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Mary is the mother of God!

Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

Lk 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

Lk 1: 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

so the Lord is the Lord God almighty!

Proving the divinity of Jesus Christ!


Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the glory of God and Christ, co Mary and the saints are what God made them, it is His handiwork (Lk 1:49 Lk 1:28) and the graces they have come from the merits of Christ’s passion and death

Likewise an Attack on Mary and the saints, or the authority of the apostles or the church or rejection of such doctrines is and attack on God and on Christ!
Acts 9:4 Eph 5:32
 

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NewBiblical Mary, mother of God, ever Virgin, sinless, mother of our salvation!

Mother of God Lk 1:43

Immaculate conception (sinless) gen 3:15 enmity or total war none of satans works are found in Mary!
Also Lk 1:28 full of grace lk 1:49 great things plural (immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus) Rev12:1 woman clothed with the sun. Immaculate purity

Lk 1:30 found favor with God (the salvation lost by Adam) mother of our salvation Lk 2:30

Perpetual Virgin Isa 7:14 matt 1:21
Lk 1:31-34

Spiritual Mother Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17

Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the glory of God and Christ, co Mary and the saints are what God made them, it is His handiwork (Lk 1:49 Lk 1:28) and the graces they have come from the merits of Christ’s passion and death

Likewise an Attack on Mary and the saints, or the authority of the apostles or the church or rejection of such doctrines is and attack on God and on Christ!
Acts 9:4 Eph 5:32


A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Differences in Lk 1

Lk 1:11 And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.

12 And when Zacharias saw him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.

13 But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.

14 And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.

15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.

16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

18 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.

19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.


Lk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Mary is the Queen of the Angels!

The angel is greeting his sovereign mistress and no introduction is needed with Mary, like verse 19 cos Mary knows Gabriel, Mary from the first moment of her creation by God is immaculate! (And sees the beatific vision of God always before her eyes, even in her mothers womb, op) so she knows Gabriel who stands on the presence of God!

Matt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.


Mary made worthy in the immaculate conception to receive grace the HS and the savior and our salvation

Notice how Christ died for us!

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

We were not worthy to die for our own salvation!

It’s similar with grace, we are not worthy to receive grace, so God made Mary by the immaculate conception worthy to receive all grace for us, and worthy to miraculously conceive of the Holy Spirit and to give birth to our savior and worthy to receive our salvation!

Lk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Lk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

Lk 2:30 I have seen my salvation.

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

This applies to Mary not by nature but by the power and will of God!


Mediatrix does not make Mary the mediator or violate 1 Tim 2:5
Anyone who is in the communion of saints is in union and may pray and make intercession for one another! Rev 5:8
All graces come by Jesus Christ Jn 1:16-17 and Jesus came thru Mary,
matt 1:23 so all graces come thru Mary!
Mary is full of grace the throne of divine grace! Heb 4:16
All generations shall call me blessed!
Lk 1:48

Blessed be the great Mother of God, Mary most Holy.
Blessed be her Holy and Immaculate Conception.
Blessed be her Glorious Assumption.
Blessed be the name of Mary, ever Virgin and Mother.

Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints. Amen.

Praise of Mary & the saints ends in God!
All merits, graces, and virtues of Mary come from God & Christ!

1 Corinthians 4:7
For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

2 Thessalonians 1:10
When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe…

No one believed more than Mary! Lk 1:45

Co-redemptrix
Eve a Virgin by the communication of a fallen angel cooperated in the fall of man, the first Adam, gen 3 and it is fitting that Mary a Virgin by the communication of a good angel should cooperate in the redemption of man, the new Adam! Lk 1:28-38

Advocate
Mary help of Christians, pray for us!
Mary is the advocate of Christians because she is our spiritual mother. Jn 19:26-27 rev 12:17
Her intercession is great charity, for even before she is asked she sees a need and fills it. John 2:3 they have no wine, and Christ honors his mother, and never refuses her prayers, and because of her powerful intercession the newlyweds were spared Shame, and His disciples believed. Jn 2:10-11
 

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Old Testament type or example provided by God for our instruction!

Queen Esther

Queen Esther fair: est 2:7
Mary all fair: gen 3:15 Song of Solomon 4:12 Lk 1:28 rev 12:1

And the king loved Esther above all the women, and she obtained grace and favour in his sight more than all the virgins; est 2:17
Song of S. 4:2 love of God for Mary!
And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail Mary, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
Lk 1:28 also Lk 1:30 1:42 1:45 1:48
Mary obtained grace and favor: Lk 1:28
Hebrews 4:16
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Esther merits the graces of the king for the people. Est
Mary merits the graces we need but don’t deserve. Lk 1:30
Mother is the mother of our savior and our salvation! Lk 2:30 matt 1:21

They prayed to Esther to intercede for them before the king. As Mary intercedes for Christians before God.

Queen Esther found favor with the king: est 2:17
Mary found favor with God: Lk 1:30

Queen Esther saves her people interceding with the king: est 8:17
Mary provides the savior of the world!
Lk 2:10-11

Queen Esther receives half the kingdom!
Mary receives half the kingdom, Christ retains the kingdom of justice as just judge and Mary is the queen of grace & mercy! Hence the throne of grace is Mary’s throne! Heb 4:16
Depicted in genesis as the greater light that rules the day (those living in God’s will) and the lesser light that governs the night (those living in sin) Mary the mother of mercy and refuge of sinners!
Notice the sun is the source of all good and moon only reflects this goodness!
She directs all to Her divine son! Jn 2:5


Mary is created by God thru the immaculate conception worthy to receive grace, and the miraculous conception of the Holy Spirit, and the savior and our salvation!

Notice how Christ died for us!

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

We were not worthy to die for our own salvation!

The same applies to grace, we are not worthy to receive grace, so God made Mary by the immaculate conception worthy to receive all grace for us, and worthy to miraculously conceive of the Holy Spirit and to give birth to our savior and worthy to receive our salvation!

Lk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

Lk 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

Lk 2:30 I have seen my salvation.

Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

God will not give grace to one who is not worthy or who cannot receive it, God will not give graces only to be lost or wasted but must be Efficacious!

All graces are merited by Christ (Jn 1:16-17 1 Jn 1:7) and given to men in the immaculate conception, (Lk 1:28 Lk 1:49 Heb 4:16 until we are able thru baptism (Jn 3:5) to receive them!

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Mary had this faith for us, (Lk 1:45 )and became the mother of our salvation!
(Lk 2:30)

Romans 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Just as redemption is held in Christ so grace is held on Mary! Lk 1:28 full of grace Heb 4:16 the throne of grace Lk 1:30 found favor of our salvation

This applies to Mary not by nature but by the power and will of God!

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

Queen of heaven
In the line of david’s kingdom the mother of the king is always queen!
Jesus is king Lk 1:32-33
And Jesus is the king of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints, so Mary is queen of heaven & earth & all the angels & saints!

A Royal greeting!

Lk 1:28 is the only place in the Bible where such a greeting takes place!
Mary is of the tribe of Judah and the royal house of David the king!

God himself is greeting Mary thru the instrument of the angel Gabriel!

This is a Royal greeting of the queen of heaven and earth! Queen of the angels and saints! Mary is of the house of king David!

In the line of king David the mother of the king is the queen, as Jesus Christ is the king of heaven and earth and the angels and saints so Mary is the queen of the same! Lk 1:32-33

The mother of any king is automatically queen and rules half the kingdom!
The queen mother!

Lk 1:28 And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women.
29 And when she had heard, she was troubled in his word, and thought what manner salutation this was.
30 And the angel said to her, Dread thou not, Mary, for thou hast found grace with God.

Mary is queen in rev 12:1 and heb 4:16
Mother of divine grace who is the throne of divine grace!
 

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In regards to how you use Scripture, by daisy chaining verses together, or by dumping text into a post, I could show you how to better study & interpret the Bible. Help you read it with meaning and with the purpose of gaining true wisdom. Maybe you have been told; this verse = that meaning, without actually looking at the context for yourself. More than willing to help, just send a PM or setup a private chat.
 

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In regards to how you use Scripture, by daisy chaining verses together, or by dumping text into a post, I could show you how to better study & interpret the Bible. Help you read it with meaning and with the purpose of gaining true wisdom. Maybe you have been told; this verse = that meaning, without actually looking at the context for yourself. More than willing to help, just send a PM or setup a private chat.
Precious friend, may be Very Difficult to do when a religious beings' mind is Totally
made up that it IS THEIR religion or the highway... Just sayin'...
 

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Did Mary & Jesus brothers interrupt the public ministry of the Lord?

Mark 3:31
 

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Precious friend, may be Very Difficult to do when a religious beings' mind is Totally
made up that it IS THEIR religion or the highway... Just sayin'...

did Christ found a church?
Is there a new covenant?

what’s wrong with gathering verses together that speak of the same subject???
All scripture is inspired remember
 

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Luke 1:43
OP ^

Luke 1:
[43] And whence is this to me, (Elisabeth) that the mother (expectation of motherhood of Mary) of my (Elisabeth) Lord (?) should come to me ?(Elisabeth)

Nothing in Luke 1:43, identifies WHO Elisabeth herself identified as "her Lord".

How did the OP, determine, WHO Elizabeth's "Lord" is?

 

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Luke 1:43
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Luke 1:
[43] And whence is this to me, (Elisabeth) that the mother (expectation of motherhood of Mary) of my (Elisabeth) Lord (?) should come to me ?(Elisabeth)

Nothing in Luke 1:43, identifies WHO Elisabeth herself identified as "her Lord".

How did the OP, determine, WHO Elizabeth's "Lord" is?

but it MUST be a child of Mary!

only Jesus is a child of Mary!

mother of God

want to try mother of our salvation or the perpetual virginity now?
 

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but it MUST be a child of Mary!

In context, Mary was not yet a mother.
In context, Elisabeth's comment, was an "expectation".
Still Nothing, In Luke 1:43 reveals, "WHO" Elisabeth was "referencing" as "her Lord".

WHO was Elisabeths "Lord"...BEFORE Mary came to visit Elisabeth?
 

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In context, Mary was not yet a mother.
In context, Elisabeth's comment, was an "expectation".
Still Nothing, In Luke 1:43 reveals, "WHO" Elisabeth was "referencing" as "her Lord".

WHO was Elisabeths "Lord"...BEFORE Mary came to visit Elisabeth?

of course she was
She consented to God’s proposal Lk 1:38

verse 42 shows that she is pregnant
And verse 43 would make no sense unless Mary is a mother
 

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Mary is the one who visited Elizabeth
She is the mother of the lord

don’t be silly
 

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Rev 22:16 . . I am the offspring of David

The Greek word translated "offspring" is genos (ghen'-os) which basically
refers to kin, viz: one's relatives.

Christ's kinship with David is quite a bit more specific in Rom 1:1-3 where it
says:

"Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to
the flesh"

The Greek word translated "seed" in that passage is sperma (sper'-mah)
which is a bit ambiguous because it can refer to spiritual progeny as well as
to biological progeny; for example:

Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

That seed is obviously spiritual progeny; whereas David's is biological
because it's "according to the flesh" i.e. his physical human body.

Seeing as Jesus' dad Joseph played no role in his son's conception, and his
wife was a virgin at the time, then Jesus' physical connection to David
defaults thru his mother, i.e. Mary was related to David; which places her
baby in David's tribe; the tribe of Judah. (Heb 7:14)

This fact may be somewhat insignificant to most Gentiles-- other than their
interest in Christ's connection to Abraham's promises --but Jesus' physical
connection to David is extremely important to the Jews because in order to
validate Jesus' right to rule over the land of Israel, he absolutely must be
biologically situated in the Davidic dynasty: no getting around it. (2Sam 7:8
17 and Ps 89:3-4)


FAQ: From whence did baby Jesus obtain a Y chromosome for his male
gender?


A: In the beginning, God constructed Eve's entire body with some material
taken from Adam's body, so I'd imagine it would be no more difficult for God
to construct a teensy little Y chromosome for baby Jesus with some material
taken from Mary's body.

The beauty of it is that a Y chromosome constructed with material taken
from Mary's body wouldn't be an alien substance created ex nihilo; but
would be 100% natural, and easily traceable all the way back to Eve, and
from thence to the very dust that was used to construct Adam's body.

I can't prove any of this of course, but nevertheless I sincerely believe that
what I suggest herein actually took place when the power of the Most High
overshadowed Jesus' mom per Luke 1:35; and if my suggestion is true, then
little Jesus was thoroughly a Jew from top to bottom-- biologically descended
from not only David, but also Adam, the Man that God created in the book of
Genesis.

Heb 2:17 . . He had to be made like his brethren in every way
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did Christ found a church?
Is there a new covenant?

what’s wrong with gathering verses together that speak of the same subject???
All scripture is inspired remember


Yes Jesus is building a church.
Yes there is a new covenant but has not gone into effect yet.
that speak on the same subject? Yes! but you rip verses out of context and then reinterpret them to mean Mary!
All Scripture is inspired, but not all Scripture is equally applicable.

How many time are you going to vomit all this on new threads? Do you really think anyone is convinced by your mishandling of the Word?
 

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The original sin was committed by the first man (Adam) relative to a certain
forbidden fruit. (Gen 2:8-17 and Gen 3:6)

It is commonly believed among a pretty large number of Christians that
accountability for Adam's eating the forbidden fruit is transmitted to children
by means of their parents. But the language and grammar in the epistle to
Romans indicates that everyone's participation in Adam's act took place in
real time rather than taking place in their own time.

Rom 5:12 . .Through one person sin entered the world, and through sin,
death, and thus death came to all, inasmuch as all sinned

The words "all sinned" are grammatically past tense rather than present or
future. In other words; everyone that is related, was related, and/or shall be
related to Adam took part in his act right then; whether virgin conceived or
normally conceived makes no difference because the act isn't transmitted by
one's parents, it was transmitted to everyone solely by one man working
alone and no one else. There's more.

Rom 5:19 . .Through the disobedience of one person the many were made
sinners,

The words "were made sinners" are grammatically past tense rather than
present or future. In other words; everyone that is related, was related,
and/or shall be related to Adam became sinners by his act right then;
whether virgin conceived or normally conceived makes no difference
because complicity in Adam's act isn't transmitted by one's parents, it was
transmitted to everyone solely by one man working alone, and no one else.

Ergo: Nobody is born into this world 100% sinless. All come into it with at
least one sin already on the books regardless of their age, race, gender,
and/or religious preference; which is the reason why infants and underage
children die the same as grown-ups. The poor things were condemned to die
many, many years prior to their conception through no real fault of their.
own.

However: though Adam's disobedience made his posterity sinners; it didn't
make them sinful: that's something else altogether. We're not talking about
the so-called "fallen nature" here, we're just talking about joint principals in
Adam's decision to taste the forbidden fruit.


FAQ: Wasn't Adam's sin a sin unto Hell?

A: No, it was limited to mortality (Gen 2:16-17). In other words; in order to
clear Adam's act off one's personnel file; all they have to do is pass away.
The consequences for his posterity's own personal sins is another matter.
Jesus passed away on the cross, so there went his share of the punishment
for tasting the forbidden fruit.


FAQ: If Jesus Christ was made a joint principal in Adam's slip-up, then how can
it be honestly said that Christ was a lamb without blemish or spot?


A: Adam's slip made Christ culpable right along with his fellow men, yes; but
it didn't make him sinful. In point of fact; Christ committed no personal sins
of his own to account for. (John 8:29, 2Cor 5:21, Heb 4:15, 1Pet 2:22)

There's more yet.

Rom 5:12 . .Therefore, just as through one person sin entered the world,
and through sin, death, and thus death came to all

The words "death came to all" are grammatically past tense rather than
present or future. In other words; everyone that is related, was related,
and/or shall be related to Adam was condemned to death by his act right
then; whether virgin conceived or normally conceived makes no difference.
because the death sentence isn't transmitted by one's parents, it was
transmitted to everyone solely by one man working alone, and no one else.

Now if Jesus Christ is our fellow man, then he too was affected by Adam's
act; which means of course that had Jesus not been crucified he would've
eventually died anyway just like everyone else.


FAQ: God himself decreed that a man's children are not responsible for his
mistakes (Deut 24:16, Ezek 18:20). How then was it right for God to
sentence Adam's posterity to death for something their ancestor did?


A: The laws of God do not have ex post facto jurisdiction, i.e. they aren't
retroactive. (Deut 5:2-4 & Gal 3:17)
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Yes Jesus is building a church.
Yes there is a new covenant but has not gone into effect yet.
that speak on the same subject? Yes! but you rip verses out of context and then reinterpret them to mean Mary!
All Scripture is inspired, but not all Scripture is equally applicable.

How many time are you going to vomit all this on new threads? Do you really think anyone is convinced by your mishandling of the Word?

who decides what is and what is not context?

All scripture is inspired context ain’t

new covenant not in effect really?

never heard of Pentecost?

Heb 9
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Matt 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
 

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In a nutshell: the so-called fallen nature is a preference for unobstructed,
unrestrained, self rule; i.e. deciding for one's self what determines right and
wrong and/or what determines good and evil. In that respect, the fallen
nature tends to be its own God and resists cooperating with the real God.
(Gen 3:22 and Rom 8:7-8)

The fallen nature is believed to be propagated by men. Along with that is the
belief that baby Jesus eluded the fallen nature by his virgin conception.

Oh? Then whence did Eve obtain the fallen nature?

She was constructed with material taken from Adam's body prior to the
forbidden fruit incident. Since himself tasted the fruit after his wife was
already in existence; then it was impossible for Adam to pass the fallen
nature to her by means of procreation.

In the past, I was sure that the chemistry of the forbidden fruit had
something to do with the first couple's altered moral perception; but now I
seriously doubt it because Eve was the first to eat the fruit, and when she
did, nothing happened. Eve remained just as shameless in the buff as
before. It wasn't till Adam tasted the fruit that she began to feel exposed; so
I'm pretty sure that the underlying cause is far more serious than the
chemistry of that fruit.

If Eve's fallen condition wasn't due to the fruit, nor due to Adam's parenting,
then what? Well; obviously the Serpent did it to them, a.k.a. the Devil (Rev
20:2)

He has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the
human body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke
13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to exercise his power the
moment that Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how
quickly it takes effect. Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife
both immediately set to work cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to
cover pelvic areas.

FAQ: Why wasn't the woman effected by the Serpent's power when she
tasted the forbidden fruit?

A: It was apparently God's decision that if sin and death were to come into
the world, they would come via a lone male's actions just as life and
righteousness would later be offered to the world via a lone male's actions.
(Rom 5:12-21)

FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people. . . in the womb or out of
the womb?

A: Adam and his wife demonstrate that it can be done on adults, but I'm
guessing that for most of us it's in the womb; and if not in the womb, then
certainly no later than our birth. (Ps 51:5 & 58:3)

As for baby Jesus, it's very likely that the Devil was simply unable to
overcome the eternal life abiding within him.

John 5:26 . . As the Father has life in himself, so He has granted the Son
to have life in himself.

1John 5:11 . . God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in His son.

1John 4:4 . .The one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the
world.
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