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There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter matt 16:18 Jn 16:13
And one thing we know for sure, that one church most certainly is not the Catholic Church as currently organized.
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There is only one true church founded by Christ on Peter matt 16:18 Jn 16:13
you must accept the “tradition of men” who under king James deleted whole books and many chapters from scripture negating the word of God
Lk 1:28 Hail Mary full of grace! Is scripture!
The Eleven and Paul are the only apostles. All of those who follow Jesus are saints.Mary is the mother of God!
Lk 1:43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Lk 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
Lk 1: 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
so the Lord is the Lord God almighty!
Proving the divinity of Jesus Christ!
Praise of Mary and the saints redounds to the glory of God and Christ, co Mary and the saints are what God made them, it is His handiwork (Lk 1:49 Lk 1:28) and the graces they have come from the merits of Christ’s passion and death
Likewise an Attack on Mary and the saints, or the authority of the apostles or the church or rejection of such doctrines is and attack on God and on Christ!
Acts 9:4 Eph 5:32
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Mind if I chime in?
The grammatical tense of the verb "has" in the verse below is present
tense, indicating the Jesus' believing followers all possess eternal life now, in
this life, before they pass on.
• John 5:24 . . I tell you the truth: whoever hears my word, and believes him
who sent me, has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed
over from death to life.
According to Jesus, people currently lacking eternal life are lacking it
because they don't listen to his word, nor believe his Father, ergo: they are
currently condemned, dead, and in grave danger of the sum of all fears.
I grew up a Catholic boy and received enough indoctrination in catechism to
complete First Holy Communion and Confirmation. I was told that eternal life
is something people get after they die rather than getting it in this life; the
meanwhile there's no telling whether they'll end up in Heaven or in Hell.
When I grew older, and ran across passages like John 5:24 in the Bible; I
felt betrayed by the Church. However, the Church's incompetence didn't
make me angry or indignant. In point of fact I was very relieved to discover
that what it had taught me was wrong.
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the church wrote the New Testament
Matt 17:24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
It is Jesus Christ who identifies peter with himself!
Jesus Christ gives the keys of the kingdom to peter matt 16:18-19 making him prime minister applying Isa 22:21-22 to peter
It’s Christ who does this
There is only one possibility Jn 10:16And one thing we know for sure, that one church most certainly is not the Catholic Church as currently organized.
And one thing we know for sure, that one church most certainly is not the Catholic Church as currently organized.
You are an enthusiastic kool-aid drinker. I'll give you that!
Just out of curiosity, what is the alternative to accepting “tradition of men” who compiled the books of the Bible, calling it the Word of God?
The apostolic tradition with the authority of Christ bound on earth bound in heaven matt 16:28 & 18:18
Your foundation is quick sand. Moving from one logical fallacy after another, you cannot even admit the Popes of your denomination lack authority for they do not demonstrate the miraculous powers of the Apostles who walked with Christ. In other words, even demonstrable facts are impervious to your indoctrination.
Not saints but called to be saintsThe Eleven and Paul are the only apostles. All of those who follow Jesus are saints.
Untrue. The Eastern Orthodox Church compiled the letters and Gospels of those who walked with Christ. Nearly 8 centuries later, your church was formed.
No such thing as a canonized saint. Luke 18:14.Not saints but called to be saints
Saints in general are not the same as canonized saint
Mathias not an apostle?
Making a doctrine out of this passage is foolishness. they probably approached Peter simply because he was from Capernaum and they knew him. YOu are grasping at straws!
again grasping at straws. Taking a simple statement about paying taxes and implying it shows Peter as the de facto pope. You are grasping at pieces of straw now!
So Peter becomes Eliajkim? Show me where the key to thte house of David has become the keys of the kingdom.
You are now grasping at atomic size pieces of straw!
No such thing as a canonized saint. Luke 18:14.
Perhaps you didn't know but an apostle is personally sent by Jesus Christ to establish the foundation of his teaching. 1 Corinthians 3:10-11
The foundation of his teaching is preserved in the New Testament.
the quote orthodox did not exist until they created a schism in 1050
the one true church Jn 10:16 was founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18 & 18:18
They are done now. The foundation has been laid. Jesus now sends prophets, evangelists, teachers and preachers to build on that foundation.if Christ has authority to send apostles then the apostles have the same authority Jn 20:21-23 same mission ministry power and authority as Christ
Those who are in Christ by faith and baptism
Mk 16:16 Acts 8:36-38
The trinity and the divinity of Christ are Christian doctrines necessary to be Christian and have the possibility of salvation
To deny them is to deny Christ and the faith of Christians
Thanks for your definition Faith. The actual definition is one who follows Jesus, obeying his teachings. Christians are assigned teaching others all the things he commanded. You are correct that in following Jesus' example, his followers would at some point in their faith get baptized. However, you are not correct that his actual followers would worship a triune god. True Christians worship and serve the God that Jesus bore testimony about. Jesus while under temptation clearly said this: (Matthew 4:10) . . .it is written: ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’”
So by Jesus' words, his followers worship and serve Jehovah exclusively. True, we serve everyone, the actual meaning of the word minister, and it is part of our sacred service, but we do this because we love Jehovah 1 Jn 5:3
Knowing Jehovah and obeying the gospel, or in other words Christian laws given through God's word the Bible is a requirement for a person to be a true Christian sir.
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Mind if I chime in?
The grammatical tense of the verb "has" in the verse below is present
tense, indicating the Jesus' believing followers all possess eternal life now, in
this life, before they pass on.
• John 5:24 . . I tell you the truth: whoever hears my word, and believes him
who sent me, has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed
over from death to life.
According to Jesus, people currently lacking eternal life are lacking it
because they don't listen to his word, nor believe his Father, ergo: they are
currently condemned, dead, and in grave danger of the sum of all fears.
I grew up a Catholic boy and received enough indoctrination in catechism to
complete First Holy Communion and Confirmation. I was told that eternal life
is something people get after they die rather than getting it in this life; the
meanwhile there's no telling whether they'll end up in Heaven or in Hell.
When I grew older, and ran across passages like John 5:24 in the Bible; I
felt betrayed by the Church. However, the Church's incompetence didn't
make me angry or indignant. In point of fact I was very relieved to discover
that what it had taught me was wrong.
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It is amazing that you post the church against the New Testament or visa
versa