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Behold, do you agree that not all church goers, even for years, are actually born again?

Not all "church goers" and not all "forum members" and not alll "commentary writers", and not all "youtube teachers"., are Christians.

Fake Christians are the Devil's best ministers.
For example...on a forum they post verses and verses and more verses, just like a Real Christian.

Christians have to have a time ......a day, a moment, in their past when they trusted in Christ to be forgiven.
That is their 2nd Birth day, and without that, there is no Salvation., and of course, being water baptized is no proof of Salvation.
Hell is filled with water baptized religious people, who were church goers, and many were genuinely good people.

Its sad to know that good people....honest people.......end up in Hell.....yet they do.

They were not born again, and Jesus said... "You MUST be, born again" and that is not water baptism.
 

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Not all "church goers" and not all "forum members" and not alll "commentary writers", and not all "youtube teachers"., are Christians.

Fake Christians are the Devil's best ministers.
For example...on a forum they post verses and verses and more verses, just like a Real Christian.

Christians have to have a time ......a day, a moment, in their past when they trusted in Christ to be forgiven.
That is their 2nd Birth day, and without that, there is no Salvation., and of course, being water baptized is no proof of Salvation.
Hell is filled with water baptized religious people, who were church goers, and many were genuinely good people.

Its sad to know that good people....honest people.......end up in Hell.....yet they do.

They were not born again, and Jesus said... "You MUST be, born again" and that is not water baptism.
I agree. The other day I was listening to a preacher who teaches many falsehoods, yet when he died for a few minutes he told how happy he was wherever that was. And then another person on his radio program told that when his JW mother died, for a few seconds she looked like she was terrified. I've heard of others who were able to blurt out "I made it."

It got me to wondering how much truth we must know, or how much garbage we can teach and still go to heaven.
 

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I agree. The other day I was listening to a preacher who teaches many falsehoods, yet when he died for a few minutes he told how happy he was wherever that was.

ONe of the ways that fakirs make money, is to write a book that talks about their "i went to heaven" experience.

Christians, tend to look for the supernatrual....so, a way to milk them of their money is to write a book about the "supernatural".
Ive read some of this stuff......such as by John Lake, or Smith Wigglesworth, or Aimee Semple McPhershon, or Kathryn Kuhlman.
And...One of the issues with their ministries, is.......they didnt seem to realize that all this "Acts" stuff they are chasing........
The Epislte is the "ACTS of the Apostles'.......not the acts of the Christians.......and the denominations that produced them.. also have not realized this.....yet.
So, when you have millions of Christians who are trying to be the "Acts of the Apostles" then you have a confused mess indeed.

So, if a person is going to chase the "mystlcal"....then they need to find someone who can teach it......and not chase the "Acts of the Apostles" Fakirs....They need to read the teaching of people who were genuinely touched by God, in an unusal way, and received from Him in an unusal way.
They might even have some good fortune and run across one of those on a "christian" forum.
See, Lots of "Saints" have had this and this is related to real spirituality ... vs the cut and dried "healing ministry" type of Show Business for the suckers that is so very common, and is such a carnally cheap ministry that brings in the BIG dollars.

A "Health and Wealth" ministry, is going to make someone rich., and that is why there are so very many of them, everywhere.

So, instead.......read Hildegard of Bingen, or St. Francis, or even someone like St. Bernadette, or Jeanny Guyon, as their stories and teachings are going show you supernatural experiences with God that are Legit.
And no, im not a Catholic., and they were........so, while their Salvation theology often isn't good, they were still touched by God, uniquely.

It got me to wondering how much truth we must know, or how much garbage we can teach and still go to heaven.

WE go to heaven because we are born again.
We are in the Light.
We are "not under the law, but under Grace"
We are already "in Christ"...."one with God"......"Seated in heavenly places."""

All of this is has happened the very instant we are born again., the day we were saved.
So, the best way to understand this.....is, regarding our Salvation, = we "Start finished"...>>"complete in Him".

And now being THAT......we begin our Chritianity ........and the Devil is going to come asap,= with a Cult theology and try to get you to spend the rest of your life in that deception.......while you are a Christian.
He can't stop you from going to Heaven, but he can ruin your faith with false doctrine that ruins your ability to get truth from God.
The person can still do good works, but theologically they are "faith broken", and that stops revelation knowledge.
This is when they turn to commentaries and get farther in to the dark.
Forums are filled with people who really dont read or study a bible, and their entire Theology is from some COMMENTARY series, or a few, as these have become their "bible'.

This happens to most., because theu never did what Hebrews 13:9 says you must do with your "heart", or a "doctrne of devils" or a few, will get you.

The Devil has plenty of those available to capture a Christian,.

MaryCult
Calvinism
Preterism
Mormon
JW
The "no Hellers".
The "errors in the bible club"
Universalism.
Mary Baker Eddy
"The Greek text club".

and many more, just waiting to trap the mind of a Christian, for life.
 
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or St. Francis, or even someone like St. Bernadette
I love St. Francis, but St. Bernadette was talking to a demon posing as the Virgin Mary.

The Devil has plenty of those available to capture a Christian,.

MaryCult
Calvinism
Preterism
Mormon
JW
The "no Hellers".
The "errors in the bible club"
Universalism.
Mary Baker Eddy
"The Greek text club".

and many more, just waiting to trap the mind of a Christian, for life.
The person I was talking about who died on the table during a heart attack isn't writing a book. He wasn't there long enough, but it seemed he did go there and not the other place for those few minutes (or seconds, I'm not sure which anymore). It just fascinates me that he can still go to heaven and teach some of the garbage he teaches.
 

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I love St. Francis, but St. Bernadette was talking to a demon posing as the Virgin Mary.

Actually she never said she was talking to the Virgin Mary.

Her writings a biography is very interesting as she was so devout.

What happened was........after she died, the MaryCult rewrote that part.......and said it was the Virgin Mary.
This is what they always do.
If they can't have Mary and Peter and "church fathers"""" they have no "church".....They have nothing......and in fact they do have nothing.
But they know how to sell that nothing.


It just fascinates me that he can still go to heaven and teach some of the garbage he teaches.

If he's born again then He is going to heaven.
Probably sooner then he expected.

One of the things to consider, is......... on the day a person is born again, God knew everything they would do later.........and He saved them anyway.
Some Christians are horrible.
 

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So what was it she actually saw. I don't have the book.

A Heavenly being....is what she stated.

"A beautiful Lady"....

Never did Bernadette claim she was the "Virgin Mary".
She would contradict people who implied it.
Its the MaryCult that changed Her story after Bernadetta died.

Here is something interesting....
Bernadetta was told that the "hidden Spring" was going to cause "the world to come" to The Grotta in France.
And the world has come for 150 yrs.
Also, there are mulitplied thousands of documented healings, for 150 yrs... regarding that Spring.

Now like i told you, in not a Catholic.... Im an anti-Marian Theology person.
I hate the MaryCult system of Theology, because its demonic.
However, ive read a lot, including the bio's of these "Saints".. and their eyewitness......and that is one thing that is presuasive,........but its not the main thing.
See, the main thing is........their devount holy lifestyle.......was it lived all the way to the end. ???????????
Did they die with the same burning Faith, the same incredible passion for Jesus...the same continual yeildedness........till death.
Also, what was their Ministry.....what was their core purpose..? /????????????????
Was it to build a huge Church , so that people could come and see THEM?.... like (Aimee Semple McPherson)?
Or was their devotion, a hidden Gem, a "oneness with God"... that didnt need the spotlight to shine on them, as they were the SHINE...they were the Vessel., they were the Anointed.
 

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A Heavenly being....is what she stated.

"A beautiful Lady"....

Never did Bernadette claim she was the "Virgin Mary".
She would contradict people who implied it.
Its the MaryCult that changed Her story after Bernadetta died.

Here is something interesting....
Bernadetta was told that the "hidden Spring" was going to cause "the world to come" to The Grotta in France.
And the world has come for 150 yrs.
Also, there are mulitplied thousands of documented healings, for 150 yrs... regarding that Spring.

Now like i told you, in not a Catholic.... Im an anti-Marian Theology person.
I hate the MaryCult system of Theology, because its demonic.
However, ive read a lot, including the bio's of these "Saints".. and their eyewitness......and that is one thing that is presuasive,........but its not the main thing.
See, the main thing is........their devount holy lifestyle.......was it lived all the way to the end. ???????????
Did they die with the same burning Faith, the same incredible passion for Jesus...the same continual yeildedness........till death.
Also, what was their Ministry.....what was their core purpose..? /????????????????
Was it to build a huge Church , so that people could come and see THEM?.... like (Aimee Semple McPherson)?
Or was their devotion, a hidden Gem, a "oneness with God"... that didnt need the spotlight to shine on them, as they were the SHINE...they were the Vessel., they were the Anointed.
I'm still not convinced. What "lady" do you know of who is supernatural? What was her message? The Father and the Son are both male.
 

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I'm still not convinced. What "lady" do you know of who is supernatural? What was her message?

Different messages.

I dont know of anyone who is supernatural on earth., however everyone who is dead and born again is now become supernatural.

Bernadette never tried to explain any of this.
In fact, she didnt want any of the notoriety when it was happening, and tried to hide from it the rest of her life, in St. Gildard Convent.
She only want to live our her life there in prayer and meditation and service for Christ, and did.
 

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Different messages.

I dont know of anyone who is supernatural on earth., however everyone who is dead and born again is now become supernatural.

Bernadette never tried to explain any of this.
In fact, she didnt want any of the notoriety when it was happening, and tried to hide from it the rest of her life, in St. Gildard Convent.
She only want to live our her life there in prayer and meditation and service for Christ, and did.
Years ago when I was writing my first book and doing research, I came across a website of all the apparitions of Mary and what she spoke. One of her sayings was to "worship her." From that I don't accept any beautiful lady apparitions as anything but demonic.
 

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Years ago when I was writing my first book and doing research, I came across a website of all the apparitions of Mary and what she spoke. One of her sayings was to "worship her." From that I don't accept any beautiful lady apparitions as anything but demonic.

Bernadette never said that the "beautiful lady" was Mary.

But i understand how you feel.

Bernadette was always very careful to make the distinciton between Jesus as Savior and Lord and his Mother.
But being a Catholic, she was taught to esteem Mary too much.
 

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Bernadette never said that the "beautiful lady" was Mary.

But i understand how you feel.

Bernadette was always very careful to make the distinciton between Jesus as Savior and Lord and his Mother.
But being a Catholic, she was taught to esteem Mary too much.
Why do you accept that a lady spoke to Bernadette and it wasn't a demon?

I accept that Jesus appears to Muslims and they become born again Christians. I haven't heard anything about Jesus appearing to Hindus or Buddhists, or any of the thousand other religions with false gods. I may be wrong, He may have, but if not I guess it is because of the Dome on the Rock.
 
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Why do you accept that a lady spoke to Bernadette and it wasn't a demon?

Its because i studied her entire life, till the end of it.

And as i said... im not a supporter of the MaryCult.......but, i do appreciate people who of any Faith.......such as Catholic, ....have lived out their life, according to a devout faith in Jesus.

Hidegard of Bingen.....is another one who is very interesting and who was a very prolific teacher.

What i do is just avoid the MaryCult teachings, and examine the rest of it, regarding these Saints.

I accept that Jesus appears to Muslims and they become born again Christians.

Lots of reports of Musilms having this encounter, for a while now.
 
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Its because i studied her entire life, till the end of it.

And as i said... im not a supporter of the MaryCult.......but, i do appreciate people who of any Faith.......such as Catholic, ....have lived out their life, according to a devout faith in Jesus.

Hidegard of Bingen.....is another one who is very interesting and who was a very prolific teacher.

What i do is just avoid the MaryCult teachings, and examine the rest of it, regarding these Saints.



Lots of reports of Musilms having this encounter, for a while now.
In Revelation 2, the letter to the church of Thyatira, do you think that reference to Jezebel is the Mary cult? I do.
 

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The Lord is soon to come for His BRIDE...., so, we'll find all this out.
Do you know how the Marycults began don't you? It was two emperors after Constantine legalized Christianity who made paganism illegal and Christianity became the state religion. So Roman goddesses and child gods the pagans were used to they simply Christianized. Like Venus and Cupid became Mary and Jesus. These pagan goddesses and their child stemmed back to 400 years after the flood when Semiramis became pregnant after the death of Nimrod and she claimed Tammuz, her son, was Nimrod reincarnated. This is also the beginning of that false belief that is still believed today. :eek:
 

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Do you know how the Marycults began don't you? It was two emperors after Constantine legalized Christianity who made paganism illegal and Christianity became the state religion. So Roman goddesses and child gods the pagans were used to they simply Christianized. Like Venus and Cupid became Mary and Jesus. These pagan goddesses and their child stemmed back to 400 years after the flood when Semiramis became pregnant after the death of Nimrod and she claimed Tammuz, her son, was Nimrod reincarnated. This is also the beginning of that false belief that is still believed today. :eek:

Yes.

Initially the MaryCult was simply a remodel of "Goddess Diana worship".

Its the Pagan Goddass Diana who is the original "Perpetual virgin" and "Queen of Heaven".

The MaryCult just substitued Mary for Diana, and in came the Dark ages, and all the rest of their over 1500 yrs bible rejecing heresy and mass murder.
 

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Yes.

Initially the MaryCult was simply a remodel of "Goddess Diana worship".

Its the Pagan Goddass Diana who is the original "Perpetual virgin" and "Queen of Heaven".

The MaryCult just substitued Mary for Diana, and in came the Dark ages, and all the rest of their over 1500 yrs bible rejecing heresy and mass murder.
The "Queen of Heaven" title is in the Old Testament. Ashtoreth and Tammuz were the goddess and son. Jezebel the wife of Ahab was a high priestess of that pagan religion. Today, the "queen of heaven" is Mary
 

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The "Queen of Heaven" title is in the Old Testament. Ashtoreth and Tammuz were the goddess and son. Jezebel the wife of Ahab was a high priestess of that pagan religion. Today, the "queen of heaven" is Mary
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""""""Pope Pius closed a year-long Marian year in October of 1954 with the encyclical Ad Caeli Reginam recognizing the Queenship of Mary.
The encyclical was unique too because it was the first time a pope had spoken on Mary's role in sharing in the work of Redemption.
He wrote, "The most Blessed Virgin Mary is to be called Queen not only because of her Divine Motherhood, but also because she, by the will of God, had an outstanding part in the work of our eternal salvation."
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