Clearly none of you even know what I am talking about, or have any understand of what I am trying to communicate. I understand you, and what you all say, to the extent there is something being said by you. It is too bad that you don't even understand, much less agree with, what I am saying. Thus, my answer will just deal with about the only thing I could make any sense out of, and that was the tea bag story as it seems to be your best shot. Here is how I see the tea bag story: The point of your tea bag story was that if a person has a tea bag, and the hot water, and the cup, and the person wanting tea, that still and all, you still do not have tea in any way, until the tea bag is actually dropped into the boiling water and allowed to steep for an appreciable time. Then, maybe, you have tea. WELL, I STRONGLY DISAGREE! The fact is, you have tea long before this moment you outline. I, and God, say, you have tea when the conditions and circumstances allow for tea to be made, that you have tea even back when the tea bag was made, and when the tea was grown, and you have tea when someone wants some tea, and you have tea when the water is boiling, and you have tea when the bag is dropped in, and you have tea when it is steeped, and you have tea again when it is cooling, and when lemon or milk is added to taste, and when sugar is added to taste, and when it is raised to your lips you have tea, and when you drink the first sip, and when you drink half of the cup, and when you drink the remainder of the cup, and yes, when there is just a drop remaining in the bottom of the cup you have tea, and you have tea when you pour some more hot water over the used bag again for a second cup, and when you go get another bag the next day, you also have tea, and when you make another cup, and so on, and so on. So you have tea all the way along the line from the beginning of tea to when tea is no more, even all the way back to the time that the first tea was grown thousands of years ago, and on into the future as far a the drinking of tea continues. All that time you have tea. And if someone who hates you knocks the tea cup from your hand before you can drop the bag in and flushes the bag down the toilet that your tea was destroyed even though technically the bag never got dropped into the water. And that your tea that never got to be steeped was destroyed just as effectively as if the tea cup full of steeped tea was knocked out of your hand. It makes no difference when the tea was interrupted whether it was before the bag was dropped or after the bag was steeped, YOUR TEA WAS JUST AS DESTROYED AT ONE POINT AS THE OTHER. So you see, in summary, it is clear that I see tea quite differently than you folks who cannot see any tea any farther back or forward than the steeped tea before you in the cup. By contrast, I, and God, see the larger picture of tea, while you only see the very small picture of tea, the very narrow picture of tea, the very reduced vision of tea that is far smaller than the tea that God sees all the time, and that I, at least, once in a while have some glimpse of.We, you and I, have different eyes, and a completely different understanding of the existence of tea, and when tea actually begins, never mind the life of a child, and when it begins, and do you know why? I'll tell you why we see both tea and children so radically differently: It is because we personally are motivated by completely different visions of God's will. I see God as wanting the children whose lives I am trying to convince you to help me protect, while you see yourselves accused by me of taking those lives without repentance, and are desperate to protect your lack of repentance. Go ahead, be my guest, and convince yourselves that taking the lives that is God's reward is not wrong, and against His will, and then for reassurance, convince each other as well, but you will never convince me or, I might add, persuade God. After all He is the boss, and the boss is always right. Right? I simply want very much to be on God's side, and am not looking all the time for loopholes to evade his laws and commandments. I feel your arguments are all about you trying to prove your own innocence of wrong doing. And there we differ also. I freely admit I have been guilty of taking innocent life with birth control, and admit I am a sinner and a wrong doer, and ask for forgiveness and mercy. I admit I have taken innocent life by using the murderous means of birth control, while you deny, and deny, and deny. And that is all our difference is about.