Limited atonement is a false gospel

[amigo de christo]

Hell is done and over with according to the Bible, and Jesus paid for all sins of all people.

It’s either yes or no.

Those whom were poured out of hell had enough time to think and repent if they so done so…

All hell was is a separation from being with Yahavah, though even Yahavah is said to be omnipresent, so who knows if he was calling even to those whom died previously, and where kept in that separation.

Hell itself had two compartments and it was sin that kept people from Yahavah, though even so, it was faith that brought people into Abraham’s bosom or Paradise as they say.

I believe Jesus went to hell too. He went and preached a message too those that were in the lower parts of it.

You forget a MASSIVE KEY my friend .
YES JESUS sure did sacrfice himself for the sins of the world .
That ALL who DO BELIEVE IN HIM would not perish .
Not so that everyone could hug their own gods and just flock together as one
and DENY JESUS HIMSELF.
THERE is one thing many seem not to realize .
GOD IS LOVE . BUT HIS LOVE WILL NEVER DISHONOR HIM , THE SON , THE TRUTH .
CHARITY rejoices in the TRUTH
not in a well sounded lie . no matter how loving or caring that lie might have sounded
IT CAME not OF GOD . Many will burn and wail in the lake of fire .
ALL who denied HIM will wail
and all who even claimed to BELEIVE ON HIM and yet used that lovely name of HIS
to try and promote some other kind of gospel that even dares to imply
other religions serve the same GOD as do the believers . THEY WILL WAIL loudest of all
Because not only DID the pump the lie of anti christ to these lost religoins and to this world
THEY DID IT USING THE VERY NAME OF JESUS . Greater damnation awaits THOSE .
SO may i highly suggest to us all
TIME TO PREACH JESUS with the DIRE REMINDER to BELEIVE ON HIM , OR PERISH . its that simple and its that serious .

 

[One 2 question]

it was suppose you provide scripture to back that up ? your spreading strange fire

Why is God required to provide scriptures to reveal His truths? That is, to tell certain chosen humans every detail of His plans and for those particular humans to have them scribed or written down.

If you can answer this question, I'll be more than willing to answer yours.

 

[amigo de christo]

Why is God required to provide scriptures to reveal His truths? That is, to tell certain chosen humans every detail of His plans and for those particular humans to have them scribed or written down.

If you can answer this question, I'll be more than willing to answer yours.

And my simple question is
why would the sheep of HIS pasture
ever have had a problem with testing all things said and heard BY THE SCRIPTURES .
only those who have something to hide would ever do that .
Because what they dont want is
THE LIGHT OF THE SCRIPS to expose the darkness of what they teach .
So why would sheep not love TRUTH , when Charity ITSELF REJOICES IN THE TRUTH
not in inquity and we all know lies are inquity .
SO ponder on that for a while . Pray and open your bible as well and let us get real
busy both enjoying , loving and learning the truth .
OH the answer as to why would a sheep not LOVE TRUTH . oh tis real simple
THEY ARE NOT SHEEP at all . Sheep have the agape love of GOD upon our hearts .
May you pray deeply and ponder about this my friend .

 

[Ezra]

Why is God required to provide scriptures to reveal His truths? That is, to tell certain chosen humans every detail of His plans and for those particular humans to have them scribed or written down.

If you can answer this question, I'll be more than willing to answer yours.

this is what you posted { It certainly was God's plan for A & E to eat of the tree of the knowledge of G & E once they carried out God's mandate to fill the earth and have dominion over the animals.} i asked for scripture to back this up.. because i dont find that answer while i do feel it certainly was a test ..but it was also a direct instruction saying leave it alone... God gives us free will everything was Good till the serpent came in with enticing words twisting the instructions around.. hath God said or did he really mean ? the Bible saya he was more subtitle than any beast . here is the beginning of the conversation 1Now the serpent was more subtil { crafty } than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
paul wrote not be ignorant of his devices > 11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
in this context he is speaking of not forgiving .

btw i didnt ask this question of God i asked you --Why is God required to provide scriptures to reveal His truths?

paul also wrote in

Ephesians 4:27​

“Neither give place to the devil.”


certainly at that point god had to take full control ,,, but what your saying does not compute i am not into playing games i asked you for the reason of your belief . i took the time explained my position.. if you dont feel the need to answer so be it.. not into ill give my answer when i get your answer

 

[One 2 question]

And my simple question is
why would the sheep of HIS pasture
ever have had a problem with testing all things said and heard BY THE SCRIPTURES .
only those who have something to hide would ever do that .
Because what they dont want is
THE LIGHT OF THE SCRIPS to expose the darkness of what they teach .
So why would sheep not love TRUTH , when Charity ITSELF REJOICES IN THE TRUTH
not in inquity and we all know lies are inquity .
SO ponder on that for a while . Pray and open your bible as well and let us get real
busy both enjoying , loving and learning the truth .
OH the answer as to why would a sheep not LOVE TRUTH . oh tis real simple
THEY ARE NOT SHEEP at all . Sheep have the agape love of GOD upon our hearts .
May you pray deeply and ponder about this my friend .

So those sheep who didn't have knowledge of scriptures, including Gentiles believers, who spoke TRUTH in tongues, who prophesied the TRUTH, who dreamed TRUTH, had visions of TRUTH were not really Jesus sheep.

And if they did receive TRUTH, from where did that TRUTH originate? Certainly not the scriptures.

 

[One 2 question]

this is what you posted { It certainly was God's plan for A & E to eat of the tree of the knowledge of G & E once they carried out God's mandate to fill the earth and have dominion over the animals.} i asked for scripture to back this up.. because i dont find that answer while i do feel it certainly was a test ..but it was also a direct instruction saying leave it alone... God gives us free will everything was Good till the serpent came in with enticing words twisting the instructions around.. hath God said or did he really mean ? the Bible saya he was more subtitle than any beast . here is the beginning of the conversation 1Now the serpent was more subtil { crafty } than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
paul wrote not be ignorant of his devices > 11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
in this context he is speaking of not forgiving .

paul also wrote in

Ephesians 4:27​

“Neither give place to the devil.”


certainly at that point god had to take full control ,,, but what your saying does not compute i am not into playing games i asked you for the reason of your belief . i took the time explained my position.. if you dont feel the need to answer so be it.. not into ill give my answer when i get your answer

This is why I responded to the Spirit of our Creator when He revealed to me that I had made the bible an idol, a substitute for the Spirit of GOD. I had the belief that there was my Father in heaven, Jesus my Saviour at His right and the Holy Bible which He sent to reveal all truth.

I repented of this belief and practice of consulting the bible and turned to His Spirit. He has been revealing TRUTH through various means ever since.

This is very serious, not a game. As my enemy tries to use the scriptures with me, like he did quoting it to Jesus, I hear what Jesus my Shepherd is saying to me, His sheep. No confusion. No division. Jesus speaks clearly to me when He wants to. What He says is up to Him. It's quite simple really. The challenge I find, as do others, is that the TRUTH may take longer to get through to me than trying to find a principle from the bible that may apply to my situation.

 

[David Lamb]

Hell is done and over with according to the Bible, and Jesus paid for all sins of all people.

It’s either yes or no.

Those whom were poured out of hell had enough time to think and repent if they so done so…

All hell was is a separation from being with Yahavah, though even Yahavah is said to be omnipresent, so who knows if he was calling even to those whom died previously, and where kept in that separation.

Hell itself had two compartments and it was sin that kept people from Yahavah, though even so, it was faith that brought people into Abraham’s bosom or Paradise as they say.

I believe Jesus went to hell too. He went and preached a message too those that were in the lower parts of it.

Where does the bible say that hell if over and done with, or "done and over" as you put it?

Whom do you mean by "Those whom were poured out of hell?" Where does the bible mention people being poured out of hell?

Where does the bible say that hell has two compartments?

 

[Ritajanice]

So why would sheep not love TRUTH

Truth needs to be known in the heart/ spirit...before one can even start to understand the scriptures.

Even then,it’s in God’s timing and through the Holy Spirit teaching that we come to understand the scriptures, which are written under the influence of the Spirit.

Posting reams and reams of scripture, is pointless and void, if one doesn’t know Jesus from within their hearts/ spirit?

That is why we must be Born Of The Spirit first....Only then can we be brought to understand the scriptures by the Living Holy Spirit, who permanently indwells our spirit......Spirit gave birth to our spirit, first and foremost...in Jesus Name!...Amen?

The Living Spirit is our guide and he brings scripture to our understanding......let’s face it.....WE ALL BELIEVE WE HAVE THE TRUTH.....that is why there is so much arguing on here, because some “ force “ their truth onto others...we’re all guilty of that, it’s rife on this forum......the same repetitive arguing.....we can’t force what we believe onto another......I stand 100% firm in what God has brought me to believe.....just like others do......I will NEVER budge from my belief...because it upsets some others and what they believe.

 

[One 2 question]

the Bible saya he was more subtitle than any beast .

Our Creator made the serpent more cunning.