encouragement.

I can’t keep up with many of the people here on the forums as time goes by to quickly and another reason is people have their own ideas and opinions when it comes down to the Bible itself, understand?

Sometimes time invested here can be valueless if it is not used properly, and that is where I need to align myself with the purpose of sending a message for someone to get and look at consider and either throw in the fire or perhaps it helps them further along the trail of their faith and going after Jesus.

The reality of all life is the fact that death is coming, and what one does with their life is up to them and between them and God and we have no true effect on if a person changes their mind or not, only God can have that effect and it is when truth is presented.

God bless you and take care, be encouraged to read and seek and love your life in the new spiritual life that comes through Christ Jesus by faith in him.

 

[Robert Gwin]

4 minute video


An video of encouragement.

I can’t keep up with many of the people here on the forums as time goes by to quickly and another reason is people have their own ideas and opinions when it comes down to the Bible itself, understand?

Sometimes time invested here can be valueless if it is not used properly, and that is where I need to align myself with the purpose of sending a message for someone to get and look at consider and either throw in the fire or perhaps it helps them further along the trail of their faith and going after Jesus.

The reality of all life is the fact that death is coming, and what one does with their life is up to them and between them and God and we have no true effect on if a person changes their mind or not, only God can have that effect and it is when truth is presented.

God bless you and take care, be encouraged to read and seek and love your life in the new spiritual life that comes through Christ Jesus by faith in him.

Did you know Matt, that when Jesus returns there will be an innumerable number of survivors sir? This means that out of all the people who ever lived, they are the only ones who may never taste death. Isn't that great news? Rev 7:14

But the historical truth is, it has been appointed for man to die once Heb 9:27

 

[MatthewG]

Everyone is going to die eventually Robert.

No one will live in flesh forever. (Save Jesus), who died was resurrected and ascended to the Father.

Though some organizations and people as individuals do believe in a real new earth and heaven, and what can I do ?

Judge and condemn them as they are wrong? I can suggest I don’t believe there will be a new heaven and earth in the sense of this earth being made new and this heaven being made new.

I see things as we live this world and we go be with God friend, and that is it, I don’t care to live in this world forever… I rather live with God forever in the spiritual kingdom, some don’t want that so I can’t say anything but okay brother cool.

I believe people who have faith in Jesus die and are given their spiritual body and hope they are able to go into the heavenly Jerusalem. (1 Corinthians 15)

Those who don’t have faith and die and lived a life away from God aren’t punished but they are given a spiritual body and live outside the heavenly Jerusalem that is above, Sir. (Revelation 22).

Thank you for commenting but no I don’t believe what you believe (because I believe what Jesus said and he returned in a generation then and there in that age), but don’t condemn you or anyone else for not believing him.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Everyone is going to die eventually Robert.

No one will live in flesh forever. (Save Jesus), who died was resurrected and ascended to the Father.

Though some organizations and people as individuals do believe in a real new earth and heaven, and what can I do ?

Judge and condemn them as they are wrong? I can suggest I don’t believe there will be a new heaven and earth in the sense of this earth being made new and this heaven being made new.

I see things as we live this world and we go be with God friend, and that is it, I don’t care to live in this world forever… I rather live with God forever in the spiritual kingdom, some don’t want that so I can’t say anything but okay brother cool.

I believe people who have faith in Jesus die and are given their spiritual body and hope they are able to go into the heavenly Jerusalem. (1 Corinthians 15)

Those who don’t have faith and die and lived a life away from God aren’t punished but they are given a spiritual body and live outside the heavenly Jerusalem that is above, Sir. (Revelation 22).

Thank you for commenting but no I don’t believe what you believe (because I believe what Jesus said and he returned in a generation then and there in that age), but don’t condemn you or anyone else for not believing him.

You may have a personal belief that flesh and blood humans will not live on Earth forever but the scriptures disagree with you. Scripture shows us at Genesis 1:28; Genesis 1:30, 31 that God is a God of purpose and that after he created the first human pair sinless, and everything else he had made, God said it was very good, God wanted it to stay that way. Scripture shows that when it comes to God's purposes they are certain to be successful, they will not be stopped. (Isaiah 46:10; 55:11) Jesus said the mild tempered ones would inherit the Earth at Matthew 5:5. There are scriptures that show God created the Earth to remain forever. (Psalms 37:11; 78:69; 104:5; 115:16; 119:90; Ecclesiastes 1:4; Isaiah 45:18; Revelation 21:3, 4) When God gave man the law regarding the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, he implied that man could live forever on earth.(Genesis 2:17) So the scriptures show the Earth will always exist and be inhabited.

 

[MatthewG]

Good let the scripture disagree with me, @BARNEY BRIGHT we don’t have just scripture to live by we have the spirit of Christ, and the Holy Spirit to live by to. We can also ask God for wisdom.

James 1:1-7

I don’t look forward to living on earth again personally… from what I heard Jesus say there is no marriage in heaven. That’s the place I wanna reside in my Friend.

“‘Teacher, Moses said, If any one may die not having children, his brother shall marry his wife, and shall raise up seed to his brother. ‘And there were with us seven brothers, and the first having married did die, and not having seed, he left his wife to his brother; in like manner also the second, and the third, unto the seventh, and last of all died also the woman; therefore in the rising again, of which of the seven shall she be wife — for all had her?’ And Jesus answering said to them, ‘Ye go astray, not knowing the Writings, nor the power of God; for in the rising again they do not marry, nor are they given in marriage, but are as messengers of God in heaven. ‘And concerning the rising again of the dead, did ye not read that which was spoken to you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not a God of dead men, but of living.’”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22‬:‭24‬-‭32‬ ‭YLT98‬‬

I don’t disagree that this world will always have people born in it. The world will never stop existing.

But our lives end here and we move on to reside in the heavenly realm.

Where eternity is found either with God or without God.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Good let the scripture disagree with me, @BARNEY BRIGHT we don’t have just scripture to live by we have the spirit of Christ, and the Holy Spirit to live by to. We can also ask God for wisdom.

James 1:1-7

I don’t look forward to living on earth again personally… from what I heard Jesus say there is no marriage in heaven. That’s the place I wanna reside in my Friend.

“‘Teacher, Moses said, If any one may die not having children, his brother shall marry his wife, and shall raise up seed to his brother. ‘And there were with us seven brothers, and the first having married did die, and not having seed, he left his wife to his brother; in like manner also the second, and the third, unto the seventh, and last of all died also the woman; therefore in the rising again, of which of the seven shall she be wife — for all had her?’ And Jesus answering said to them, ‘Ye go astray, not knowing the Writings, nor the power of God; for in the rising again they do not marry, nor are they given in marriage, but are as messengers of God in heaven. ‘And concerning the rising again of the dead, did ye not read that which was spoken to you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not a God of dead men, but of living.’”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22‬:‭24‬-‭32‬ ‭YLT98‬‬

I don’t disagree that this world will always have people born in it. The world will never stop existing.

But our lives end here and we move on to reside in the heavenly realm.

Where eternity is found either with God or without God.

I choose to not go beyond what's written. That's what the scriptures say at 1Corinthians 4:6. It's a divine principle that we are not to go beyond what's written.

 

[Hippie]

As it says at the beginning of Gods Word. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And he created man in his image. God is spirit and God is perfect. That was mans image at the beginning. The one thing he also gave man was freedom of choice. Unfortunately man made the wrong choice. That wrong choice got so bad he flooded the earth. Sacrificing an innocent animal could not take away mans sin. It was only able to cover it. Gods only Son had to come to earth and be born in flesh and blood. He walked this earth and committed no sin. It's only through him that we are able to come to the Father. Even though he made it possible to come to the Father. He made it possible for us to go to heaven and live eternally in the presence of God. I don't think anybody wants to live on this earth forever. God has our days counted. Only He knows the day we are going to die. Jesus came and died for the world. He still gave man freedom of choice. From dust we came and to dust we will return but the spirit lives on forever. God is not going to make man to make the correct choice. When it's time God will destroy the earth. How we live our lives till that time we will be judged on the day of judgement. God is not goig to force us to make the right choice.

 

[MatthewG]

I choose to not go beyond what's written. That's what the scriptures say at 1Corinthians 4:6. It's a divine principle that we are not to go beyond what's written.

If you don’t have the spirit to be able to talk with God and ask him things, I don’t know Barney. But hey you’re doing what you feel is right to do. I’m not here to judge anyone, it’s not my job, but you can believe whatever you choose, but I believe there is the spirit to go by as well not just the scripture though (use the scripture in its wholeness).

 

[MatthewG]

As it says at the beginning of Gods Word. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And he created man in his image. God is spirit and God is perfect. That was mans image at the beginning. The one thing he also gave man was freedom of choice. Unfortunately man made the wrong choice. That wrong choice got so bad he flooded the earth. Sacrificing an innocent animal could not take away mans sin. It was only able to cover it. Gods only Son had to come to earth and be born in flesh and blood. He walked this earth and committed no sin. It's only through him that we are able to come to the Father. Even though he made it possible to come to the Father. He made it possible for us to go to heaven and live eternally in the presence of God. I don't think anybody wants to live on this earth forever. God has our days counted. Only He knows the day we are going to die. Jesus came and died for the world. He still gave man freedom of choice. From dust we came and to dust we will return but the spirit lives on forever. God is not going to make man to make the correct choice. When it's time God will destroy the earth. How we live our lives till that time we will be judged on the day of judgement. God is not goig to force us to make the right choice.

God has set eternity on man’s hearts. Life goes on after this life. Thank you for sharing hippie.

 

[Hippie]

Your welcome. From everything you read in Gods Word it points out that you choose which way you want to go. God doesn't force people to the right thing. He does let things happen in their lives so they can see how badly they need him. You cannot add or take anything from Gods Word. And you can't change God. Just keep your heart open of what you really want to do.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

If you don’t have the spirit to be able to talk with God and ask him things, I don’t know Barney. But hey you’re doing what you feel is right to do. I’m not here to judge anyone, it’s not my job, but you can believe whatever you choose, but I believe there is the spirit to go by as well not just the scripture though (use the scripture in its wholeness).

I believe YHWH God word, the Bible, and this book was inspired by God. The Bible is a product of the True God YHWH's Holy Spirit. YHWH God inspired men to write down his thoughts on matters by his Holy Spirit. Since this book that God inspired to be written by his Holy Spirit says not to go beyond what is written, I do my best to not go beyond what's written.

 

[MatthewG]

Cool @BARNEY BRIGHT That is great. It is amazing that none of that makes us right with God, but what does make us right with him, in what the Bible does say is to believe on the one whom God had sent, the Lord Jesus Christ. Who died, was buried, and raised again, and having new life by and through the spirit which is given. (Romans 5:1-10)(Romans 6,7,8)

One day we are going to die, and then are going to resurrected which I believe will be spiritual in nature, though you may not believe that, or whatever it is you believe, all I see from the Bible is that people are resurrected spiritually according to 1 Corinthians 15, and there are two areas for people to go. Either outside the kingdom, or inside of the Kingdom, Revelation 22.

People should be encouraged to study it out for themselves, being spirit lead, praying and asking God in Jesus name.


At the end of the day, even if you don't believe it, that is what the Bible says so... I don't get why you always say that souls don't go on or whatever it is you believe, I don't hate you or dislike you simply based off your theology, but I do stand against the thought process.

Anyway, love to you and your family and all the best by the Holy Spirit, and the spirit of Christ that lives with-in you.

 

[ElieG12]

I believe YHWH God word, the Bible, and this book was inspired by God. The Bible is a product of the True God YHWH's Holy Spirit. YHWH God inspired men to write down his thoughts on matters by his Holy Spirit. Since this book that God inspired to be written by his Holy Spirit says not to go beyond what is written, I do my best to not go beyond what's written.

I totally agree.

Will the spirit of God say to a human being, the opposite of what it inspired in the biblical writers (2 Pet. 1:19-21)?

Truth is not a matter of how one thinks individually. Truth is a reality that exists outside of our ideas, and the spirit of God has caused that truth to be recorded for our benefit (John 17:17)

... that we may not be confused with our own human ideas, or those of others (2 Tim. 3:14-17).

 

[ElieG12]

Human beings were not created to live in heaven (Gen. 1:28). The purpose of God is the reality; it will be as it is.

There is a small group that will go there, to be with Jesus ... and that is a small group which is in a very special pact Jesus have made with them. They are brothers of Jesus (John 20:17)... the contrary of considering Jesus something else.

 

[MatthewG]

That is opposed to what Scripture says, about the Kingdom of God, and what Revelation 21-22, states about two groups of people being in the Heavenly Realm, under the new administration of Christ Jesus doing away with the old which was by Law with blessing and curses. the Bible also states about the spiritual resurrection, and Jesus also states there is a resurrected of those condemned, and those to life, which is a differences between the outside of the Kingdom, and inside of the Kingdom. Everyone has to die leaving this world behind, and from what I understand Jesus Kingdom is not of this world, and if that is the case. The Kingdom is going to be spiritual, and different than the psychical realm.

It is up to you what you believe, but the Bible has the answers, and may the Spirit of God lead people to truth.


John 16:13 Jesus spoke saying - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

 

[ElieG12]

Jesus said in Matt.5:

3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

but he said also:

5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Will you accept only one part, and not the other one?

 

[MatthewG]

What does those things mean to you, ElieG12, is the question. What does the spirit tell you about the words that Jesus Christ spoke to his disciples on the mount of olives?

From my own taking of the meek shall inherit the earth - is similar to a person become from a fierce, angry person in the flesh, to becoming meek here on earth, by and through the spirit.

Just as those who are poor in spirit - meaning they are weaker in faith, not confident all the time in Christ which is a good thing to grow and mature in Christ by learning and growing in ones faith, in which people grow more. There is the Kingdom of Heaven, which is given even though they are weak and mature in faith in which those who are poor in spirit should know theirs is the kingdom of heaven, because their heart is thinking towards heavenly things though weakly.

There is a lot said by Jesus in Matthew 5 to learn from, @ElieG12, the question is how do you take it by and the spirit.

 

[ElieG12]

What you think, your ideas, are subjective. What the Bible says is objective. Your thoughts and what Scripture says are not remotely comparable. Your thought, like mine personally and that of all imperfect humans, is irrelevant.

What is important is what the Bible actually teaches: that is the truth that comes from God, and cannot be overturned for any reason ... much less subjective ideas.

 

[MatthewG]

That is why I say study, and don't believe anyone except ask God for wisdom.

Greetings from James​

1 This letter is from James, a slave of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I am writing to the “twelve tribes”—Jewish believers scattered abroad.

Greetings!

Faith and Endurance​

2 Dear brothers and sisters,[a] when troubles of any kind come your way, consider it an opportunity for great joy. 3 For you know that when your faith is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow. 4 So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing.

5 If you need wisdom, ask our generous God, and he will give it to you. He will not rebuke you for asking. 6 But when you ask him, be sure that your faith is in God alone. Do not waver, for a person with divided loyalty is as unsettled as a wave of the sea that is blown and tossed by the wind. 7 Such people should not expect to receive anything from the Lord. 8 Their loyalty is divided between God and the world, and they are unstable in everything they do.

May God bless you in learning the Bible friend.

 

[ElieG12]

All self-important religious people believe that they have the spirit of God and that it tells them things. Many of these things are pure human ideas, very contradictory to each other. How do you prove that you are not one of that bunch?

Why should what you say be more important than what the Bible actually teaches? Because you say you have the spirit of God telling you things? :)